Frame and Reference Podcast
Frame & Reference Podcast
Frame & Reference is a conversation between Cinematographers hosted by Kenny McMillan. Each episode dives into the respective DP's current and past work, as well as what influences and inspires them. These discussions are an entertaining and informative look in to the world making films through the lens of the people who shoot them.
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Jul 9, 2026
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20: “Shiva Baby” DP Maria Rusche 10.06.2021 1:01:31
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Maria Rusche about the SXSW 2020 select “Shiva Baby.” Maria has shot 2 seasons of the Showtime series “Couples Therapy” and is about to debut the film “Dating and New York” at Tribeca Film Festival 2021. Maria is also an adjunct professor at the NYU Tisch School of Arts where she teaches cinematography. Enjoy...
19: “Halston” DP Tim Ives, ASC 03.06.2021 1:07:05
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with cinematographer Tim Ives, ASC about the new Netflix series “Halston.” New to Netflix, “Halston” tells the story of a man who leverages his single, invented name into a worldwide fashion empire that's synonymous with luxury, sex, status and fame, literally defining the era. Outside of this series, you likely recognize Tim name...
18: “Bridgerton” DP Jeffrey Jur, ASC 27.05.2021 58:33
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Jeffrey Jur, ASC about the hit Netflix series "Bridgerton." Jeffery is a very prolific DP having shot the 1987 classic “Dirty Dancing” as well as episodes of “Westworld”, “Dexter”, “Halt and Catch Fire”, and “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.” In addition to those amazing credits, Jeffrey has won two Emmys for his wo...
17: “Don’t Peek” DP Julian Terry 20.05.2021 1:11:28
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with writer, director and cinematographer Julian Terry about his film “Don’t Peek.” Nominated for the SXSW Grand Jury Award, “Don’t Peek” follows a young woman who discovers a frightening video game character intent on crossing into the real world. Make sure to check out his IMDb for more info on Julians work! Julian’s IMDb: https...
16: “Them” DP Checco Varese, ASC 13.05.2021 1:09:42
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Checco Varese, ASC about the new Amazon series “Them.” In this fascinating conversation, Checco talks about his path from being an architect in Peru to shooting shows like “True Blood” and “Tom Clancy’s Jack Ryan” and films like “The 33” and “It Chapter Two.” Enjoy the episode and make sure to check out “Them”...
15: "I Would've Loved You” (Jake Hoot ft. Kelly Clarkson) DP Jack Schurman 06.05.2021 1:08:28
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with cinematographer Jack Schurman about the Jake Hoot and Kelly Clarkson music video “I Would’ve Loved You.” Jake has DP'd a few shows including “Unnatural Selection” and “QB1: Beyond the Lights.” Jakes other work includes the TV documentary “MARS: Inside SpaceX” and “Wild Home”, a film for which he was nominated for Best Document...
14: “Billie Eilish: The World’s A Little Blurry” DP Jenna Rosher 29.04.2021 54:16
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with Jenna Rosher about DP'ing the new documentary “Billie Eilish: The World’s A Little Blurry.” In this new Apple TV+ show we get an intimate look at Billie Eilish’s journey as she navigated life on the road, on stage and at home all while creating her debut album. Jenna has shot a number of music documentaries including “Dave Ma...
13: “Boys State” DP Thorsten Theilow 22.04.2021 56:57
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Thorsten Theilow about the Sundance Grand Jury Prize winning documentary “Boys State.” The documentary follows a thousand 17-year-old boys from Texas who join together to build a representative government from the ground up. Some of Thorsten’s credits include the films “Robin Williams: Come Inside My Mind...
12: “Assassins” DP John Benam 15.04.2021 1:06:14
Welcome back to the Frame & Reference Podcast, this week Kenny talks with two time Emmy winner John Benam about the documentary “Assassins.” “Assassins” is an account of the two women convicted of assassinating Kim Jong-un's half-brother, Kim Jong-nam. John won his Emmy’s for his worked on “Untamed Americas” and “Great Migrations." He is also the DP for the upcoming documentary "Rocket to Venu...
