Emily Cappello and Haley Muraleedharan
How To Make It With Emily & Haley
Tired of the social media and award show ‘highlight reels’ of success in entertainment, How To Make It hosts and perpetually exhausted yet bright-eyed industry veterans Emily and Haley were determined to bring a new point of view to the table. Aided each episode by a different celebrity guest who the ladies consider to have ‘made it,’ we delve into all the WTF moments it takes to become a success in entertainment, and what ‘making it’ even means. How To Make It aims to encourage and inspire struggling artists to continue in the pursuit of their creative dreams by not interviewing the celebri...
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Emily Cappello and Haley Muraleedharan
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Jun 9, 2026
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Episodes
Michael Chernus: 'The I I Am & The Me Me Be' 12.05.2025 59:27
Actor Michael Chernus joins Emily & Haley to discuss what he learned from performing the Severance audiobook, his Rom-Com meet-cute with his wife, and his upcoming true crime series. Emily attempts to start several businesses with Michael, Haley reveals how you can tell when you're working with a theater actor, and we dig into 'Orange is the New Black,' 'Patriot,' and 'Spiderman.' So put on yo...
Matthew Broussard: 'Believe in Yourself, Dummy' 05.05.2025 53:44
Comedian Matthew Brousard joins Emily & Haley to discuss his move from finance to stand-up comedy, his passion for teaching mathematics, and the pointlessness of impostor syndrome. Emily details her run-in with Jojo Siwa, Haley doesn't understand why everyone fantasizes about England, and we give our honest opinions on major US cities. So put on your Power Ranger suit, get in a pointless queue...
Ólafur Darri Ólafsson: 'I'm Never Having Salad Again' 21.04.2025 1:02:24
Actor Ólafur 'Darri' Ólafsson joins Emily & Haley to discuss being star-struck on the set of 'Severance,' his role in the 'Eurovision Song Contest,' and is the first guest to wonder how Emily & Haley know each other. Emily can't help but talk about 'The Office,' Haley wonders if Darri's audiobook career will take him anywhere saucy, and we find out if Iceland is really as cold as it sounds...
Peppermint: 'Black Socks, Spiderwebs, and Candy Canes' 07.04.2025 54:38
Actress, singer, and drag royalty Peppermint joins Emily & Haley to discuss the glory days of MySpace, why you should never accept socks from strangers, and what holiday ornaments have to do with her eventual career as a performer. Emily and Peppermint bond over their love of miniatures, Haley learns about professional cheerleaders, and Peppermint teaches us the horrors of getting ready near a...
Gianmarco Soresi: 'Failing Into Being Okay (For Now)' 24.03.2025 46:07
Stand-up comedian and child of divorce Gianmarco Soresi joins Emily and Haley to discuss his fear of narrow sidewalks, mastering the art of the handstand, and when it is appropriate to take a bow. Emily uses this opportunity to mention Zach Woods for the millionth time; Haley attempts to lure Gianmarco back into playwriting, and we discuss all of Gianmarco's failures. So turn on the A/C, stage a m...
Sydney Cole Alexander: 'It’s A Marathon, Not A Sprint (Just Keep Swimming)' 04.03.2025 38:07
Actress Sydney Cole Alexander joins Emily and Haley to discuss how a Crest commercial influenced her role on Apple TV's 'Severance,' her first film premiere (which Emily also attended), and how switching seats with Taylor Swift got her through the pandemic. Emily can't believe this interview is happening, Haley bonds with Sydney over barmaiding, and the board concludes the call. So put on your too...
Brandon Gardner: 'Maybe There's Still Hope?' 27.01.2025 49:29
Producer and writer Brandon Gardner joins Emily and Haley to discuss his Peacock series ‘In The Know,’ what lie killed his dreams to be an architect, and his creative partnership with Zach Woods. Emily knows what Brandon did 463 weeks ago, Haley praises Brandon’s beer pong skills, Brandon reveals the secret to improv, and we fail to understand Nicole Kidman's wigs. So put your pants back on, grab...
