Fund the People
Fund the People: A Podcast with Rusty Stahl
Our unique show offers you a nutritious alternative to the nonprofit starvation cycle. Join host Rusty Stahl, who founded and leads Fund the People, and his guests from foundations, nonprofits, academia, and intermediaries, as we bring to light the value of investing in the 12.5 million people of America's nonprofit workforce.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Nonprofits Made America 19.02.2025 23:14
Welcome to the Fund the People Podcast and our new special series, “Defend Nonprofits, Defend Democracy.” Why “Defend Nonprofits, Defend Democracy”? Because powerful nonprofits are part of a strong democracy, and a strong democracy benefits from powerful nonprofits. When nonprofits are under attack, democracy is under attack. And when democracy is at risk, nonprofits are at risk. It’s clear that i...
Breaking the Silence: Making Leadership Transitions Safe for Nonprofits 12.02.2025 42:40
In this episode of the Fund The People Podcast, you’ll get an inside view of one foundation’s journey to investing in healthy nonprofit executive transitions - and helping other funders to do the same. Host Rusty Stahl sits down with Liz Sak , Executive Director of Cricket Island Foundation , and Hana Sun , a consultant who manages the Foundation’s Leadership Transition Fund. They discuss Cricket...
A Model for Systematically Improving Nonprofit Workplaces 05.02.2025 38:29
Arum Lee Lansel , founder of ALL-in 4 Impact, shares her unique career journey from fashion design to international development, philanthropy, and venture capital. Driven by her immigrant family's experience and desire to create more equity, she has developed a deep understanding of how organizations can better support their employees. Her perspective bridges the worlds of venture capital and...
When Staff Thrive, Communities Thrive: A Nonprofit Wage Revolution 29.01.2025 48:21
In this episode of the Fund the People podcast, host Rusty Stahl interviews Nneka Payne , Executive Director of Choose 180, a Seattle-area nonprofit that transforms oppressive systems and supports young people's healing and development. Payne shares her personal journey from experiencing the juvenile legal system firsthand to leading an organization that provides alternatives to prosecution an...
Not For Profit, Not For Cheap: California Nonprofit Workers Fight for Fair Pay 22.01.2025 46:57
In this illuminating episode of the Fund The People podcast, Geoff Green , CEO of the California Association of Nonprofits (CalNonprofits), provides a masterclass on the economic and political power of California's nonprofit sector. Green explains how nonprofits, as the fourth-largest employer in California with 1.2 million workers, are often tasked with addressing the "externalized costs...
When Politicians Call Nonprofits “Thugs” and “Sleazebags,” What Will You Do? 15.01.2025 48:35
When politicians and elected officials try to brand nonprofits as “thugs,” “sleazebags,” and “terror-supporting orgs”, will you freeze? Take flight? Or stand up and fight back? In this episode, you’ll get: Tips on how the incoming Trump Administration may behave toward philanthropy and the nonprofit sector, and some important ways your organization can prepare and respond; An overview of what FTP...
Investing in Fair Pay: Unlocking the Value, Process, and Costs for Nonprofit Workers 18.12.2024 49:27
Pay equity is a critical factor in attracting and retaining talent in the nonprofit sector, and organizations need to address pay disparities to ensure their long-term sustainability. Our guest today is Sally Loftis , Managing Director of Loftis Partners, who discussed pay equity and the importance of investing in staff. We talk about the challenges faced by nonprofits in attracting and retaini...
Responding to Threats to Civil Society 11.12.2024 52:49
On this episode of the Fund the People Podcast (S7:E4), you’ll get a bird’s eye view of the threats to nonprofits, civil society, and social movements around the world. And you’ll hear how one global funder has responded. Our guest today is Jamaica Maxwell , the Civil Society and Leadership Director at the David and Lucile Packard Foundation. We discuss the challenges faced by civil society globa...
Coaching Black Women Leaders in White Nonprofit Spaces 04.12.2024 38:31
In this episode, you’ll garner an important perspective on the nonprofit and philanthropic community from a professional coach who helps Black women executive leaders navigate the white spaces of our sector. Guest Kelli King-Jackson reflects on the impact of racial politics on organizational culture. We discuss the need for nonprofits to adapt to a changing workforce, including generational diffe...
Breaking News: This Journalist Covers Funding for the Nonprofit Workforce 20.11.2024 31:13
In this episode, you'll get a free-wheeling, big picture view of how organized philanthropy does and does not address issues impacting the nonprofit workforce. Inside Philanthropy journalist Dawn Wolfe writes about how funding for living wages and other fundamental matters related to nonprofit staffing. Why should we all be 'following the money'? Why should the hiring crisis not have...
Do Funders Understand the Nonprofit Burnout Crisis? 13.11.2024 1:04:08
As the nonprofit workforce crisis evolves into 2025, how funders respond to nonprofit burnout, compensation, recruitment, and retention challenges will be more important than ever. After a summer and fall hiatus, we’re back with a brand-new season of Fund the People’s Podcast , featuring insightful guests and valuable resources to help you invest in the nonprofit workforce! Even though we haven’t...
Season 7 Trailer 12.11.2024 1:56
We're launching Season 7 of Fund the People: A Podcast with Rusty Stahl tomorrow, Wednesday, Nov. 13! Tune in for interviews with knowledgeable guests as we explore nonprofit workforce funding challenges and success stories.
