Penn Media Group

How Did They Get There

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"For nearly a decade, How Did They Get There has been a space where artists and filmmakers reflect on their work, their relationships, and their search for meaning. Hosted by Dr. Penn (Jon Penn Junejo, DNP-BC), a Columbia-trained psychiatry provider, the show brings together creativity and mental health in unfiltered, existential conversation."

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Latest episode

May 22, 2026

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Ep. 42 - Alfredo de Villa on Nothing Like the Holidays, Adrift in Manhattan and Mulholland Drive 30.06.2023

Alfredo de Villa directs films which layer complex characters onto the backdrop of vibrant emotions; irreverent humor and interweaving narrative themes which take the lead. They carry the weight of strong characters as they brace themselves for the reality they’re immersed in after not realizing the fact until someone, or something or their own voice rises to the surface and informs who they reall...

Ep. 41 - Angela Zhou on Death and Other Details, Hell on Wheels and Auckland Cuisine 16.06.2023

Actress and writer Angela Zhou stars in the upcoming Hulu show, Death and Other Details (formerly Career Opportunities in Murder & Mayhem) which is set to premiere this year. She previously starred in AMC’s Hell on Wheels, opposite Anson Mount, playing a character trying to make a fresh start while carrying an important secret. The show was shot in Canada, and took place during the time follow...

Ep. 40 - Jesse Gustafson on Day 39, Black Site Delta and Army Peacekeeping Missions 28.05.2023

Unique experiences affecting disparate individuals, from the marginalized to the privileged, form the template for the types of stories filmmaker Jesse Gustafson conveys in his projects. After graduating high school in Florida, Jesse enlisted in the US Army at age 17, and was deployed on a peacekeeping mission to post-genocide Bosnia-Herzegovina. Considering the possibility of remaining in the mil...

Ep. 39 - Topper Lilien on Low Down, Where the Money Is and Fisher Stevens 21.05.2023

Screenwriter Topper Lilien has a lens shaped with extraordinary life experiences, which have a symbiotic relationship with his diverse array of film projects. In other words, the two feed off of each other, and push forward the creation of something truly unique. The New York native has seen it all when it comes to the development, production, release, and perhaps most importantly, the collaborati...

Ep. 38 - Helen Schulman on Lucky Dogs, P.S. and Gordon Lish 26.04.2023

As a renowned author and screenwriter, Helen Schulman’s work makes the isolated feel less alone. Her latest novel, Lucky Dogs, is a perfect example in its deep navigation of themes like mental illness, social media, duplicity and betrayal. In her novels and short story collections, which include A Day at the Beach, This Beautiful Life, Come with Me and The Revisionist, she explores topics like tra...

Ep. 37 - Joel Stein on Story of the Week, I Love the '80s and Martha Stewart 11.04.2023

After finding his voice as a columnist for The Stanford Daily, journalist, commentator and podcast host Joel Stein headed off to New York City to begin his career as a fact-checker and writer at Martha Stewart Living. Since then, he has written for publications such as Time Out New York; Time Magazine, where he authored over 20 cover stories throughout a 20 year period; Entertainment Weekly; and t...

Ep. 36 - Lauren Wolkstein on Dead Ringers, A Friend of the Family and The Strange Ones 29.03.2023

One of the signatures which differentiates filmmaker Lauren Wolkstein’s work is adaptability through medium. Lauren’s approach toward narrative and storytelling harbors a rare versatility, which allows her to nearly seamlessly transition from film to television; short to feature; thriller to drama; and dystopian commentary to historical narrative. She harnessed her talent and developed her ability...

Ep. 35 - Selina Fillinger on The Morning Show, POTUS and Faceless 21.03.2023

Selina Fillinger is the playwright behind renowned theatrical works like POTUS: Or, Behind Every Great Dumbass are Seven Women Trying To Keep him Alive; Something Clean; Faceless; and the Armor plays: Cinched/Strapped. The former marked her Broadway debut at the Shubert Theatre in 2022; was directed by Broadway legend, Susan Stroman; and led to three Tony Award nominations, including Best Performa...