Colt Prattes: 'Finally "Making It"' 30.12.2024 44:48
Actor and dancer Colt Prattes joins Emily and Haley to discuss ‘Aladdin’ on Broadway, touring with P!nk, and his new Netflix movie, ‘The Merry Gentlemen.’ Emily admires Nick Jonas’s butt, Haley teaches menacing sign language, and Colt inspires a new segment that involves Emily’s dad. So enter the White Room, dance like Daniel Radcliffe, and sign a playbill with a cigarette while you listen to Chap...
Brooke Lena Johnson: 'Keep On Keepin' On (I Hope You Like Me, Please Don't Laugh)' 16.12.2024 40:21
Actress Brooke Lena Johnson joins Emily and Haley to discuss her role in Prime's 'Cruel Intentions,' how she became a part of a puppeteering disaster, and her career as a professional figure skater. Meanwhile, Haley can't figure out if Brooke is British, Emily suspects her to be a Disney princess, and Brooke helps us achieve what should be studied as the most seamless question segues in podcast hi...
Margaret Cho: 'The Ever-Evolving Adventure' 23.09.2024 42:51
Stand-up comedy royalty Margaret Cho joins Emily and Haley to discuss her reason for starting her comedy career, her incredible film 'All That We Love,' and her upcoming residency at Joe's Pub in New York City. Emily cheers as Margaret discusses her favorite drag queens, Haley digs up an unbelievable incident from Margaret's past, and we are treated to insight into what Margaret looks forward to i...
Sam Palladio: 'Who Knew A Country Music Star Could be Cornish?' 09.09.2024 47:03
Actor and musician Sam Palladio sits down with Emily to discuss a Metallica t-shirt deciding his fate, what it's like being BFFs with Charles Esten, and his time on the hit series 'Nashville.' Emily gets Sam to re-route his UK tour to the US for her personal benefit, Sam contemplates a career switch to marine-themed children's music, and neither Emily nor Sam can remember where his character from...
John Magaro: 'Finally, Some Stability...At Least For Now #YOLO2024' 19.08.2024 42:04
Actor John Magaro joins the BFFs as they tackle the worst things about being an actor, the Swedish Viking Museum, and their love of Britt Lower. Emily tells the story of how she and John met, Haley and John fail to uncover the secret to parenting, and John declines Emily's invitation to be an honorary New Jersey-an. So put on your trench coat, attend the Tribeca Film Festival, and let’s talk about...
Sam Kieffer: 'Have Gratitude, Stupid.' 22.07.2024 1:04:16
'Enemy in Paris' podcast host Sam Kieffer joins the BFFs to discuss his fear of teenagers, confusing everyone at Comic Con, and what it's like to be so bad at an instrument that your instructor refuses to teach you. Emily reveals how to win David Hasselhoff's affection, Haley creates an incredible new phrase to live by, and everyone confesses their love for one another. So grab your sweat spray, b...
Mini Ep(ilogue): Sona Movsesian 01.07.2024 20:19
In this hilarious mini-episode, Emily & Haley dive into their conversation with 'Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend' co-host and New York Times Best-Selling author Sona Movsesian. The ladies discuss time-traveling advice, Haley invents a new kind of horror with 'The Very Hungry Human Caterpillar,' and Emily reveals an incident that proves her love of 'RuPaul's Drag Race' has officially taken over 51...
Steve Bugeja: 'Are You Still Trying to Be Funny?' 21.06.2024 47:43
Comedian Steve Bugeja joins the ladies to discuss crafting the perfect stand-up routine, the 'ick' factor, and his dream of being Minister of Transport. Later, Emily reveals a website she recently discovered called YouTube, Steve explains what Nandos is, and Haley delights in the interpersonal conflict that ensues. Grab your enthusiasm for trains, order a side of vegetables, and join us for Chapte...
Brandon Soo Hoo: 'Guardian of the Gabriels' 20.05.2024 40:32
Actor, martial artist, and content creator Brandon Soo Hoo joins the BFFs to discuss the importance of food, being the James Cameron of rocks, and pivoting to social media during the pandemic. Later, we discuss karate chopping intrusive thoughts, dancing sexily to 'Pony,' and Brandon's role in the animated feature film 'The Tiger's Apprentice.' Did Emily stalk Brandon in a fake mustache? Will Bran...
