Rob Hopkins
From What If to What Next
If there was ever a time for fresh thinking, for being bold, for being visionary and imaginative – for reimagining everything – this is it. Each episode, writer and Transition Movement founder, Rob Hopkins, invites cutting edge thinkers to visualise a new future. Join us as we ask What If...
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May 1, 2026
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28 - What if we redesigned the operating system of our entire civilisation? 21.06.2021 42:20
The time for imagining that change happens in small, incremental steps is now way behind us. As Naomi Klein says, "there are no non-radical solutions left". Today we are thinking big. Really big. With big thinkers. While some of our episodes focus on what if questions that are quite specific and focused, in this episode, Episode Twenty-Eight, we are thinking big, so hang on to your hats. Luckily w...
27 - What if we all Stopped Flying? 07.06.2021 39:21
This new episode, one of my favourite so far, comes with a challenge. Can you listen to it and not reimagine your own relationship with flying or, as one of our guests puts it, being "twanged around in an aluminium sausage"? I stopped flying in 2006. I travel to the far reaches of Europe on the train, travelling to Sweden, Denmark, Austria, Italy, Mallorca, as the extent of my reach. I long one...
26 - What if we could Live better in a Post-growth Economy? 05.06.2021 46:25
These days of COVID have shown us that extraordinary profound reimagining of many aspects of society are entirely possible. Might this be the time to forever do away with the idea that the only way to measure our progress, cultural, social, spiritual, economic, is purely by how much bigger our economy is than it was last year? It's a weird metric… imagine if that was the only way we assessed the...
25 - What if we Built an Imagination Infrastructure? 03.06.2021 36:59
Let's imagine, and this takes quite a leap in Britain in 2021 I'll grant you, but stay with me, that we had a government who recognised that we are living through a time of imaginative contraction alongside a climate and ecological emergency, a social justice emergency and so much more. Let's imagine that they were able to recognise this as the crisis it is, that allowing a population's imaginat...
24 - What if We Read more Books? 24.05.2021 50:00
When was the last time you read a book cover to cover? And if you are still able to do this, do you feel you read in the same way you did, say, 20 years ago? How is the decline in our collective attention span affecting our ability to read and, by extension, our collective capacity for knowledge, wisdom and art? What do we lose when we lose our ability to focus? This was such a fascinating convers...
23: What if Street Art could Transform the World? 09.05.2021 40:45
Today we are looking at street art. Street art has stood alongside the fight for climate justice, the Black Lives Matter revolution, and pretty much every mass uprising for change through history. But is it just decoration? Or does it have the power to deeply shift a culture? To fire the collective imagination? And what if it was everywhere? I am joined today by two incredible, insightful, passi...
22 - What if we Learned to Embrace Failure? 07.05.2021 34:23
This week we are exploring failure. More precisely, what if we were able to create a culture in which failure is embraced, celebrated even, rather than feared, avoided or ridiculed? What would society look like if we embraced failure in politics, education, economics and everyday life, indeed if we learned from a young age that failure was just as important as success? There's a great What If ques...
21 - What if Dynasties of Private Wealth Reimagined Their Relationship to Money? 06.05.2021 31:22
It was recently announced that Chuck Feeney, the Irish American former airport duty free shopping entrepreneur who was worth $8bn, had, at the age of 89, succeeded in his goal of giving away all of his money to initiatives working to make the world a better place. Every cent. He suggested that to give away a huge fortune was far more fun than holding onto it. He once wrote "to those wondering abou...
20 - What if we Addressed the Trauma that Lies Beneath the World's Problems? 05.05.2021 1:04:28
Today we are exploring the question of trauma, and I must confess that recording this conversation rather blew my mind, as it will no doubt blow yours. I had to lie down afterward and digest it for a while. I am joined by two amazing thinkers for this conversation. I hope you love it. Susan Raffo is a bodyworker, cultural worker and writer. For the last 15 years she has focused her work through th...
19 - What if We Rewrote the National Curriculum Based on Permaculture Principles? 12.04.2021 47:48
By now, in this journey into 'From What If to What Next', it is clear that one of the key things in our world in 2021 that needs reimagining is our education system. In this episode, we explore how it might be if at the heart of that reimagining were permaculture principles. How would the underpinning of the National Curriculum with permaculture principles affect both what is taught, and how it is...
18 - What if a Revolution in Relation to Land Unlocked a Revolution of the Imagination? 29.03.2021 34:56
Our far-reaching conversation, which could have gone on for hours, explores our relationship with land, and how a reimagining of that could unlock so much. My thanks to both of my guests for their generosity and wisdom. Josina Calliste is a health professional, community organiser, and one of the co-founders of Land in Our Names (LION), a black-led collective addressing land inequalities affecti...
17 - What if Indigenous Wisdom Could Save the World? 15.03.2021 56:17
Of all the 17 episodes of this podcast so far, this is the one that I had to go off somewhere quiet afterwards for a while to digest. It is a very powerful and fascinating discussion. My two guests are extraordinary, and I feel so blessed that they could make the time to join me in this wonderful What If exploration. Sherri Mitchell (Weh'na Ha'mu' Kwasset (She Who Brings the Light)) is an attorn...
