Gender Spiral
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Go to patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcast to gain to listen ad-free and gain access to bonus content like videos, extended interviews, cut-for-time content, live shows and more! Gender Spiral is an award-winning podcast about being a varied, ever-changing human in a world built around categories. Hosts Ally Beardsley (Dropout) and Babette Thomas (Yale University) interview trans and queer guests- the experts on reinvention and evolution- and investigate how we as humans interact with, reject, and reconfigure the boxes society puts us in.
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Episodes
[PREVIEW] GENDER SPIRAL LIVE (w/ Naomi McPherson & E.R. Fightmaster) AD-FREE 16.04.2026 5:01
Most podcasts don't host a live show until like, season two. But we're not "most podcasts." After releasing our first episode, we threw a launch party and recorded an episode live at The Yard Theater in LA. Thanks to everyone who came out to the show, and a HUGE thanks to our guests Naomi McPherson (MUNA) and E.R. Fightmaster ( Grey's Anatomy, Shrill )! Ally, Babette, Naomi and E.R. talk about cor...
[PREVIEW] Lesbian to T-Guy Pipeline (w/ Jacke Colquitt & River Butcher) AD-FREE 16.04.2026 1:14
In the pilot episode, Ally and Babette chat about being trans in a steakhouse bathroom, Black Quantum Futurism, and the "lesbian to T-guy express." Featuring interviews with multi-disciplinary artist Jacke Colquitt and comedian River Butcher!
[PREVIEW] Unmasking and re-MASCing (w/ Dr. Devon Price) AD-FREE 16.04.2026 1:06
Fresh out of top surgery, author Dr. Devon Price ("Unmasking Autism," "Laziness Does Not Exist") talks coming out as trans and autistic, the unsettling feeling of gender "success" and why autistic folks are more likely to be out as queer and trans. Find Devon on Instagram
[PREVIEW] Aggressively Feminine (w/ Persephone Valentine) AD-FREE 16.04.2026 0:26
Persephone Valentine talks drag, five minute gender hacks, and exploring one's gender through D&D and other RPGs. (TW: Discussion of difficulties surrounding medical transition and gender affirming surgeries.) Find Persephone on Instagram , Twitter and Tiktok @persephiroth, and watch her stream on Twitch!
[PREVIEW] A Liberated Black and Trans Future (w/ maya finoh) AD-FREE 16.04.2026 1:14
This week, Babette talks to their old friend and gender mentor maya finoh about cultural work, modeling, and their vision for a liberated future. Find maya on Instagram @savagexfatty
Season 3 Highlights (w/ Ally & Babette) 12.02.2026 36:19
It's been a month since season 3 ended, so we decided to catch up and reflect! Here are some of our favorite moments from this season, plus an update on what's going on in our own lives. Here are the clips you heard in this episode (in order): Ericka Hart & Ebony Donnelly, "Parenting on Purpose" Kamra Hakim, "Community Care in the Catskills" Cass Adair, "A Baby? In This Economy?" Judith Butler...
Kiki (and Bouba) with Ally & Babette 01.01.2026 46:13
Happy New Year! We took some time to catch up with each other, look back on season 3, and discuss Sandra Bullock's secret lesbian club (and Heated Rivalry, ofc). We also responded to some listener voicemails! Thanks for spiraling with us in 2025! Season 3 was our biggest season yet, but we've got so much more spiraling to do in 2026. Stay tuned! Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender...
Judith Butler Talks About Their Gender (w/ Judith Butler) 15.12.2025 54:11
The legendary gender philosopher and scholar Judith Butler tells us about their personal relationship to non-binary identity. They also provide insight on the global rise of anti-trans ideology, the subject of their 2024 book "Who's Afraid of Gender?" Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world. Subsc...
There is No Solo Future (w/ J Wortham) 02.12.2025 41:20
What are the practical skills you need to survive the apocalypse? Writer, podcast host, culture afficionado, and reiki practioner J Wortham has done the research (and watched a lot of Survivor). J shares what they learned during their survivalism crash-course on a remote island in Mexico, tells us about their reiki and breathwork practices, and examines why dissasociation might not always be a bad...
Suing the Government (w/ Zander Schlacter) 18.11.2025 34:15
Artist Zander Schlacter and his lawyer Carl Charles from Lambda Legal explain the effects of the Tr*mp administration's executive order barring trans folks from obtaining passports with their correct gender markers, and why Zander is suing the US State Department about it. For more information about Zander's case, visit lambdalegal.org . Find Zander on Instagram @zanderschlacter , and check out th...
Transitions and Tattoos (w/ Eoin McGraw) 04.11.2025 1:01:23
You might already know Eoin from our live show in Chicago this past May, but you're about to get to know him even better! Before the show that day, we got a chance to talk with him in-depth about the world of powerlifting, having a cis identical twin, and why for Eoin, tattooing, sexuality and gender are all intricately connected. Then, we got tatted! Find Eoin on Instagram @eoin_mcgraw and book a...
The Revolution Will Be Self-Published (w/ Sasha Fuentes) 21.10.2025 1:00:49
The multi-talented Sasha Fuentes tells us about developing his queer archival practice, collecting vintage gay p*rn, and the importance of print media in the age of digital censorship. And stick around to the end of the episode: our very special season finale guest, the legendary Judith Butler(!), joins in to discuss bridging intergenerational differences within the queer community. Follow Sasha o...