Mika Abdalla: 'I'm Scared, Please Hire Me.' 16.04.2024 42:18
Actress Mika Abdalla tees off with Emily & Haley this episode to discuss her ever-developing love of golf, completing the North Texas right of passage of appearing on Barney & Friends, and her age-inappropriate obsession with 'Titanic' as a young child. Emily & Haley briefly attempt to turn 'How to Make It' into a therapy podcast, whilst Mika tells us a cautionary tale about how squat...
Donnie Wahlberg: 'It's All Gonna Be Okay' 01.04.2024 47:58
Actor and singer Donnie Wahlberg joins Emily & Haley to discuss getting a curtain call while performing in a prison, having his teeth smashed in with a hockey stick, and his dream to explore the country in a tour bus. We chat about Donnie's 'The Masked Singer' cameo, his role as Lieutenant Liption in HBO's 'Band of Brothers,' and his willingness to transform into a merman for an acting role sh...
Mini Ep(ilogue): Ryan George 25.03.2024 16:23
In our first "Epilogue" mini-episode, we revisit our conversation with content creator and YouTube whisperer Ryan George . Ryan answers fan questions about how to get a girlfriend, whether he likes nostril pictures, his endless inventory of fake mustaches, and more. Emily tells the story of the time she stole a traffic cone from the 'Conan' set, and Haley has a few words with her cat, Lando, as he...
Kate Flannery: 'Don't Underestimate This Cockroach.' 15.03.2024 46:39
Actress and singer Kate Flannery joins the BFFs to discuss who the REAL Jim and Pam are, whether or not she can tell if things are made of cake, and why she is contractually obligated to spend every Holiday season with Jane Lynch. We discuss tap dancing lessons, ‘Saturday Night Live,’ and getting hit by cars. Most importantly, don’t give up, don’t give up, don’t give up, don’t give up, don’t give...
Andrew Mensah 'Don't Blow it 'Cos You Blew It (If We're Here, We're Here)' 26.02.2024 39:41
Comedian and television host Andrew Mensah sits down with the lasses to discuss dating apps, performing with Ricky Gervais, bungee jumping, and what "football" (that's "soccer" to our U.S. audience) means to him. We dive into the meaninglessness of eating at The Soho House, Emily gets very confused about sports, and Andrew reveals if rubbing your tummy three times actually brings good luck. Follow...
Tim Downie: 'Please Tell Me the Catering's Good' 29.01.2024 1:12:42
Actor Tim Downie joins the BFFs to discuss jumping into a sea of frozen cow shit, caroling with underpants on his head, and what he’d sound like throwing a tantrum on “The Great British Bake Off.” The ladies are also treated to a discussion on the importance of penicillin, Emily gives her controversial opinion on “Paddington” CGI, and Tim reveals what the true 4th ring of hell really is. Grab an M...
Krys Marshall: 'Here Lies Krys. Done Making Fun.' 08.01.2024 45:59
In Chapter 4 of the "How To Make It" world, actress Krys Marshall serves us a first by giving us a chapter title that doubles as a tombstone etching. The super-talented Krys sits down with Emily & Haley to discuss facing anxiety, writing poetry, being a new mom, and THAT scene in Season 4 of Apple TV’s “For All Mankind.” Krys also teaches Haley a lesson in American psychology and delights Emil...
Sona Movsesian: 'That’s…Good Enough.' 18.12.2023 1:01:35
In Chapter 3 of the "How To Make It" guide, Emily & Haley sit down with New York Times Best Selling Author and Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend co-host Sona Movsesian, a.k.a. "The World's Worst Assistant." Sona joins the besties to discuss the ingenious structure of the Human Centipede, her brushes with The New Kids on the Block, and what it takes to be a National Speech Champion. Emily blows Sona...
Ryan George: 'Making It is Making It: It's Never 'Soup-er' Easy: Colon' 20.11.2023 45:39
In Chapter 2 of 'How to Make It,' Ryan George chats with Emily Cappello and Haley Muraleedharan about playing every character in over 600 videos, the day he received an aggressive cease and desist letter from a children's TV series, and whether Haley forcing her kids to eat spicy pumpkin soup is bad parenting. Later, Emily & Haley reveal some of the “sh*ttiest” situations they experienced on s...
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