Four Fs Podcast: Leadership, Entrepreneurship, & Reinvention | Stories From Founders|Veterans|Execs

Joshua Kahn is a somatic integration expert. He explains why your nervous system holds the key to healing trauma and reclaiming identity. Your body remembers what your mind tries to forget. Trauma doesn't just live in your head — it's stored in your nervous system, your muscles, your breath. Joshua Kahn knows this better than almost anyone. As a somatic integration and emotional regulation...

Barb Sanders built Snow Magazine, launched Snow Tequila, and founded The Snow Society. Creativity and courage fuel every brand she builds. Snow Magazine. Snow Tequila. The Snow Society. Barb Sanders didn't just build one brand — she built an entire lifestyle empire rooted in creativity, courage, and relentless reinvention. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Barb Sanders opens up about what...

Desai Link walked away from law school and found himself working on mining sites. His unconventional career path led to meaningful work most people never find. Desai Link was supposed to be a lawyer. Instead, he walked away from law school and found himself on mining sites — and discovered a career with more purpose than any courtroom could offer. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Desai Link s...

Himani Naresh was arrested for a $1.25 subway fare in NYC. She graduated from Wharton and became a tech executive. Resilience defined Arrested for a $1.25 subway fare in New York City. Graduated from the Wharton Business School. Became a tech executive. Transitioned to non-profit leadership. Himani Naresh's story defies every expectation. In this powerful conversation with Jeff Cluff, Himani N...

Filmmaker Elijah Donnelly chased his dream in Hollywood, hit a wall, and moved back to Nashville to start over at 30. Raw and real Elijah Donnelly moved to Los Angeles to make it as a filmmaker. Hollywood had other plans. At 30, he packed up and moved back to Nashville — broke, humbled, and more creative than ever. In this honest conversation with Jeff Cluff, filmmaker and storyteller Elijah Donne...

Certified Financial Planner Linda Grizely reveals the money mindset traps keeping you broke — and the strategic giving framework that actually builds wealth. Most people's relationship with money is fundamentally broken — and they don't even know it. Certified Financial Planner Linda Grizely has spent her career fixing that. In this practical, no-BS conversation with Jeff Cluff, Linda Griz...

Michelle Foley started on the Windows 98 helpdesk. Now she runs the Cloud Center of Excellence at Truist Bank. Grit, not pedigree, got her there. Michelle Foley's first tech job was answering phones on the Windows 98 helpdesk. Today she's a Senior VP running the Cloud Center of Excellence at Truist Bank. No Ivy League degree. No connections. Just relentless grit. In this conversation with...

A near-death experience completely reshaped how former Microsoft EVP Rich Kaplan thinks about leadership, teams, and what actually matters in life. What happens when a near-death experience forces you to rethink everything — your career, your leadership style, your entire life? Former Microsoft Executive Vice President Rich Kaplan found out firsthand. In this riveting conversation with Jeff Cluff,...

Professor Stacey Lee has taught negotiation to thousands. Her framework for authentic, high-stakes conversations changes everything. Most people avoid negotiation because they think it requires being aggressive or manipulative. Professor Stacey Lee proves the opposite — the best negotiators are the most authentic. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Professor Stacey Lee shares her proven framewo...

Matt Alston co-founded Surex.com and disrupted the insurance industry. But before the wins came crushing failures he's never talked about publicly — until now. The startup world celebrates winners. Nobody talks about the failures that happened first. Matt Alston, co-founder of Surex.com, is ready to change that. In this brutally honest conversation with Jeff Cluff, Matt Alston shares the failu...

Former Army Ranger David Porter faced a life-altering moment that forced him to reevaluate everything. His transformation is unforgettable David Porter was an Army Ranger — the tip of the spear in special operations. Then a life-altering moment forced him to reevaluate everything: his career, his identity, his entire direction. In this authentic conversation with Jeff Cluff, former Army Ranger Dav...

Gina Tesla reinvented herself six times — and still leads with purpose. Her framework for building a career around impact is powerful. Six career reinventions. Each one bolder than the last. Gina Tesla didn't just change jobs — she rebuilt her identity around purpose, social impact, and sustainability every single time. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, social impact and sustainability exp...

Kevin Schreck turned relentless curiosity into a thriving company. The Elevate CEO shares why discipline is the real secret to freedom Everyone talks about passion. Kevin Schreck talks about discipline. As CEO of Elevate, he's built a thriving company not on inspiration — but on the daily habits and brutal self-honesty that most entrepreneurs avoid. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Kevin...

Economist Dr. Gordon Bodnar. breaks down how tariffs, AI, and shifting economic forces are reshaping the American economy in hidden ways The economy is being reshaped by forces most people don't see — or don't understand. AI is transforming education. Tariffs are rewriting global trade. And the leaders navigating these shifts are playing a completely different game. In this wide-ranging conversati...

Andreae Pohlman went from competitive Texas tennis to trailblazing cybersecurity leader. Her career pivot demanded extraordinary resilience. From competitive tennis courts in Texas to the frontlines of cybersecurity — Andreae Pohlman's career path is anything but ordinary. And that's exactly what makes her story so powerful. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Andreae Pohlman shares the...

Former Microsoft strategist Mike Owen makes the case for radical salary transparency — and explains why companies that resist it are losing their best people. Salary transparency isn't a trend — it's a reckoning. And most companies are on the wrong side of it. Former Microsoft employee Mike Owen has seen the inside of corporate compensation and he's not afraid to tell the truth. In thi...

Chris Walker survived Y2K, thrived inside Microsoft, and became a top voice in B2B marketing. He explains what most marketers get wrong. Chris Walker has been at the center of every major shift in technology and marketing for two decades. From surviving Y2K to navigating Microsoft's culture to becoming one of the most influential voices in B2B marketing, his perspective is unmatched. In this c...

Jan Nelson lives where art meets code. He reveals how creative thinking transforms technology teams and why great engineers are artists. The best software isn't just built — it's designed. And the best technologists aren't just engineers — they're artists. Jan Nelson has spent his career proving that creativity and code are not opposites. In this conversation with Jeff Cluff, Jan N...

Maureen O'Hara's tech startup failed. Instead of quitting, she channeled resilience into community empowerment. Her comeback is extraordinary. Maureen O'Hara's startup failed. She lost almost everything. Most people would have walked away from tech entirely. Instead, she reinvented herself and built something even more meaningful. In this candid, energizing conversation with Jeff C...