Philip Darke & Paul Jobson
How Soccer Explains Leadership Podcast
Hosts Paul Jobson and Phil Darke have decades of experience as leaders, husbands, fathers, soccer coaches, players, and referees. In this podcast, Paul and Phil will have conversations with guests from the worlds of leadership and soccer about how we can flourish by examining life and leadership through the lens of the "beautiful game."
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Philip Darke & Paul Jobson
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Gratitude vs. Entitlement with Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE International and Former Messiah College Footballer 24.08.2023 1:06:19
In Episode 126, Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE International and former Messiah College footballer, talks with Paul and Phil about his path from Messiah College to alleviating poverty with Hope International, how he built in accountability to ensure that he puts his family first, why it is so important to be grateful for everything and entitled to nothing, some of the great lessons he learned...
Fail Early and Fail Often with Jonathan Van Horn, Athletes in Action Executive Director of Pro Soccer 10.08.2023 1:11:59
In Episode 125, Jonathan Van Horn, Executive Director of Pro Soccer for Athletes in Action and former Ohio Wesleyan University footballer, talks with Paul and Phil about his multi-sport playing career and how it affected his thoughts on early specialization, what drives him, his book, Shift , and how he is using it to help athletes in their lives after sport, how he is using soccer in his ministr...
HSEL Season 9 Halftime Show 27.07.2023 43:05
In Episode 124, Paul and Phil discuss their favorite moments and leadership nuggets from our incredible guests in the first half of Season 9 (Graham Daniels, Margueritte Aozasa, Josh Glover, and Skip Gilbert), a glimpse into the great work that Paul and Warrior Way did with different communities in Guatemala earlier this month, some great books that Paul and Phil have read recently, and other topi...
Learning and Leading from the Back with Skip Gilbert, CEO of US Youth Soccer and Former NASL Goalkeeper 13.07.2023 1:12:01
In Episode 123, Skip Gilbert, CEO of US Youth Soccer, former goalkeeper with the Tampa Bay Rowdies, and two-time NCAA Division 1 All-American, talks with Paul and Phil about his windy road to leading US Youth Soccer, his thoughts on the highs and lows of the current state of soccer in the US, what he learned from his leadership positions in USA Swimming, USA Triathlon and USA Tennis, and how they...
Peace, Purpose, and Power with Josh Glover, California Baptist University Men's Soccer Coach 29.06.2023 1:10:34
In Episode 122, Josh Glover, Cal Baptist University Assistant Coach, former player with Chicago Eagles and OC Seahorses, and former coach at Biola University and Westcliff University, talks with Paul and Phil about what he learned from his professional footballing father about life and leadership, how he used football to build relationships in China and other cross-cultural situations, how he has...
Transparency, Trust, and Conflict Prevention with Margueritte Aozasa, UCLA Women's Soccer Head Coach 15.06.2023 1:08:49
In Episode 121, Margueritte Aozasa, UCLA Women's Soccer Head Coach, former Stanford Women's Soccer Assistant Coach, and former Santa Clara University Defender/Midfielder, talks with Paul and Phil about her incredible first season at UCLA, during which she became the first coach to win a National Championship in her first year as a head coach, what mission and personal "why" drives her to do what s...
Achieved vs. Received Identity with Graham Daniels, Director of Cambridge United and Christians in Sport 01.06.2023 1:08:52
In Episode 120, Graham Daniels, Ph. D., Director of Cambridge United, Director of Christians in Sport, and former player for Cambridge United and Cardiff City, talks with Paul and Phil about the "Pray, Play, Say" discipleship/leadership method, his personal why, his incredible testimony of how he came to his faith in Jesus Christ and how one pivotal moment changed the course of his life forever, t...
HSEL Season 8 Post-Match Show 18.05.2023 52:12
In Episode 119, Paul and Phil discuss their favorite moments and leadership nuggets from our great guests in the second half of Season 8, a sneak preview into Season 9, a glimpse into what the summer is bringing to the Darke and Jobson households, and other topics that hopefully will help you be better in every area of your life. We are certain you will learn something and be challenged by this co...
