Frame and Reference Podcast

Frame & Reference Podcast

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Frame & Reference is a conversation between Cinematographers hosted by Kenny McMillan. Each episode dives into the respective DP's current and past work, as well as what influences and inspires them. These discussions are an entertaining and informative look in to the world making films through the lens of the people who shoot them.

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Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

EPISODE 150 SPECIAL w/ "Unsung Hero" DP Johnny Derango 11.07.2024

Episode 150! What a journey it's been so far. To celebrate, I went to visit my friend and first guest of the pod Johnny Derango to be educated on some top-shelf bourbons and talk about his new film Unsung Hero. It's double the length of a normal episode and as such, double the fun! Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&am...

149: "Frasier" 2023 DP Gary Baum, ASC 04.07.2024

Huzzah! This week on the pod we've got Gary Baum, ASC here to talk about his work on the Frasier reboot, which is fascinating because he's worked almost exclusively on some of the best multi-cam shows ever made and I never really talk to multi-cam folks so it's very educational, at least for me. Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for...

148: "Bridgerton" Season 3 DP Alicia Robbins 30.06.2024

Sorry for the delay (I was traveling for work) but this week we're lucky enough to have Alicia Robbins on the program to talk about her work on Bridgerton Season 3! Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R ⁠You can now support Frame & Reference directly on Patreon!⁠ Frame & Reference is supported by Filmtools and ProVi...

147: "Mary & George" DP Alexander Dynan 20.06.2024

This week I'm excited to be joined by Alexander Dynan to talk about his work on the Starz show Mary & George ! His previous work includes incredible projects like The Card Counter, Billions, and First Reformed. Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can now support Frame & Reference directly on Patreon! Frame &...

146: "Death & Other Details" Production Designer James Philpott 13.06.2024

Changing it up a bit this week! We've got Production Designer James Philpott on to talk about his work on the recent Hulu show "Death and Other Details" as well as his previous work on films like one of my old favorites "The Sixth Day" Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly support Frame &amp...

145: "Masters of the Air" DP Jac Fitzgerald 06.06.2024

This week I'm proud to welcome Jac Fitzgerald, DP of "Masters of the Air" to the program! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly support Frame & Reference by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buying Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Frame & Reference is supported by Filmtools...

144: "Sugar" DP Richard Rutkowski, ASC 30.05.2024

This week on the program we're privileged to have Richard Rutkowski, ASC on to talk about his work on the Apple TV+ show "Sugar" on top of a whole heap of knowledge. You're not gonna want to miss this one! Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly support Frame & Reference by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

143: "Constellation" DP Markus Forderer, ASC BVK 23.05.2024

This week on the program we've got the wonderful and lovely Markus Forderer, ASC BVK on to talk about his work on the Apple TV+ show Constellation! Selected as one of Variety's 10 Stars behind the Cameras, the German born cinematographer who graduated from University of Television and Film in Munich, has quickly developed an impressive resume of visually unique and critical acclaimed featu...

142: Watchmen, 300, Super 8 etc. w/ Larry Fong, ASC 16.05.2024

Today I'm thrilled to welcome my good friend Larry Fong, ASC to the pod to talk about his incredible body of work but almost more importantly, our shared love of the art of Magic. Not only is Larry in the ASC but he's also a member of the Academy of Magical Arts right across the street from the ASC clubhouse at the Magic Castle, a two-fer that I consider to be the home run of creative memb...

141: "Blackout" DP Collin Brazie 09.05.2024

Today we've got the wonderful Collin Brazie on the program to talk about his work on the new film "Blackout" that just released in April. Collin is a Director of Photography (ICG – Local 600) who specializes in narrative, documentary and branded content. He received his MFA (Film Production—Cinematography) from the Dodge College of Film and Media Arts at Chapman University. He has le...

140: "The Gutter" DP Veronica Bouza 02.05.2024

Today I'm privileged to have Veronica Bouza on the program to talk about her work on the new film "The Gutter"! Veronica is a Director of Photography originally from Los Angeles, California, whose work spans narrative, commercial, and documentary. She moved up the ranks through crewing as an IATSE 476 electrician and an IATSE 600 camera assistant and received her MFA from the America...

139: "Shotcraft" w/ Jay Holben 25.04.2024

Today I'm thrilled to have my friend Jay Holben back to talk about his new book Shotcraft. A former cinematographer, Jay is an author of three books on cinematography, a contributing technical editor for American Cinematographer Magazine , faculty instructor for Global Cinematography Institute and international lecturer, an Associate member of the ASC and the chair/co-chair of several of the A...

138: Michael Cioni, CEO & Founder of Strada 18.04.2024

Today we're joined by my friend Michael Cioni to talk about his new company Strada. Michael is a serial entrepreneur who's career includes numerous awards for his creative work and technical achievements. He is an accomplished director, cinematographer, musician, four-time Emmy winner, member of the Motion Picture Academy, and Associate Member of the American Society of Cinematographers. A...