Community Care in the Catskills (w/ Kamra Hakim) 07.10.2025 54:33
Everyone wants to run away from society and build a queer homestead with their polycule, but what does it actually take to make that happen? We talk to artist and organizer Kamra Hakim about the land they bought in upstate New York, the artist residency/community space they created on it, and why conflict management is actually the most important skill in an off-grid queer community (besides knowi...
My Best Trans Wedding (w/ Rose Dommu) 23.09.2025 52:34
Twitter-queen-turned-fiction-novelist Rose Dommu talks about her new book Best Woman : a family drama Trojan-horsed into a rom-com loosely based on Rose's personal experiences. We also get her opinions about DIY hormone cocktails, bleaching your way out of a crisis, and what Fire Island is really like for trans folks. Best Woman is out NOW! Get your copy at a local bookstore or on Bookshop.org ! Y...
Gender Spiral LIVE in Chicago! (Night 2 w/ Irregular Girl & Mari De La Rua AKA Stephanie) 16.09.2025 1:18:54
Missed us in Chicago? NEVER FEAR, THE RECORDING IS HERE! Two Chicago drag ICONS joined us for night 2 of our weekend at iO Theater in May. Irregular Girl and Mari De La Rua (AKA Stephanie) tell us about being in a drag family, how drag informed their gender identities, and why drag would suck without trans women. Find our incredible guests on Instagram @imirregulargirl and @dragmestephanie Hosted...
A Baby? In This Economy? (w/ Cass Adair) 09.09.2025 1:07:43
We're continuing the thread on trans & queer parents in a conversation with scholar, writer, audio producer Cassius (Cass) Adair. He tells us about transitioning in the early days of Tumblr, getting baby fever in his late 20s, and the nitty-gritty of pregnancy and parenting as a trans dad in Minnesota. Check out Cass's work at his website cassiusadair.com . There, you can find links to his wri...
The Strongest Woman in the World (w/ Marley Gotterer) 26.08.2025 58:47
While recovering from surgery, comedian Marley Gotterer (who you probably already know from TikTok and Insta reels) made time to tell us about getting facial feminization (FFS) and chat about her love of sports, how she got to run social media for Cardi B, and lifting twinks live on stage. Check out Marley's work and get notified about her upcoming shows on her Instagram(s) @marleyismarley and @tr...
Lou Sullivan and The Pink Butt Book (w/ Zach Ozma & Ellis Martin) 12.08.2025 1:10:19
Lou Sullivan, arguably one of the first out gay trans men, kept diaries from age 11 until his death in 1991. Decades later, Zach Ozma and Ellis Martin compiled those diaries into "We Both Laughed in Pleasure" (aka the Pink Butt Book) which tells the story of Lou's full, freaky, fascinating life. Zach and Ellis talk to us about painstakingly parsing through Lou's Catholic school cursive and learnin...
Gender Spiral LIVE in Chicago! (Night 1 w/ Lynzo the Heartthrob & Eoin McGraw) 29.07.2025 1:34:40
Missed us in Chicago? NEVER FEAR, THE RECORDING IS HERE! On night one of our two-night extravaganza at iO Theater in May, Ally and Babette were joined by drag artist/DJ/rapper Lynzo the Heartthrob and tattoo artist/overall lovely human being Eoin McGraw for a hilarious and thoughtful convo. Then, they answer some audience questions! Stay tuned- night two will be posted soon exclusively on our Patr...
Money Sucks -And- You Can Do It (w/ River Nice) 15.07.2025 1:09:27
Is it possible to get out of my mountain of credit card debt? How do I budget for mutual aid? Should I be buying stocks? What even IS life insurance?! Anti-capitalist financial planner River Nice answers these questions and more, and Babette and Ally learn a thing or two about financial literacy. Find River on Instagram @financewithriver and check out their financial literacy programs, free budget...
Gender Spiral Season 3 Trailer 10.07.2025 2:00
Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.
Parenting on Purpose (w/ Ericka Hart & Ebony Donnelly) 01.07.2025 1:11:53
Ericka Hart and and Ebony Donnelly are partners in love and podcasting, and co-parents to a toddler. We asked them to share their queer & trans pregnancy story, and give Ally some parenting pointers! Check out their podcast Hoodrat to Headwrap : A Decolonized Podcast and find Ericka and their other work as a speaker and sex educator on Instagram @ihartericka . Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babe...
Stream of Consciousness Chat w/ Ally & Babette 24.06.2025 26:45
A little bonus episode just to check in! More new season 3 interviews rolling out next week, and biweekly after that. And check us out at patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcast for more bonus content like this! Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world. Subscribe/follow to get notified when we post new epi...
The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson (w/ Tourmaline) 17.06.2025 44:16
Artist, activist and author (and swimsuit designer!?) Tourmaline kicks off Season 3 of the podcast with a conversation about her connection to Marsha P. Johnson that led to multiple artworks and two recent books. Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world. Find Tourmaline on Instagram @tourmaliiine ,...
[PREVIEW] BONUS INTERVIEW - LEXI HARTT 04.03.2025 5:01
"Queer Hair" Installment #2: in which our producer Ira gets a haircut. (And chats with Brooklyn-based hairstylist Lexi Hartt about what queer hair means to her). Find Lexi on Instagram @sevenfisheshairstudio and book an appointment!
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