Going In Circles

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show Barry and I start off discussing our venture out to Gulfstream Park on Saturday for the Pegasus World Cup which was a good time with some great performances (Life is Good 👍🏻, Colonel Liam 👍🏻, Regal Glory 👍🏻, Jaime Spenser 👎🏼). We got to meet a bunch of listeners and that’s always a treat! We then talk about the controversy emanating out of the...

Barry and I go over the 12 races that make up Saturdays PEGASUS World Cup at Gulfstream Park. We go through the fields and give you our thoughts on each including horses that we like, ones we don’t like and potential sleepers that you might have missed at first glance!

On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I talk about todays hearing re: NYRA vs Baffert and how that seemed to go on Day 1. We previewed the Pegasus World Cup and Barry tries to convince me an upset is a possibility (he didn’t convince me) and a little weather coverage that would make Jim Cantore jealous. (It’s gonna be 🥶). We review the Lecomte Stakes from Saturdays big card at the FG and also ta...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show (Live from Pompano Park) we talk about todays Astra Stakes from Santa Anita which led to a discussion about too many graded stakes still being run. From there we had a conversation about short fields and how the industry has not put together any program to enhance horse ownership numbers. We spoke about our trip to Tampa Bay Downs on Saturday as the gu...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show Barry and I talk about the latest Bob Baffert vs the racing world potential lawsuit after a report in the New York Times that litigation against the Churchill Downs ban is imminent. It’s a story that isn’t going to go away anytime soon and may overshadow the actual Kentucky Derby preps themselves. Listen in to hear what we have to say on this latest de...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we talk about the early season KY Derby preps from FG, OP, Aqu, GP and SA and how much of a factor any of the horses exiting these races might be. We also discuss jockeys celebrating or touching hands after the races in lieu of the incident at Laurel a few days back and both have pretty strong feelings about that. Takeout at Slots tracks with huge purs...

On tonight’s Big Monday Barry and I feel obligated to talk about the worlds newest wonder horse Flightline and his huge blowout win in Sundays Malibu. We also discuss some items that bother both of us including distinct lack of effort on reducing takeout to optimum levels, inaccurate information being disseminated knowingly and nothing being done about it, backside integrity and how it could be do...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we lament the current state of the industry, talk about how Gulfstream’s turf is the latest place that races seemingly can’t be timed properly, why accurate times and fractions matter (a lot!); sing the praises of Gabe Prewitt and the job he has done at Pompano (and the sadness surrounding the fact that it doesn’t matter as the parent company is still...

Tonight we talk about the latest tone deaf move by a major industry player and what it is that doesn’t seem to resonate within racing circles. We also touch on why people with 30-40-50+ racing violations are still being licensed by states when qualifying for a professional license should have a far higher standard. Another quick topic is the No Empty Stockings 🎅🏽 program now in its 4th year of s...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show Barry and I discuss the tragic death of Medina Spirit, how California racing could be in its final stages, why racing is a disaster area, how Bob Baffert made himself toxic, why much is now out of the hands of racing and the difficulty we are having in defending the sport/business/industry that we love. It’s not pretty but it’s 100% how we feel which i...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show Barry and I talk about Maxfield going out a winner in the Clark last weekend as well as recap the other stakes action at Churchill, Del Mar and Aqueduct. We also look forward to this seasons three year olds turning four and how 2022 should be a strong year for the older horse stakes with a really solid crew returning. We also discuss the inane HISA reg...

On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I discuss the first round Kentucky Derby Futures which were announced Monday with one very controversial trainers horses not included among the 22 individual listed. That theme continues as we discuss how the Baffert Derby situation will loom over the business the next six months for better or worse. Tracks and other racing organizations hiring wagering exper...

On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I discuss the baffling inability of tracks when it comes to accurate timing of the races as we found out that the fractions for the Breeders Cup Distaff and Classic were not correct. That led into a discussion about how issues often don’t get solved in racing because no one is willing to take on a problem if they perceive that it’s someone else’s fault or res...

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On this weeks Big Monday show Barry and I recap the entire Breeder Cup weekend, all fourteen races capped by Knicks Go’s Classic score. We also talk about what things look like going forward and how next year might be a banner year for older handicap horses. Oh yeah we also touch on how the entire CHRB let the industry down by not only being inept but tone deaf and petty in their handling of just...

Going in Circles 2021 BREEDERS CUP Preview looks at all 14 of the Breeders Cup races over both days. Barry and Jeff offer unique takes on all the races, hopefully pointing out some angles that you may have overlooked. We also get some strong opinions on several races both pro and con with a lot of fading of favorites in the no chalk zone 🚫. Hope you enjoy! 💵💵💵

On tonight’s show we talk about the tragic passing of jockey Miguel Mena, discuss todays Breeders Cup post position draw and how that may effect the races this weekend and point out the late post times for the Breeders Cup races which sort of turns them into a nighttime event for the East coast. We also take on the takeout in California (too high) especially with having one bet with two different...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Pre-pre Breeders Cup Big Monday show we talk about (what else?) the Breeders Cup. On that topic we delve into how racing can better structure the graded stakes schedule so that it more effectively leads into the championship event and avoid situations like this years sparse Filly Sprint field. We also mourn the passing of some longtime racing media icons and the abrup...

The TRF is having a special 20th anniversary horse show at its Lowell facility in Ocala this coming Thursday, October 21. We talk to Kim about the program and other programs that the TRF is administering and developing. Check it out at www.trfinc.org

On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about why racing can’t seem to rid itself of issues that seem like low hanging fruit with the latest case in Delaware where bad actors got ludicrously light penalties. We also discuss the Breeders Cup’s curious path to allow Bob Baffert to compete in the championship events and how it might have been done a lot more effectively. Tales of horse sales and fantasy...

On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap the final round of Breeders Cup preps from Keeneland and Belmont and talk about how the fields are shaping up for the big event. We also delve into the difference between legal medications and illegal drugs and why there is so much confusion between them and how one is far, far worse than the other.

On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap the huge weekend of Breeders Cup prep action from Belmont, Churchill and Santa Anita including three of the main Classic preps. We also reveal our Top 9 list for the Classic at this time and finish up with talk about integrity and how the racetracks themselves are finally stepping up with Gulfstream Park being the latest with its out of competition Clenbuterol...

On this weeks Big Monday show we talk about last weekends stakes at Parx including Hot Rod Charlie’s Pennsylvania Derby, Jackies Warriors cakewalk, the Silver State controversy, Chub Wagon not getting the inquiry sign at least hung after her race and some Life is Good talk. Also Monmouths handle numbers are in and yes clearly they lost handle from operating whipless and some reminiscing about top...

On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show Barry and I discuss the Charlie Appleby takeover of North American grade 1 turf races, whether Charlie should accept a sponsorship from the Applebee’s restaurant chain, we review some of the ludicrous Breeders Cup futures odds which are in some cases bizarre. We also talk about the timing issues that are plaguing Belmont and one of the potential reason...

On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I talk about some topics on our mind including some ideas about tying the Breeders Cup to the “regular season” through a series of races leading up to the big days. We also talk about a variety of other topics including a story of a loose cow running around a training track at 3am. 🏇🏻