16 - What if We Took Play Seriously? 01.03.2021 48:19
Play is a devalued aspect of both childhood and adulthood which has been declining now for decades, and its decline has had many knock-on effects across society. What would it be like if we decided to give it a huge boost, to create the ideal conditions for a re-emergence of play across education, economics, planning, and so much more? What might that look like? I am joined in this episode by tw...
15 - What if We Learned to Love Weeds? 15.02.2021 39:33
During the first Coronavirus lockdown in the UK, a strange phenomenon was seen in towns and cities across the country. As councils became unable, or unwilling, to maintain their usual programmes of spraying weeds and cutting grass, pavements began to feature what had previously been dismissed as 'weeds'. In response, and using a hashtag #MoreThanWeeds , people began using chalk to circle them and...
14 - What if We Were to Respond to the Debt Crisis with Art and Playfulness? 02.02.2021 47:40
One of the things we love most here at 'From What If to What Next' is stories of people bringing imagination to their activism, of impactful, thought-provoking projects that engage our imagination and our playfulness. One of the very best examples of this that we've ever seen is The Bank Job in Walthamstow, London, the work of printmaker Hilary Powell and filmmaker Dan Edelstyn, once described as...
13 - What If Governments Factored Future Generations Into Law and Policy? 04.01.2021 50:53
We live in a world where so much political decision-making seems to be based on short-term thinking, the next opinion poll, next quarter, next election, yet so many of the problems we face are the result of our failing to think in the long term. We use the future as a place to dump the problems we can't resolve, to dump our pollution, carbon emissions, the thorny issues we'd rather avoid. Indigeno...
12 - What If Criminal Justice Resources Were Instead Invested Into Communities of Colour? 21.12.2020 38:59
In the US, as elsewhere, vast amounts of money are poured into mass incarceration and brutal and violent policing. What if instead that money was invested into the communities that bear the burnt of this approach to criminal justice, into healthcare, wellbeing, opportunity, safety? Andrea J. Ritchie is a Black lesbian immigrant police misconduct attorney and organizer whose writing, litigation,...
11 - What If We Had The Skills and Abilities To Talk To Decision Makers? 07.12.2020 45:21
So many of those who listen to this podcast are trying, in one way or another, to bring about change in the world. Whether it is the more confrontational activism demonstrated by groups like Extinction Rebellion and Black Lives Matter, or grassroots organising and working to build the alternative, we are all trying to understand how to be the most effective activists we can possibly be. Which le...
10 - What If We Decolonised Education? 01.11.2020 44:17
The uprising of Black Lives Matter and other organisations have led to many calls for the decolonisation of education at every level. But what does it mean to decolonise education? As Boris Johnson dismisses such calls as a "national orgy of self-embarrassment", does decolonising education mean simply changing the curriculum, or does it go much, much deeper than that? And what if we achieved it? W...
9 - What If We Lived In A Wellbeing Economy? 01.11.2020 57:10
Here is Episode Nine. Our question this time was slightly adapted from one sent in by subscriber Pamela Barnes. As the world attempts to claw its way back from the COVID19 pandemic, and as opinion polls show an overwhelming support for not 'going back' to how things were before, people are increasingly discussing and exploring new models for an economy that better needs the needs of the population...
8 - What If Communities Had Spaces Where They Could Come Together To Imagine? 01.11.2020 44:17
In this episode we are exploring a question sent in by subscriber Joy Cherkaoui. One of the things a future in which imagination is able to flourish will need is spaces in which imagination and creativity are invited. Intentionally. These can take many forms, but we need them. What then are the ingredients of such spaces? What makes a good one? Who gets to create them? How can we ensure that they...
7 - What If Every City Used Doughnut Economics? 31.10.2020 47:24
Doughnut Economics is rapidly moving from the fringe to the mainstream. Amsterdam in Holland was recently confirmed as the first 'Doughnut City', using the model to underpin its economic development strategy. Many other cities are also moving towards adopting this powerful and fascinating tool for reimagining cities and their economies. Our question in this episode, your mind-expanding piece of su...
6 - What If Imagination Were a Universal Basic Right? 31.10.2020 47:36
Allow me to present one of my very favourite episodes of 'From What If to What Next' thus far. The question we explore in this episode is 'What if imagination were a universal right?' My guests to explore this are Ariane Conrad, writer, activist and 'book doula' (editorial consultant and collaborative author) who tends to collaborate with authors who defend the rights of people and planet, and Dr....
5 -What If We Treated People At The End Of Their Lives With The Same Reverence, Love, and Care As We Do At The Beginning? 31.10.2020 29:13
As we start, hopefully, to emerge from the COVID-19 pandemic, which has disproportionately affected older people, many people have experienced an end to their lives that was lonely and traumatic. How different would the world feel if its priorities had changed to being one where the end of life was treated with the same love and reverence as birth? My two guests for this episode are Mike Grenvill...
2 - What if a Universal Basic Income Sparked a Revival of the Imagination? 20.07.2020 44:26
In this podcast, we're talking about Universal Basic Income with Alexis Frasz , researcher and cultural strategist with Helicon Collaborative , and Phil Teer , author of ' The Coming Age of Imagination '. What would it be like to live in a world in which UBI was now an integral part of everyday life? How would life, and the world around us feel different? How might we re-frame UBI as a vital...
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