Ep. 34 - Josh Pais on Joker, Committed Impulse and Ray Donovan 04.03.2023

The dynamic nature of actor Josh Pais’s approach toward constructing performance; harnessing creativity; and retaining the spontaneity associated with each moment on-screen is part of his signature. With over 100 roles to his credit, the Lower East Side native grew up in a culturally vibrant, evolving environment which led him to cultivate his own unique sense of identity as one of the finest perf...

Ep. 33 - Shrimoyee Chakraborty on India Bites, Calcutta Street and Chicken Curry 03.02.2023

Host of the Tastemade Travel docuseries, India Bites on Apple TV, Chef Shrim Chakraborty transcends the “chop and chat” model by placing her own stamp on the food travel show genre. From being a talk show host, to honing her culinary craft in graduate school in Manchester, to opening her own restaurant, Calcutta Street, in Britain after a series of pop-ups, Shrim uses her versatile talent to shed...

Ep. 32 - Maureen A. Ryan on Becoming, Man on Wire and James Marsh 20.01.2023

Maureen Ryan is a veteran producer who has made a number of seminal, impactful films throughout her versatile career. Her several documentary collaborations with acclaimed British director James Marsh (The Theory of Everything) are among them, and began with Wisconsin Death Trip (1999). Constructed with a film-noir grittiness, the film surveyed a series of grizzly murders which took place in Black...

Ep. 31 - Avy Kaufman on Succession, Capote and Steven Spielberg 14.01.2023

Avy Kaufman’s filmography includes projects which changed the landscape of cinema. The three-time Emmy winning casting director has worked on over 300 films and television shows including The Sixth Sense, Artificial Intelligence, Brokeback Mountain, American Gangster and Capote. In television, she has cast acclaimed shows including Succession, Mare of Easttown, Damages and Dopesick. In our convers...

Ep. 30 - George Stroumboulopoulos on World Food Programme, The Clash, and Larry King 10.12.2022

As a globally renowned television and radio personality, broadcaster, filmmaker and activist George Stroumboulopoulos believes retaining credibility in the creative process is an important tenet to live by. Throughout the past 30 years, he has forayed successfully into his vast endeavors in entertainment and beyond, transcending “pop-culturehood” by sustaining a household name armed with the man h...

Ep. 29 - Anna Maria Cianciulli on Hamlet/Horatio, Stay and Sanford Meisner 24.11.2022

Anna Maria Cianciulli pushes the boundaries of filmmaking as an actress, director, writer and artist. Her acclaimed performance as Queen Gertrude of Denmark in Hamlet/Horatio, a feature film adaptation, was released theatrically in the summer of 2021 and is now streaming on all the major film platforms. The film has received Best Film awards at Los Angeles Film Awards, New York Cinematography Awar...

Ep. 28 - Sam Lipsyte on No One Left to Come Looking for You, 90's NYC and a Corrupt Mayor 19.11.2022

As an acclaimed novelist, essayist and author of short stories, writer Sam Lipsyte knows what it’s like to push the boundaries of form in the context of bold, irreverent and iconoclastic situations. In each of his literary masterpieces, he provides a glimpse into the humanity which surrounds the complex experiences which inform the foundation of their characters. He authored his debut publication,...

Ep. 27 - Hilary Brougher on South Mountain, Stephanie Daley and The Sticky Fingers of Time 15.11.2022

Hilary Brougher writes and directs films which blend the mechanics of original storytelling with gritty development of character. Through incisive dialogue; emotional harbingers of hope followed by inevitable glimpses of realism, Hilary’s projects each carry with them a distinct piece of the era in which they were constructed. Growing up in Catskill, NY, she would frequent the cinema every week to...