137: "The Gentlemen" DP Callan Green, ACS NZCS 12.04.2024

Today we've got the fantastic Callan Green on the program to talk about his work on the Netflix series "The Gentlemen" by Guy Ritchie. Callan is a New Zealand born, prolific award-winning Director of Photography with over 25 years of experience in the camera department. He specialises in Features and TV Series with an additional passion for automotive commercials and music promos. Pr...

136: "Drugstore June" DP Sherri Kauk 04.04.2024

Today we're joined by the wonderful Sherri Kauk, DP of "Drugstore June" starring a star-studded cast lead by Esther Povitsky featuring Bobby Lee, Beverly D'Angelo, James Remar, and Haley Joel Osment. Her first scripted series, season 3 and 4 of CBS' The Inspectors, garnered her an Emmy Award for Lighting Design.  There, she also directed her first network episode, 'Scam S...

135: "Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction" DP Nick Ramsey 28.03.2024

Nick Ramsey is the DP of the new season of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction featuring Jonathan Frakes. Nick received a scholarship to attend the MFA filmmaking program at Chapman University.  There he learned the true art of bringing stories to life from masters like Bill Dill, ASC and Johnny Jensen, ASC.  His hard work and collaboration on multiple projects earned recognition from the Academy of Mo...

134: "Girls State" DP Laela Kilbourn 21.03.2024

Laela Kilbourn has accumulated feature credits including Best Cinematography award winner SWIM TEAM, and eight Sundance Film Festival documentary premieres, such as Apple Original Films’ GIRLS STATE; the DuPont-Columbia Journalism Award winner THIS IS HOME: A REFUGEE STORY; Peabody Award winning HOW TO DANCE IN OHIO; and Emmy nominated WORD WARS. She also shot SYNC OR SWIM, winner of the Billie Aw...

133: "Criminal Record" DP Laurent Bares 14.03.2024

Laurent Bares is here this week to talk about his work on the new Apple TV+ show Criminal Record! Laurent became a DP in 1993 and photographed his first feature film in 1996. Since then, he has been behind the camera in more than 500 commercials all around the world and has worked on powerful horror movies (Inside, Frontiers, The Divide), action films (Hitman, Overdrive), and TV shows (Braquo, Cro...

132: "Still: A Michael J Fox Movie" DP C. Kim Miles, ASC CSC MYSC 07.03.2024

C. Kim Miles is here to talk about his work on one of my favorite docs in recent years "Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie"! There's some crazy good reenactments in it if you haven't seen it, highly recommend seeking it out. Kim also shot episodes of The Brothers Sun, Yellowjackets, Project Blue Book, The Flash, Lost in Space, as well as the film "Welcome to Marwen". Enjoy!...

131: "Origin" DP Matthew Lloyd, ASC CSC 29.02.2024

Today we've got another incredible DP in the form of Matthew Lloyd, here to talk about his work on Ava DuVernay's wonderful new film Origin! They shot it on 16mm over a handful of continents in 37 days, making it a triumph of filmmaking in any capacity. You're gonna love this one! Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly support Frame...

130: "Ferrari" DP Erik Messerschmidt, ASC 22.02.2024

Our third ever returning guest and a crowd favorite, Erik Messerschmidt, ASC is here! In this episode we talk about his work on Michael Mann's "Ferrari" as well as David Fincher's "The Killer" Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly support Frame & Reference by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buying Me a Coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

129: "Percy Jackson" DP Pierre Gill, CSC 15.02.2024

This week we've got the wonderful Pierre Gill, CSC on to talk about his work on the Disney+ show "Percy Jackson & The Olympians"! Pierre Gill C.S.C. is a Canadian cinematographer and film and television director. A Montreal native, he is closely associated with Quebecois cinema, and has collaborated with directors like Jean-Marc Vallée, Charles Binamé, Christian Duguay, Allan Moy...

128: "The Creator" DP Oren Soffer 08.02.2024

You're gonna love this one, we've got Oren Soffer on the pod this week to talk about his work on The Creator and oh so much more! On top of its worldwide theatrical release, The Creator screened as part of the 2023 Energa Camerimage film festival, was on the shortlist for Best Cinematography at the BAFTAs, and has been nominated for two Academy Awards. On top of shooting hundreds of incred...

127: "Lessons in Chemistry" DP Jason Oldak 01.02.2024

This week on F&R we're joined by Jason Oldak to talk about his work on the Apple TV+ show Lessons in Chemistry starring Brie Larson! Jason’s career includes work on many award-winning TV series, including Hulu and Onyx Collective’s UnPrisoned, starring Kerry Washington and Delroy Lindo; Max’s Minx, created by Ellen Rapoport and starring Ophelia Lovibond and Jake Johnson; and two seasons of...

126: "American Fiction" DP Cristina Dunlap 25.01.2024

Today we've got the wonderful Cristina Dunlap on the program to talk about her work on American Fiction! Cristina's previous work includes music videos for Lizzo (Juice!), Brandi Carlile, Coldplay, and Saweetie, as well as a host of fantastic commercials and short films which you can find on her website. Enjoy! Visit ⁠⁠⁠www.frameandrefpod.com⁠⁠⁠ for everything F&R You can directly supp...

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