Mindset Hacks with Andrew Simpson, Mindset & Performance Coach and Author 04.05.2023 1:06:16
In Episode 118, Andrew Simpson, Mindset Coach, Author of Athlete! I'm Talking to You: 7 Mindset Hacks to Dominate in Sports and Life and The Youth Truth: Coaching & Parenting in Today's Crazy Youth Sports World , and Founder of Player's Fitness & Performance ("PFP"), talks with Paul and Phil about some mindset hacks that can help us develop and rebuild, if necessary, a healthy mindset in ourselves...
The Power of Futsal and Indoor Soccer with Keith Tozer, Commissioner of the Major Arena Soccer League and Hall of Fame Player/Coach 20.04.2023 1:06:26
In Episode 117, Keith Tozer, Commissioner of the Major Arena Soccer League, Coach of the US Futsal National Team, MISL coach and player in five decades, the first-ever pick in the MISL Draft, and a Hall of Famer in multiple hall of fames, talks with Paul and Phil about what he has learned over the course of his five-decade long career playing and coaching indoor and outdoor soccer and futsal, why...
Leading by Listening with Amanda Vandervoort, USL Super League President 06.04.2023 1:02:33
In Episode 116, Amanda Vandervoort, President of the USL Super League, former Chief Women's Football Officer at FIFPRO, MLS executive, USC President, FIFA Consultant, NYU Women's Soccer Head Coach, and goalkeeper and captain for University of Wyoming, talks with Phil and Paul about the life and leadership lessons she learned over the course of her playing and coaching career, and executive roles i...
What Drives Winners with Becky Burleigh, Co-Founder of What Drives Winning and Former University of Florida Women's Soccer Head Coach 23.03.2023 1:02:25
In Episode 115, Becky Burleigh, Co-Founder of What Drives Winning, former University of Florida Women's Soccer Coach (for 27 years), and Methodist College Hall of Famer, talks with Phil and Paul about the life and leadership lessons she learned over the course of her playing career and her extensive coaching career at University of Florida and Berry College, the story behind What Drives Winning, s...
Season 8 Halftime Show 09.03.2023 47:17
In Episode 114, Paul and Phil discuss their favorite moments and nuggets of wisdom from our great guests in the first half of Season 8, the beautiful side of international mission trips, how you can get involved with them, and how soccer often is the best interpreter around the world, and other fun things that you'll hear when you listen. We are certain you will learn something and be challenged b...
Inform, Educate, Entertain with JP Dellacamera, Hall of Fame Soccer Broadcaster 23.02.2023 1:01:26
In Episode 113, JP Dellacamera, Broadcaster of 16 World Cups and 3 Olympics, and so many other incredible games, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about the life and leadership lessons he has learned over the course of his soccer broadcasting career, which has spanned six decades, his keys to a great broadcast, how his best call ever was only one word, how he learned about teamwork in...
What is Your ANCHOR? with Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Soccer Head Coach, Former Pro, and 3-time All-American 09.02.2023 55:41
In Episode 112, Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Head Coach, former assistant coach at University of Texas and University of Tennessee, former USWNT, Sky Blue FC, and Atlanta Beat player, 3-time All-American defender at University of Tennessee, and wife, talks with Phil and Paul about what drives her to lead her players with excellence, lessons learned from her playing and coaching career, leadership...
Are the Xs and Os Really That Important? with Steve Axtell, Cortland University Head Men's Soccer Coach and Former Collegiate Goalkeeper 26.01.2023 59:52
In Episode 111, Steven Axtell, Head Coach of Cortland University Men's Soccer, former Cortland goalkeeper, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about lessons learned from his playing and coaching career, leadership lessons gleaned from his coaches, his thoughts on playing multiple sports, how he is using lessons from the game in his family, why he doesn't think superior tactics and strate...
