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Our good friend Janice Lagata from God Has Not Given joins Gail and Nate for a roundtable conversation discussing the question, "Is Evangelicalism a cult?" In the first part of our conversation, we introduce the topic and touch on Steven Hassan's BITE model of authoritarian control . Links mentioned in the episode: ‘An Evangelical Childhood is a Total Mindfuck’ New Memoir Recounts the...

Producer's note: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault by clergy and child sex abuse by clergy. Listener discretion is advised. Former Hillsong Church member and author of the book People in Glass Houses: An Insider's Story of a Life In and Out of Hillsong Tanya Levin sits down with Gail and Nate to talk about her experience at Hillsong in Australia from its founding and what...

Musician and Co-Host of the podcast Veterans of Culture Wars Zach Malm joins Gail and Nate to share the story of his involvement at the infamous Mars Hill Church and how he helped to bring it down. The wide-ranging conversation delves into his experience with the disgraced pastor Mark Driscoll and the stories that made up the website We Love Mars Hill . You can find all of Zach's podcast, soci...

English professor and author Cynthia Vacca Davis joins Gail and Nate to discuss her new book, Intersexion , Her book tells the dual narrative of Danny, an intersex AFAB man who was born and raised in a conservative Christian environment, and Cynthia herself, facing the forfeiture of her dream job thanks to a Christian university's stance on LGBTQIA+ people. To purchase Cynthia's book, visi...

Educator and writer Jo Luehmann joins Nate and Gail to discuss her work in deconstructing and decolonizing Christianity. The conversation follows a wide range of topics, from harmful practices of the church to adoption and foster care to abortion and education. Jo: •Website | joluehmann.com  •TikTok | @joluehmann •Twitter | @joluehmann •Instagram | @joluehmann •Facebook | fb.com/joluehmann •YouTub...

Gail and Nate reflect on their first set of episodes, talk about what's in the future for the podcast, and give an update on Dauntless Media Collective. Join the Dauntless Media Collective Discord Server by visiting discord.gg/GxmYTRA2US. For more content from our friends, visit dauntless.fm . To join Full Mutuality as a partner, visit our Patreon page at patreon.com/fullmutuality . To give a...

Scott Okamoto, host of the podcast Chapel Probation, joins Nate and Gail to talk about his own faith deconstruction while working as an English professor at the conservative Evangelical school Azusa Pacific University. Scott: •Website: rscottokamoto.com •Podcast: chapelprobation.dauntless.fm •Instagram: @rsokamoto •Twitter: @rsokamoto •Blog Post: "I Don't Miss God. Really!"  •Scott&#39...

Jenn Alynn-Perri joins Gail and Nate for a conversation about how purity culture oppresses healthy sexual expressions and promotes a harmful sexual ethic. Jenn: • Facebook   • Instagram   • Twitter    Resources mentioned in the episode: • Pride Link •S C Upstate LGBT+ Chamber of Commerce •Bored Panda Article: "Victims Who Were Told That Their Clothing Got Them Sexually Assaulted Display What T...

Lance Weldy and Peter Crane join Nate and Gail to discuss their stories of life as gay people at Bob Jones University. Lance's forthcoming book, BJU & Me: Queer Voices from the World's Most Christian University, is a compilation of stories of many LGBTQ+ people who attended the conservative fundamentalist Christian university based in Greenville, SC Pre-order the book: University of Ge...

Kayla Felten, Co-Founder of the Reclamation Collective, joins Nate and Gail to discuss her work in religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and adverse religious experiences, and to talk about reclaiming and rediscovering yourself after having your spiritual identity prescribed for you by others in power over you. Reclamation Collective: web | reclamationcollective.com instagram | @reclamationcollective...

Wes Curtis, a fellow Hillsong NYC survivor with Nate, shares his story of entering Hillsong, how he deconstructed while part of the church, and what his exit was like. Follow us on Twitter at @fullmutual ity , on Facebook at fb.com/fullmutuality , on Instagram at @fullmutuality , and on WordPress at fullmutuality.wordpress.com . Visit fullmutuality.com for more. Full Mutuality is a Dauntless Media...

Producer's note: This episode contains detailed discussions of non-consensual outing, mental health emergencies, and suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised. Noemi Uribe, who was interviewed for the documentary Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed , joins Nate and Gail to tell their story of their time at Hillsong Boston, where they were subjected to a number of spiritually abusive situati...

