Fourth Wall: the podcast

You’ve seen her make her Broadway debut in  The Notebook , and now she’s swimming into history as Ariel in  The Little Mermaid  at Paper Mill Playhouse — but Hillary Fisher is doing so much more than just singing under the sea. In this episode, we dive deep with Hillary about what it means to break the mold as a Black woman in theatre, how to hold your ground when the industry pushes back, and why...

Money! Everybody needs it, but everyone hates talking about it. Let’s dive in with our special guest and host of Artistic Finance , Ethan Steimel! Want to know more?  Don't just read about it— press play  to dive into today's episode.  Check out Ethan’s podcast and website to get all those amazing resources and even more gems! https://www.artisticfinance.com/resources.html Entertainment Co...

🧠 Is it time to move to London? And NO this is not just because I am binging Bridgerton for the 10th time...  Want to know more?  Don't just read about it— press play  to dive into today's episode.  ✍🏽 Read Along (or instead):  Prefer to skim instead of stream? Check out the episode’s SparkNotes on Substack: 📩⁠https://thisisfourthwall.substack.com/⁠ 📣 Got thoughts or stories to share?...

new episodes weekly on Spotify, Apple & more 🧠  Who needs to take the A train to Pearl Studios when Telsey can watch that TikTok you made in your room...  Want to know more?  Don't just read about it— press play  to dive into today's episode.  ✍🏽 Read Along (or instead):  Prefer to skim instead of stream? Check out the episode’s SparkNotes on Substack: 📩 ⁠https://thisisfourthwall.su...

new episodes weekly on Spotify, Apple & more Skip to 03:28 to miss all of my ramblings about being back! 🧠 We’re breaking the fourth wall on theatre’s biggest conversations, and this one’s no exception. This dream is EXPENSIVE and sometimes the winners are the ones who had enough dollars to stay in the game... Want to know more? Don't just read about it— press play to dive into today'...

Welcome back to a star-studded new episode of Fourth Wall! *disclaimer this was recorded before the recent announcements of COVID-related shutdowns so we don’t talk about it* Today, Alaina and Corey catch up and recap 2021. It’s been a YEAR YALL! Corey is in NYC and thriving, Alaina is MOVING to NYC with a new job at Playbill. Plus, you KNOW we had to talk about the Broadway news we missed. Tony A...

Welcome back to a star-studded new episode of Fourth Wall! Today, Alaina and Corey sit with Brandon Michael Nase, performer and Founder/Executive Director of Broadway For Racial Justice. Brandon talks with the 4W gang about why he felt compelled to start BFRJ, how they are using social media to promote social justice, and why we need to stop just talking about Broadway, when we are discussing equi...

Welcome back to a star-studded new episode of Fourth Wall! Today, Alaina and Corey sit with Drew Shade, performer and founder of Broadway Black, the ONLY media platform for artists of color in theatre. Drew talks with the 4W team about intention, living in the moment, and the importance of pushing yourself. Do you have an experience to share about Representation in the Arts  or any of the other to...

Welcome back to Fourth Wall the podcast! Happy New Year! Let’s hope 2021 acts RIGHT! Today, we sat with the actress, songbird, filmmaker, producer, PRINCESS AMBER IMAN! We talked about life, racism, not rushing your destiny, and Red Lobster. Sit back and enjoy! Do you have an experience to share about any of the topics we’ve discussed on 4W? We wanna read that shit! Send it to us so we can get you...

Welcome back to a fresh new episode of Fourth Wall! Today, Alaina and Corey sit with Jackie Alexander, the Artistic Director of NC Black Rep, who also produces the National Black Theatre Festival! We talk about growing up in black theatre, how to follow your purpose, and what it means to be a black artist in this time. Do you have an experience to share about Representation in the Arts  or any of...

Is it Wednesday already?? Settle in for this beautiful, scrumptious, new episode! Today, we talk with performer and Equity and Inclusion consultant Selena Robinson about the importance of representation, our favorite thing about Aint Too Proud, and why we are all in this together. We clearly loved this convo and hope you do to! Do you have an experience to share about Equity and Inclusion or any o...

Welcome back listeners! I hope you are ready for a fresh new episode of Fourth Wall: the podcast! Today, Corey and Alaina sit with rockstar Victor Jackson! He has been all over the world and he drops some major wisdom for any young artist looking to follow their dreams. We talk about music, church, purpose, and some of our current obsessions! Do you have an experience to share any of the topics we...