Ep. 26 - Madeline Taylor on John Adams, The Girl Next Door and Changeover 13.11.2022

Madeline Taylor knew she wanted to become an actress from an early age, and she transferred drive toward action in a swift series of steps at the age of 8. As a 10 year old, she made her feature film debut in The Girl Next Door (Blanche Baker; Mark Margolis; Blythe Auffarth) as the sister of a teenager severely abused by their caretaker aunt and a neighborhood gang of boys. Madeline played a chara...

Ep. 25 - Andrew Hafitz on Bully, Naz & Maalik and Todd Solondz 05.11.2022

Andrew Hafitz is a veteran editor who has worked on some of the most unique films of all time. After graduating from Yale, and parleying a foray into copywriting, the New Jersey native gained experience in apprentice and assistant editor roles on several films, including Ang Lee’s Sense and Sensibility. He edited multiple feature films prior to working on Whit Stillman’s 1998 film Last Days of Dis...

Ep. 24 - Stephen Molton on The Drowning, Brave Talk and Elvis Meets Nixon 25.10.2022

Acclaimed screenwriter and novelist Stephen Molton has amassed a lauded portfolio of impactful credits in several media. After breaking into television through writing screenplays for the Paul Newman-produced PBS's Children's Television Workshop, Stephen wrote his first novel, Brave Talk, which was published by Harper & Row in 1987 and provided a riveting, multi-angled introspective portrait o...

Ep. 23 - David Soldier on The Kropotkins, John Cale and Kurt Vonnegut 12.10.2022

David Soldier has achieved a rare distinction — not only is he an accomplished Columbia University neuroscientist with over 200 papers and publications, several research grants and numerous prestigious awards to his credit, he is an equally successful and prolific musician in almost every genre of music. His musical undertakings include his work with the Soldier String Quartet (since 1984), a punk...

Ep. 22 - Kevin Isola on Billions, The New Bozena and Shakespearean Clowning 08.10.2022

Kevin Isola is a self-described journeyman actor, who has experienced great longevity in several media, including theatre, television and film. The Pasadena native attended Duke University, and consequently studied acting at NYU-Tisch, where he discovered the value of being freed-up creatively through faculty who mentored and pushed his creative strengths. We discuss a major moment in his career,...

Ep. 21 - Jeremy Robbins on The Purge, Aftermath and Barry Sonnenfeld 07.10.2022

Writer and director Jeremy Robbins was Story Editor for two seasons of the Blumhouse horror anthology series — The Purge — based on the successful film franchise (grossing $500M+ worldwide) of the same name; he worked closely with James DeMonaco, creator of the franchise, in allowing viewers to explore a time in which all crime is declared legal for a 12 hour period. The show aired on USA Network...

Ep. 20 - David Klass on Out of Time, Kiss the Girls and Walking Tall 18.09.2022

Prolific writer David Klass has explored his unique, exquisite talent for storytelling throughout his career in a plethora of literary media. Since his debut publication, The Atami Dragons , David’s 20 novels have navigated the nuances of themes which include complicated father-son relationships; differences between eco-terrorism and environmentalism; and team dynamics. David’s own significant ath...

Ep. 19 - Teresa Harris on German architecture, Marcel Breuer and Frank Lloyd Wright 17.09.2022

As Head of Classics, Drawings & Archives at Avery Library of Columbia University, Teri Harris holds an important responsibility as it relates to upholding the legacy of legendary architects and artists. While she was earning her B.A. in Art History at Williams College, Teri took a class which changed her life, and established a bent toward architecture. It led her to move to New York City from...

Ep. 18 - Seemab Gul on Sandstorm, Zahida and The Watchmaker 08.09.2022

Seemab Gul is the writer and director of the universally-acclaimed short film, Sandstorm, which recently qualified for Academy Awards contention after winning in categories at both the HollyShorts and Flickers’ Rhode Island International film festivals this year. The film premiered at the Venice Film Festival; follows a young Pakistani girl’s story when she is blackmailed by her virtual boyfriend...

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