Janice Lagata continues sharing her thoughts and experiences from her time at Hillsong NYC and discusses what life and advocacy look like after leaving Hillsong and the larger evangelical world. Janice's website: janicelagata.com Janice's podcast: God Has Not Given Hillsong documentary on Discovery+: Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed - Discovery+ Follow us on Twitter at @fullmutual ity , on F...

Janice Lagata, host of the podcast God Has Not Given, joins Gail and Nate to talk about her experience at Hillsong, one of the largest megachurches in the world, and discusses her work building awareness of the abuses at that church while the entire organization crumbles. Janice's website: janicelagata.com Janice's podcast: God Has Not Given Hillsong documentary on Discovery+: Hillsong: A...

Jessica Goforth from the podcast Leaving the Village returns to talk about ATI & ILBP, the cult with which the Duggars—the infamous family from the reality TV show 19 Kids and Counting—are associated. •Jessica's podcast: https://dauntless.fm/podcast/leavingthevillage •The BITE model of Authoritarian Control from Steven Hassan: https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ Follow...

Nate and Gail are joined by Jessica Goforth, one of the hosts of the podcast Leaving the Village and survivor of Bill Gothard's ATI and IBLP cult. She provides a look behind the scenes into the brainwashing and abuse that goes on in this Evangelical Christian cult. •Jessica’s podcast: https://dauntless.fm/podcast/leavingthevillage •Video of ATI student choir: https://youtu.be/LUSgPdX7W78 •Imag...

Canada's capital Ottawa has now been under siege for 3 weeks. Canadian journalist Tabi Wells joins Gail and Nate to discuss how a fringe anti-mandate group of self-proclaimed "freedom fighters" inspired by American alt-right groups have held Canada hostage. How did we get here? Resources mentioned in this episode: This article by CBC explains the Emergencies Act Trudeau invoked. Vox ex...

Gail and Nate sit down to discuss the Asian-American experience in 2021. Special appearance from Glenn Funamoto. Follow us on Twitter at @fullmutual ity , on Facebook at fb.com/fullmutuality , on Instagram at @fullmutuality , and on WordPress at fullmutuality.wordpress.com . Visit fullmutuality.com for more. Join as a partner on Patreon for exclusive content! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy...

Please note: This episode discusses sex abuse by clergy, sexual harassment, and contains a mention of suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised. Lezeth shares her story of sexual harassment by a Hillsong pastor with Nate and Gail as they discuss the kind of culture that perpetuates abuses by evangelical leaders. Resources mentioned in this episode: BBC documentary, Hillsong Church: God Goe...

Gail sits down with Nate and Lezeth as they share a behind-the-scenes look at how Hillsong Church's abusive structures are set up and maintained. Follow us on Twitter at @fullmutual ity , on Facebook at fb.com/fullmutuality , on Instagram at @fullmutuality , and on WordPress at fullmutuality.wordpress.com . Visit fullmutuality.com for more. Join as a partner on Patreon for exclusive content! H...

Part 2 of Gail and Nate's conversation with Christopher Doran, where they discuss the need for churches to be clear on LGBTQ+ participation, healing after church trauma, and hope for a better way of communicating to LGBTQ+ folks whether they'll find a true home in specific churches. Be sure to listen to part 1 of the conversation here . Read Chris' full story at this link . Resources m...

Please note: This episode contains mentions of non-consensual outing, authoritative manipulation, spiritual abuse, and suicidal ideation. Listener discretion is advised. Christopher Doran joins the podcast to share his story of joining a recovery group in a megachurch only to find betrayal, manipulation, and a severe lack of clarity on the topic of LGBTQ+ participation in the church. Read Chris&#3...

Author and musician Rick Pidcock joins the show to share his thoughts on Christianity Today's podcast, "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill," evangelicalism's take on deconstruction and the ex-evangelical phenomenon, and the platforming of former evangelical pastor Josh Harris. You can read Rick's article about CT's podcast and Josh Harris here . Find out more about Rick at his...

Gail and Nate share their thoughts on Christianity Today's podcast The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill and discuss concerns with how their approach to theology, gender roles, and their own relationships with evangelical power brokers prevent them from adequately addressing what went wrong with Mars Hill Church, and what is wrong with Mark Driscoll, the former lead pastor at Mars Hill. Read Dr. Jess...

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