Winning AND Learning with Keri Sanchez, Colorado College Head Coach and Former USWNT, UNC, and Professional Player 12.01.2023 1:01:04
In Episode 110, Keri Sanchez, Head Coach of Colorado College Women's Soccer, former Head Coach at Illinois Wesleyan and Claremont McKenna-Harvey Mudd-Scripps, former assistant at UT-Austin and University of Oregon, US Soccer Scout and USYNT assistant, and former WUSA, WPS, USWNT, and UNC-Chapel Hill player, kicks off Season 8 by talking with Phil and Paul about lessons learned from her extensive p...
World Cup Review, 2022 Highlights, and Season 7 Post-Match Show 29.12.2022 56:18
In Episode 109, Paul and Phil cover their favorite moments from the second half of Season 7, their highlights from the incredible guests we've had on HSEL throughout 2022, their top 2022 recommendations, and a review of the incredible World Cup we just experienced over the past month, including their favorite goals, plays, and teams throughout the tournament. It's a great way to top off a great ye...
Improving Your Normal with Paul McVeigh, Performance Psychologist and Former Premier League and Int'l Footballer 15.12.2022 41:21
In Episode 108, Paul McVeigh, Performance and Sports Psychologist, Author of The Stupid Footballer is Dead, and former footballer with Tottenham Hotspur, Norwich City, and Northern Ireland, talks with Phil and Paul about great life and leadership lessons he has learned from his time playing football at the highest level, how to improve your normal, how he has overcome adversity, why we should want...
Overcoming Injuries with Mike Buchanan, Author and Athletes in Action Missionary 01.12.2022 1:12:38
In Episode 107, Mike Buchanan, Athletes in Action missionary for over 30 years in various positions, Author of More Than That: Biblical Principles for Dealing With Athletic Injuries , and Husband and Father, talks with Phil and Paul about great life and leadership lesson he has learned from different aspects of athletics, how he overcame brutal injuries and how we can do the same, and how breaking...
World Cup '22 Preview 17.11.2022 58:35
In Episode 106, Paul and Phil talk about the upcoming World Cup in Qatar, covering the FIFA corruption leading up to the Cup, the new documentary, "FIFA Uncovered," which is rocking the world of football, predictions about who will get out of each group and who will ultimately with the Cup, and some leadership lessons we can learn from all of it. It is a fun and enlightening conversation that you...
Get on the Bus with Tim Ryerson, GOTB Founder, Ballistic United SC GM, and Ellicott City SC Founder 03.11.2022 1:03:56
In Episode 105, Tim Ryerson, Founder and ED of Get On The Bus, GM and Consultant with Ballistic United Soccer Club, Founder of Ellicott City Soccer Club, and Husband and Father, talks with Phil and Paul about how he is making the beautiful game more accessible for youth across the country through his work with Get On The Bus, his special needs program in Maryland, some of the life and leadership l...
Season 7 Halftime Show 20.10.2022 44:50
In Episode 104, Paul and Phil discuss an important change for HSEL, which will go into effect after this episode), highlights from the first half of Season 7, and, of course, several important lessons from the beautiful game that will help us flourish on and off the field. Resources and Links from this Episode Uncut Video of the Episode HSEL Facebook Group Coaching the Bigger Game information Warr...
50 Years of Stories with Horst Richardson, Legendary Colorado College Coach & USC Hall of Famer 13.10.2022 58:50
In Episode 103, Horst Richardson, who coached the Colorado College Tigers Men's Soccer team for 50 years and is a United Soccer Coaches Hall of Fame Member, talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive coaching experience and the lessons he learned from the journey, his favorite things about coaching, unorthodox film sessions, leadership and life lessons he has taught and learned from a half-centu...
The Training Ground for Life with Dave Simeone, Director of Education Programs for United Soccer Coaches & former USWNT Coach 06.10.2022 1:11:12
In Episode 102, Dave Simeone, Director of Education Programs for United Soccer Coaches who has coached at every level, including the 1999 USWNT World Cup champions, talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive coaching experience and the lessons he learned from the journey, his favorite things about coaching, his thoughts on the state of US Soccer, why coaches need to encourage innovation and crea...
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