11: “Together Together” DP Frank Barrera 08.04.2021 1:10:03
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with “Together Together” cinematographer Frank Barrera. You might have seen Franks work on shows like “Reno 911!”, “Children’s Hospital”, “The Mindy Project” and much more. You can see Franks full filmography on his IMDb page . Liking the podcast? Leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast app! Frame & Reference is sup...
10: “Users” DP Bennett Cerf 01.04.2021 1:38:47
On this weeks episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with "Users" cinematographer Bennett Cerf. “Users” is a documentary that explores how humanity expresses itself with technology and the intended and unintended consequences of our tech dominated world. Outside of his doc work, Bennett has also worked on a number of big time films including as a AC on “Iron Man 2” and “X2: X-Men...
9: “Searchers” DPs Daniel Claridge & Martin Dicicco 25.03.2021 1:05:06
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with cinematographers Daniel Claridge & Martin Dicicco about the documentary "Searchers." To learn more about Daniel & Martin, check out their IMDb pages below: Daniel Claridge IMDb Martin Dicicco IMDb Liking the podcast? Leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast app! Frame & Reference is supported by Film...
8: “Lenox Hill” DP Bryant Fisher 18.03.2021 1:02:17
This week on the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Bryant Fisher about his work on the Netflix documentary “Lenox Hill.” This documentary series give viewers an intimate look at the lives of four doctors as they navigate the highs and lows of working at the renowned Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City. To learn more about Bryants filmography, check out his IMDb page...
7: "Rebel Hearts" Production Team 11.03.2021 1:03:15
Welcome to another episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast! This week Kenny talks with Director Pedro Kos, Producer Judy Korin, Animator Una Lorenzen and DP Emily Topper about the Sundance documentary "Rebel Hearts." The film spotlights a trailblazing group of nuns who bravely stood up to the patriarchy of the Catholic Church, fighting for equality, their livelihoods, and their own freedom ag...
6: “Son of Monarchs” DP Alejandro Mejia 04.03.2021 31:10
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with cinematographer Alejandro Mejia about the Alfred P. Sloan Prize winning Sundance film "Son of Monarchs." Utilizing the Arri ALEXA Mini, anamorphic glass and as much natural light as possible, Alejandro and director Alexis Gambis craft a stunning film worthy of a watch when it becomes available. Check out Alejandro's IMDb for h...
5: “At The Ready” DP & Director Maisie Crow 25.02.2021 28:36
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast Kenny talks with Maisie Crow about her documentary “At The Ready.” Nominated for the Grand Jury Prize at this years Sundance Film Festival, “At The Ready” follows a group of high school seniors living in a town near the US/ Mexico border as they train to become police officers and Border Patrol agents. Maisie was also the DoP for the documenta...
4: “9-1-1: Lone Star" DP Andy Strahorn 18.02.2021 50:51
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Andy Strahorn about his work on “9-1-1: Lone Star.” Originally from Australia, Andy has worked on numerous shows including episode of “Fear the Walking Dead”, “Lethal Weapon”, and “Justified.” Enjoy the episode! Liking the podcast? Leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast app! Frame & Reference i...
3: “Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom" DP Tobias Schliessler, ASC 11.02.2021 1:09:50
On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with cinematographer Tobias Schliessler, ASC about the new Netflix film "Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom." Tobias has quite the filmography including “Beauty and the Beast”, “Lone Survivor”, “Friday Night Lights”, “Hancock” and much more. Make sure to check out his IMDb for a full rundown of his work and enjoy the episode! Liking the pod...
2: "Nomadland" DP Josh Richards 01.02.2021 49:58
Welcome back to the Frame & Reference Podcast. This week join Kenny for his conversation with cinematographer Josh Richards as they talk about Josh's latest film "Nomadland." In 2019, Josh was nominated for a ASC Spotlight award for his work on "The Rider." You might know Josh from his work on "God's Own Country." For his full filmography, check out his IMDb page: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4...
1: "Fatman" DP Johnny Derango 29.01.2021 54:23
Welcome to the Frame & Reference Podcast! In each episode cinematographer Kenny McMillan talks to working Cinematographers about their influences, interests, traditions, and techniques, centered around the project they've most recently shot. These talks are relatively unstructured, but aim to be as educational as they are entertaining. Each episode explores the ways each DP achieves the l...
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