Jason Shafton
Frank Growth
Frank Growth is a sharp, execution-first podcast about how companies actually grow. Hosted by Jason Shafton, it features candid conversations with founders, operators, and investors who are in the work right now. The focus is real decisions: distribution, demand, pricing, org design, incentives, and what breaks once the early playbooks stop working. No hype. No recycled advice. Just clear thinking from people accountable for outcomes.
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Jason Shafton
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Sep 29, 2026
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Episodes
Why Billionaires Pay Him a Retainer with Leigh Rowan 07.04.2026 25:48
Episode #214: Leigh Rowan — Building a premium service business without ads How to grow a premium service business through trust, referrals, and client retention. For founders and operators building high-touch services and trying to scale without paid acquisition. Leigh Rowan, founder and CEO of Savanti Travel, joins Jason Shafton to break down how he built a luxury travel management company servi...
Buy a SaaS, Skip the Startup with Doug Breaker 31.03.2026 22:24
Episode #213: Doug Breaker — Buying a SaaS instead of building from zero How to acquire a profitable SaaS with minimal upfront capital. For operators considering ownership but hesitant to start from scratch. Doug Breaker, CEO of Shoeboxed and former CEO of MD Hearing Aid, explains why he chose to buy a 20-year-old SaaS company instead of building one. After running an eight-figure DTC business, he...
Getting Your Mind Right for Growth with Dan Kessler 24.03.2026 26:15
Episode #212: Dan Kessler — Building organic growth beyond paid acquisition How to build consumer app growth without defaulting to paid media. For founders and operators scaling consumer subscription apps and looking for durable growth levers. Dan Kessler joins Jason Shafton to break down how he thinks about consumer growth across partnerships, product loops, and app portfolio strategy. Drawing on...
Kill the CMO Role with Elia Wallen 17.03.2026 18:10
Episode #211: Elia Wallen — Building a $2B travel platform by serving SMBs How a founder built a multi-billion dollar company in an overlooked market. For operators deciding whether to chase hype markets or serve ignored customers. Elia Wallen is the founder and CEO of Engine, a business travel platform that grew out of his earlier company Travelers Haven. What started as a corporate housing servi...
The Art & Science of Product Marketing with Seif Salama 10.03.2026 23:01
Episode #210: Seif Salama — Why most product marketing fails to drive revenue Product marketing only matters if it changes pipeline, adoption, or retention. This episode is for founders, PMMs, and operators trying to make product marketing actually impact growth. Seif Salama joins Jason Shafton to break down what product marketing really does when it works. Seif has led product marketing across co...
Data Systems Designed for Scale with Pat Ryan 03.03.2026 19:28
HTML Episode #209: Pat Ryan — Building loyalty systems that protect margins How to design data systems that actually drive business outcomes. For operators building analytics, loyalty, or AI initiatives under real constraints. Pat Ryan, with experience at Discover, Organizing for Action, and United Airlines, joins Jason to break down what “data systems designed for growth” actually means in practi...
How to Build a World-Class Sales Motion with Lindsay Crittendon 24.02.2026 22:15
Episode #208: Lindsay Crittendon — Build a repeatable revenue system without spam Outbound email is an impression now—not a response channel. For seed to Series C revenue leaders building a real funnel and motion. Lindsay Crittendon (CRO, Taylor Bird) breaks down how to build revenue strategy that persists—grounded in how customers actually use your product, not heroics. She explains why the first...
Designing Serendipity with Kushagra Shrivastava 17.02.2026 20:00
Episode #207: Kushagra Shrivastava - Engineering serendipity in community and events How to design events where the right people actually meet and follow through. For founders and operators building communities, networks, or community-led growth. Kushagra Shrivastava is a builder and community investor behind Zoogler, a 40,000+ ex-Google alumni network. He explains how he defines “serendipity” as...
How to Write Like a Human with Steve Dennis 10.02.2026 20:17
Episode #206: Steve Dennis — How to Write Like a Human in the Age of AI AI can generate endless copy. The new bar is making someone feel something. This episode is for founders, marketers, and anyone who writes for a living and wants their work to connect. Steve Dennis is a writer and ghostwriter who has shaped voices the world knows—including Andy Puddicombe at Headspace. Jason and Steve go back...