Funding That Works Academy Launch! Season Finale! 01.05.2024 18:27
In our Season 6 finale episode, we mark Fund the People's 10th anniversary by launching our new initiative: the Funding that Works Academy . This new professional development platform equips funders, nonprofits, and intermediaries with the ideas and tools needed to provide effective funding solutions that advance good nonprofit jobs, and the wellbeing and sustainability of those working in nonprof...
Season 6 Take-Aways PLUS a Special Announcement! 24.04.2024 20:57
In this brief episode, Rusty offers our loyal listeners a special sneak-peek into a new program offering being announced shortly from Fund the People! Don’t miss the inside scoop! Rusty also wraps-up Season 6 by comparing and contrasting stories from some of our amazing guests this season, and offers two key “Aha! moments:” First: when funders invest in the grantee workforce, it can be extremely b...
Place-Based Talent-Investing: Small Scale, Big Value 17.04.2024 1:02:58
This episode makes clear the need for and value of talent-investing for community foundations and other place-focused funders. Our guest, Elizabeth Kidd of the Community Foundation of the Holland/Zeeland Area, demonstrates how even the most modest dollar amounts used in strategic, responsive talent-investing at key inflection points in the lifecycle of leaders and their institutions, can have expo...
Leadership Development and Racial Equity in Nonprofits 11.04.2024 52:15
In this episode, you’ll gain important insights into current issues in the nonprofit workforce, and how professional development is evolving in our sector, particularly but not exclusively as it relates to leaders and workers of color. Our guest is Yolanda Coentro of the Institute for Nonprofit Practice, one of the fastest-growing and most exciting professional development providers for nonprofits...
Happy, Healthy Nonprofit People 03.04.2024 57:43
In today's episode, you'll learn strategies and practical tips for creating happy, healthy, nonprofit workers and workplaces. Our guest Beth Kanter is a leading expert on nonprofit technology and she is co-author of the book Happy, Healthy Nonprofit: Strategies for Impact Without Burnout . You'll learn about tangible tools for preventing burnout at the individual and organizational lev...
Listening to the Nonprofit Workforce 27.03.2024 45:24
Dr. Akilah Watkins is President and CEO of Independent Sector, one of the national organizations that pulls together our sector and represents it in Washington. Dr. Watkins has been on a national listening tour of the nonprofit sector since she took on this leadership role in January 2023. In this episode, she shares what she’s heard about the challenges facing the nonprofit workforce. She also s...
Should We Cancel Capacity-Building? 20.03.2024 41:56
Have you ever thought that funder-sponsored organizational ‘capacity building’ may be detrimental to nonprofit workers and their communities? Today we talk about concrete ways we could improve the framing and practice of capacity building to better support the brilliance and resilience of diverse nonprofit workers and organizations. Today's guests are Melissa DeShields and Marcus Littles from...
Reforming How Oregon Funds Nonprofits 13.03.2024 49:51
This episode offers a powerful example of how funders and nonprofits can collaborate and advocate to reform government contracting, so that it works better for the nonprofit sector and the nonprofit workforce. You’ll learn how Mercedes Elizalde (Board member of the Nonprofit Association of Oregon), Felicita Monteblanco (Northwest Health Foundation) and others teamed up to advocate for state contra...
Getting Retirement Right – Tips for Nonprofit Employers 06.03.2024 56:44
In this episode, you'll get concrete tips for ensuring that nonprofit workers have access to retirement savings from returning guest Chitra Aiyar of Just Futures. Chitra first joined us in Season 3 Episode 10 in December of 2022, when we discussed what's wrong with nonprofit retirement. Today we'll discuss what's right with retirement. This episode is focused on practical appr...
Talent-Investing from Scratch in a 60-Year-Old Nonprofit 28.02.2024 41:57
In this episode, you’ll hear how a new nonprofit executive can start-up innovative investments in employees from scratch, even in a 60-year-old organization with 200 staff. Shaheer Mustafa tells his story about his work at HopeWell, a major foster care nonprofit in Massachusetts. When he took management of the $25 million budget with hundreds of staff, there was no internal capacity that you woul...
How Funders Can Support Nonprofit Workers in the Age of Burnout, Part 3 21.02.2024 52:39
This episode spotlights how one foundation has made an ongoing commitment to supporting “healing justice” as part of its grantmaking. We're pleased to speak with Desiree Flores, Executive Director of the General Service Foundation. As they say on the Foundation's website, "Social justice work can be affirming, invigorating, and nourishing. But for leaders in the struggle, the work ca...
How Funders Can Support Nonprofit Workers in the Age of Burnout, Part 2 14.02.2024 57:50
Today's episode offers a view into how foundation executives can integrate talent-investing deeply into their philanthropic approach and how they can work with grantees in a practical fashion to ensure that they are motivated, incentivized and have the funding they need to pay appropriate thriving wages. This is the second in our special three-part series based on Fund the People's present...
How Funders Can Support Nonprofit Workers in the Age of Burnout, Part 1 07.02.2024 48:17
We’re kicking-off Season 6 with a new 3-part special series, “How Funders Can Support Nonprofit Workers in the Age of Burnout.” It features speakers and topics from a panel discussion hosted by Fund the People at the Center for Effective Philanthropy conference in fall 2023. In this first episode of the series, you'll learn from a foundation executive director who's leading an important ne...
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