Girl Out of Order Podcast

"Your compelling life does not exist in the comfort zone—it lives on the other side of the nudge." In this powerful and heartfelt episode, I’m speaking directly to that quiet little voice inside you—the one that’s been gently (or maybe not so gently) nudging you toward change. Whether it's in your health, your career, or your relationships, that nudge isn’t random. It’s divine guida...

“Dare to do that action. Dare to go for what you've been holding yourself back. Because passion never comes like a scream. It's always a whisper.” Besa Martini I am thrilled to share this deeply meaningful episode of Girl Out of Order with you — one of the conversations I lean on the most when I think about growth, identity, grit, and what it means to get unstuck from old stories. I sit...

“Put a period at the end of the sentence. Evil is evil. Period.” This week’s episode is deeply personal, raw, and filled with reflection. Originally, I had planned to bring you an inspiring conversation with my coach, Bessa Martini, but after the heartbreaking events in Utah, I felt compelled to speak directly to you from the depths of my soul. This episode is a call for unity, a reminder of our s...

"When we treat old stories like safety blankets, we forget they’re actually straight jackets—suffocating our potential and robbing us of joy." Sisters, this one’s personal. This final episode in the Letting Go When Your Heart Wants to Hold On series may be the most important message I’ve ever shared on the Girl Out of Order podcast. We're peeling back the layers and diving into some...

"Not all friendships are meant to last forever. Some are meant for a season, a reason, but not for life." Christine Gale This episode of the Girl Out of Order podcast is one that comes straight from my heart to yours. In Episode 3 of our "Letting Go When the Heart Wants to Hold On" series, we're diving into a topic that many women avoid, yet nearly all of us face: letting...

“Build a vision for your life that is bigger than your fear, and watch your courage rise to meet it.” In part two of our deeply personal series, “Letting Go When the Heart Wants to Hold On,” I’m leaning into one of the most tender, complex, and courageous conversations yet: letting go of an intimate partnership when your heart still clings to love. As a divorce attorney, a wife of nearly 32 years,...

“Letting go doesn’t mean losing them. It means trusting that the love you’ve poured into them will carry them farther than your arms ever could.” The 1st episode in the new 4-part series, "Letting Go When Your Heart Wants to Hold On" is timely and touching. Letting your college kiddos go is gut wrenching AND a beautiful opportunity to reimagine your gorgeous life. Over these next few epi...

"God kept me alive, and I’m going to use that gift to make a contribution on this planet."  Lauren Finkelstein What would you do if you stood just steps away from a suicide bombing… and lived? For my friend and fellow badass leader, Lauren Finkelstein, that moment changed everything. In this raw, unfiltered conversation, Lauren shares how surviving both the Sbarro bombing in Jerusalem an...

“Agency is confronting the false narrative that says you’re not enough—and choosing to show up anyway.” – Tammy Quist In this deeply moving and powerful episode of Girl Out of Order, I sit down with my soul sister and transformational change agent, Tammy Quist. She is not just an educational consultant; she is a catalyst for transformation with over three decades of experience in education, leader...

Hey sister, I'm back—and oh, how I've missed this space! In this deeply personal solo episode, I'm sharing where I’ve been for the past two months and what it means to intentionally cocoon during life’s wildest transitions. From unforgettable mountaintop moments with my daughters to full-blown celebratory chaos (yes, we graduated three kids in 14 hours!), I’ve been living deeply and...

“The unexpected will arrive, sister—but it doesn’t have to break you. It can build you.” In this deeply personal and raw conversation, I open up about something every single one of us has experienced—or will: the arrival of the unexpected. Whether it's a sudden loss, a devastating diagnosis, a dream deferred, or even something as frustrating as a surprise tax bill, life has a way of knocking...

“Fear screams, but truth whispers. Choose to listen to the whispers.” I’m back after a much-needed breath, and in today’s episode, I’m diving into a topic that couldn’t be more timely: finding calm in the chaos . Life right now feels like a wild storm — uncertain news, unpredictable relationships, and just straight-up overwhelm. If you're feeling it too, you’re not alone. This episode is my h...