From Audience to Community with Jordan DiPietro 03.02.2026 15:06
Episode #205: Jordan DiPietro — How to Turn an Audience Into a Community That Compounds Growth Most companies stop at audience. This episode shows you how to build community that creates its own pipeline. For founders and operators who want retention, not just reach. Jordan DiPietro has built audience-to-community flywheels at The Motley Fool, The Hustle (inside HubSpot), and as CEO of Hampton. In...
I Hate Sales with John Kennelly 27.01.2026 20:20
Episode #204: John Kennelly — Founders who hate sales still have to sell If sales feels intrusive, this episode reframes it as problem-solving. Built for founders avoiding sales calls, decks, and outreach. John Kennelly, Founder of I Hate Sales, works with founders who have never had a sales job and actively avoid selling. In this episode, he explains why sales fear is usually a mindset problem, n...
Acquisitions and Inorganic Growth with Trevor Houghton 20.01.2026 10:35
Episode #203: Trevor Houghton — How to buy growth without risking cash How founders use acquisitions to grow without betting the company. For operators considering their first inorganic deal. Trevor Houghton is CEO of Pass Galleries and a former private equity and corporate development operator. He breaks down how founders can use acquisitions to increase enterprise value without overextending cap...
How Investors Think About Growth with John Connolly 13.01.2026 14:32
John Connolly - Make your growth story hold up in investor diligence How to present growth so it is defensible, measurable, and scalable. For founders raising and operators building board-ready growth reporting. John Connolly is a Managing Director at Spectrum Equity, and he explains what he expects to see when a company tells a growth story at the growth equity stage. He covers why founders often...
Building Your Growth Operating System with Cait Anderson 06.01.2026 18:36
Episode #201: Cait Anderson — Building trust into a repeatable growth system Trust breaks faster than funnels. This episode is for operators trying to make growth predictable without killing speed. Cait Anderson is Chief Marketing Officer at Winston Francois. In this conversation, she and Jason unpack what actually makes a growth system sustainable: predictable returns, clear operating rhythm, and...
How to Fix Healthcare and Other Bad Words 30.08.2024 47:20
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox explore the intricacies of business and personal growth. In this episode, they interview Hank and Carly Schlissberg. Hank is the CEO of Evio Pharmacy Solutions , and Carly is a stay-at-home mom to their three daughters. Hank and Carly discuss their experiences as parents and entrepreneurs, sharing insights...
Up All Night To Get Lucky 26.07.2024 54:13
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox explore the intricacies of business and personal growth. In this episode, they interview Brian and Sam Rose, husband and wife duo and partners in Mvnifest , a single platform to manage your commerce operations, from concept to customer. Brian and Sam met in college and have been growing businesses and peop...
From Vegas to HomeLife 28.06.2024 27:24
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox explore the intricacies of business and personal growth. In this episode, they interview Jessica and Marshall Morris, husband and wife duo and partners in HomeLife brands. They discuss the importance of relationships in business and parenting and the need to understand and support individuality. They also...
Father's Day Special: Uncommon Dad Truths 14.06.2024 38:51
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox explore the intricacies of business and personal growth. In this special Father’s Day episode, Jason flies solo and interviews Nick Aubin, the co-founder and CEO of Commons Clinic , about his experience as a dad and an entrepreneur. They discuss the challenges of balancing work and family life, the importa...
Take a Trip on the Othership 31.05.2024 1:04:42
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox explore the intricacies of business and personal growth. In this episode, they engage in a fascinating conversation with Robbie and Emily Bent, the visionary co-founders of Othership . Othership is not just a platform, it's a transformative concept that combines a physical space and a mobile app. It...
Growing a Business and People 30.04.2024 24:00
Welcome to Frank Growth, the podcast where husband and wife duo Jason Shafton and Alyssa Fox delve deep into the complexities of business and personal growth. In episode one, Jason and Alyssa open up about the intricacies of balancing work, life, and parenthood. They talk about some of the advice they have gotten that was “total bullshit,” and share the unique and creative way they decided to cele...
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