Ep 19: We Can’t Go Back w/ Courtney J Boddie Welcome back to a whole new episode of Fourth Wall! Today, Alaina sits with Courtney J. Boddie, an artist and educator based in NYC! She is the host of the Teaching Artist podcast as well as the Creative Generation video series, We Can’t Go Back. Both black women in theatre who have podcasts, Courtney and Alaina talk about the struggles that come with c...

EP 18: Leading the Way w/ Cody Renard Richard I hope you are ready for this treat! Today, Alaina sits with the hottest SM on Broadway right now, Cody Renard Richard! Alaina talks to Cody about his love of the arts, the lack of representation in technical theatre, and the scholarship he has launched to help BIPOC artists live their dreams. This week’s episode is sponsored by Prism Candle Co. Shop a...

Hello and welcome to Fourth Wall: the podcast! Settle down and get ready for this hilarious new episode. Today, Alaina sits down with our fearless Executive Producer Tyler, and our new host Corey Barrow to talk about some of our 4W favorites! Episodes featured: Ep. 4: Allyship 101 w/ Reneé Rapp Ep. 7: The Miseducation of Black BFAs Ep. 16: Protecting your Joy w/ Mykal Kilgore Do you have an experi...

Today, Alaina will try not to fangirl as we welcome MYKAL KILGORE to the podcast! He is one of the most skilled voices in the theatre world and his debut album, A Man Born Black, is changing the game! Today, Alaina sits with Mykal and they talk about how he approaches a role, how he protects his joy, and how others can too! Sit down, cozy up, and check out this new episode of Fourth Wall the Podca...

Hey y'all, welcome back to Fourth Wall! Today we're sitting down with Grace Barber to hear her experience as an actress, musician, and composer with a hearing impairment (otosclerosis, to be exact). Make a mug of your fave tea or hot cocoa and get comfy for this lovely conversation about healthy representation, creating art for everyone, fostering best practices for accessibility, and why you owe...

Today, we at Fourth Wall are ECSTATIC to talk with Jenna Zhu! Not only a badass actor and artist, Jenna is helping to pave the way in Anti-Racism training in our theatre community! Alaina sits with Jenna and talks about the industry, what they are doing now to try and fix the issues in our community, and is it enough. Do you have an experience to share about Anti-Racism or Creating Spaces to Learn...

Welcome to another glorious Wednesday here at Fourth Wall!  Today we talk with Aaron J. Albano, an insanely talented performer with NINE Broadway shows on his record. NINE!!? Not only that, you can catch him on HBO's Succession! We talked all about his journey to the arts, the complicated relationship POC artists have with the industry, and why we love what we do!   Do you have an e...

Welcome to another beautiful Wednesday beyond the Fourth Wall! Today we’re joined by Tiffany Nichole Greene; an incredible actor and director with stories to tell and discoveries to make. She is sharing her unique experience as a black female director and what that means for her art: claiming and holding space, challenging industry standards, maintaining truthful storytelling, collaborating and gr...

Happy Wednesday! Today we’re talking to Kate Lumpkin, CSA to investigate the roles and responsibilities of the casting director in context. She’s dishing on her experience as a young woman in casting, how she built her own business, and how she actively advocates for change in the theatre industry. How is Kate working to create more equitable stage pictures and why is she asking us to ditch the ph...

Elijah Caldwell is Black Excellence. He is a multi-hyphenated artist in every sense of the word; he is a pianist, actor, singer, historian, professor, and activist based in NYC and he’s here to serve. Serving not only truth, but a taste of his new theatre history course. The Great White Way vs. The Industry of Today was designed with the whole truth (not just the white-washed version of theatre hi...

Welcome to another beautiful Wednesday beyond the Fourth Wall!  August is almost over, which means that 4W's Month of Education is also coming to a close. To send us off, we invited Ellen Lettrich (Founder and Executive Director of The Fund for College Auditions) to discuss the infamous college audition process - and why there is so much work to be done before the admissions system is equitab...

Not every story is ours to tell- let's discuss. Welcome to the second installment of our student panel series; last week we spoke with three black BFA theatre majors to hear their experiences with bias in higher education. This week, we invited three white BFA theatre majors to share their experiences on the same topic. How can we hold each other accountable for bias and discrimination at school?...

Last week we heard the perspective of diversity in higher education from the educators- this week, we hear the same topic from students Jackson Alexander, David André, and Phillip Johnson Richardson (students from Penn State, BoCo, and CCM). These experiences you are about to hear are intimate and authentic. They have a right to listening ears, empathy, and understanding. Period. Today, we urge ou...