"You are allowed to disappoint someone else before you betray your beautiful self."  Me :) Spring is blooming, and so is your calendar—and if you’re anything like me, you’ve looked at your upcoming schedule and thought, “What the heck… how am I going to do it all?” This episode is a soul-centered pep talk and a practical strategy session rolled into one. Whether you’re a mom juggling end...

"You'll never know what you're truly made of if you stay in a situation that forces you to dim your light."  Kara Vaval - Laptop Lawyer Lifestyle Have you ever felt stuck in a life that no longer fits who you are? In this powerful episode, I sit down with the unstoppable Kara Vaval—lawyer, coach, author, and unapologetic powerhouse—who shares her journey from heartbreak and str...

"When you're feeling like you want to quit, like you don’t know why you keep going—go back to your why. Because what you focus on gets bigger, and your purpose will always bring you back home."   Christine Gale - Girl Out of Order WOW. We made it, my friends! 100 episodes! I am feeling ALL the feels right now—excitement, pride, gratitude, and just sheer amazement at this journey. Ne...

“Your compelling, beautiful, exciting life is waiting right on the other side of the nudge.”   Christine D. Gale We’re one episode away from 100, and I am fired up ! 🎉 In this milestone moment, we’re diving into something I know for sure: we cannot ignore the nudge. You know the one—the whisper, the tug on your heart, that feeling in your gut telling you there's more . But too often, we push...

"The only way you can guarantee failure is to quit. But you, sister? You are a Girl Out of Order. You are not a quitter. The world needs what only you can provide." I cannot believe we are closing in on 100 episodes of Girl Out of Order ! This journey has been nothing short of incredible, and as I reflect on the past few years, I’ve been feeling all the feels —nostalgia, gratitude, and a...

"You are not a stray. You are a full package, and we are no longer accepting crumbs."  Dr. Renaisa Anthony In this powerful episode, I sit down with the incredible Dr. Renaisa Anthony—Harvard-trained physician, public health advocate, and fierce champion for women and mothers. From growing up in Detroit to leading life-changing initiatives through Momentum Park , Dr. Ren shares her inspi...

“Evil is not some grand, supernatural force. It’s the small moments of inhumanity, the quiet choices to look away, the subtle dismissals of suffering. That is where evil thrives.” — Susan Neiman, moral philosopher I am showing up today with a broken heart and a fierce, unwavering spirit. If you’ve been paying attention, you know that on October 7, 2023, Hamas terrorists invaded Israel, massacring...

"Owning it means embracing every part of your journey—the messy, the magical, and everything in between." Loren Lahav What does it truly mean to own it —your story, your mission, your worth? Today, I’m joined by the incredible Loren Lahav , a powerhouse speaker, mentor, and all-around beautiful badass who has spent decades empowering women to step into their greatness. Loren and I first...

"When Life Feels Unfair, Remember Who You Are." This special Thursday episode is straight from the heart, because I know someone out there—maybe even you —needs to hear this. Life threw a series of unexpected and painful challenges my way this week, and I found myself grappling with anger, fear, and injustice, especially when it came to protecting my child. But here’s the truth: No matte...

“You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them.” Maya Angelou Get ready for a deep, uplifting, and fun conversation with the radiant Erin Nunweiler, founder of Spread More Love and Joy ! In this episode, Erin shares her powerful journey of self-discovery and resilience, including the challenging decisions that cost her a career of nearly 30 yea...

I'm a firm believer of following the energy. If you have to pound on a closed door to get it to open, it's not meant for you.   Jeanette Lira In this episode, I sit down with the inspiring Jeanette Lira—licensed professional counselor, business owner, and single mama—whose story is a powerful testament to the strength it takes to rebuild and redefine your life. From the life-changing los...

"True belonging doesn’t require us to change who we are; it requires us to be who we are." – Brené Brown In this deeply personal episode of Girl Out of Order , I’m sharing the powerful lessons I learned about belonging during my recent trip to the Dominican Republic. From a young age, I’ve struggled to find my place in the world, feeling like a square peg in a round hole. Can you relate?...

"Let's be honest: Showing up as your true self – flaws and all – can be scary as hell. But it's also where the greatest growth happens." Dawn Taylor Welcome to this transformative episode of the Girl Out of Order podcast, where we sit down with the inspiring Dawn Taylor, the creator of Personal Mastery, to explore the profound significance of identity work for women. This candi...