Emma Rainville & Mitch Barham

Follow The Yellow Brick Road

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Follow The Yellow Brick Road is the podcast for founders who want a clear path to turning clicks into customers. Hosted by Emma Rainville (Founder of Shockwave Solutions, Wizard of Ops) and Mitch Barham (Founder of Barham Marketing, Wizard of Ads), this show breaks down what actually drives growth — from acquisition to conversion to operations. Emma brings the systems and execution behind businesses that run without the founder in the day-to-day. Mitch brings the ads and acquisition that turn attention into revenue. Together, they connect both sides — so your business doesn’t just get clicks,...

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Emma Rainville & Mitch Barham

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Business

Latest episode

Jun 16, 2026

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Episodes

Marketing Mistakes That Trigger FTC Investigations (and How to Avoid Them) 11.07.2025

Discover why "everyone else is doing it" could cost you millions—and how to navigate the FTC’s aggressive stance on marketing compliance. In this highlight episode, Emma Rainville and Ryan Poteet of Gordon Reese break down dangerous misconceptions about marketing regulations, influencer disclosures, and subscription billing practices, highlighting hidden risks that marketers frequently overlook. S...

Why People Buy: It’s Not Price, It’s Energy 08.07.2025

What is the real cost of indecision? This highlight episode breaks down risk, ops, and the rise of experiential buying. In this Special Ops highlight drop, Emma pulls the sharpest insights from two elite operators: Perry Belcher and Jason Fladlien. Together they dissect the collapse of recorded information, rising decision fatigue, and how AI, trust, and fulfillment are reshaping the sales and ops...

Why Money Is Like Oxygen And You Never Noticed! 01.07.2025

You can have the perfect strategy, but if you screw up the timing, or your ego gets in the way, you’ll blow the entire thing! In this highlights episode of Special Ops , Emma brings together some of the sharpest founder insights on liquidity, decision-making, and the dangerous mindset shifts that sabotage scale. From chasing an inflated valuation to deploying cash too early, this conversation unpa...

Can You Say That in an Ad? Limited-Time Lies, Testimonial Traps, and the Real FTC Rules | Marketing on Trial 27.06.2025

Limited-time offers. Income claims. Celebrity testimonials. What if everything your funnel is built on is legally shaky—and you don’t even know it? In this special highlights edition of Marketing on Trial , hosts Emma Rainville and Ryan Poteet compile the most impactful moments from recent episodes—bringing together the sharpest insights on deceptive marketing practices, legal blind spots, and the...

What Losing $5M to a Comma Taught Me About Contracts, Liquidity, and Copy That Converts 24.06.2025

What happens when hard-won marketing wisdom meets the cold realities of legal fine print? These next few weeks were bringing you highlights from the best episodes of Special Ops. Today, Emma brings together two of her favorite minds— Kasim Aslam and Nick Verge —for a rapid-fire download of strategy, survival, and straight-up founder honesty. From Kasim’s battle-tested M&A experience (and how a...

Special Ops Spinoff! Marketing on Trial – Season Teaser 20.06.2025

From the creators of the Special Ops Podcast comes a brand-new spinoff series that marketers can’t afford to ignore. Marketing on Trial is where hard-hitting marketing strategies meet real legal accountability. Co-hosted by the wizard of ops herself, Emma Rainville and Ryan Poteet of Gordon Reese, this show pulls back the curtain on the marketing tactics that could get you sued—and how to fix them...

The Psychology Behind Pricing and Value Stack to Maximize Your Sales 17.06.2025

You’re probably leaving money on the table because of your pricing and you don’t even know it. There are significant psychological and strategic principles behind effective pricing and value stacking. In today’s episode of Special Ops, host Emma Rainville teams up with Richard and Saka to break down how setting the right price point and building compelling value stacks can transform your product,...

How the FTC is Using AI To Target Marketers Faster Than Ever | Marketing on Trial 13.06.2025

Can AI reshape regulatory enforcement in the supplement industry? Emma Rainville and Ryan Poteet of Gordon Reese dive deep into how automation tools may revolutionize how the FTC and FDA monitor marketing claims, labeling, and deceptive advertising.  They tackle the misconception that the current administration's stance will lead to deregulation, warning that every action today may have futur...

How to Build Bulletproof Marketing Ops with Saka 10.06.2025

Is your marketing execution as strong as your strategy? In this episode of the Special Ops podcast, Emma Rainville pulls back the curtain on the unsung hero of her company's success—Saka, the Director of Marketing Operations. Broadcasting from a studio in London with her team, Emma delves into how marketing operations are the backbone of effective execution.  Saka, hailing from Mauritius, sha...

The FTC’s Next Target: Are Direct Response Advertisers About to Get Wrecked? | Marketing on Trial 06.06.2025

Are your direct response marketing tactics compliant with the FTC's latest standards? As the Federal Trade Commission tightens its grip on mainstream performance marketers, many strategies that have scaled brands to millions could soon be ruled as deceptive. In this hard-hitting episode of Marketing on Trial, Ryan Poteet of Gordon Reese and Emma dissect these changes, offering a no-holds-barred lo...

The Decision Room: Mastering High-Stake Choices for Operations Excellence 03.06.2025

How do high-level business operations make critical decisions quickly and effectively? This week on the Special Ops podcast, Emma is joined by her ever-reliable Operations duo, Richard and Saka. They’ve gathered together in London for an in-depth discussion about decision-making in high-pressure scenarios. They share their personal processes for rapidly evaluating choices, weighing outcomes, and l...

Deceptive Marketing or Smart Advertising? Where the Law Draws the Line | Marketing on Trial 30.05.2025

Can your clever marketing copy land you in legal trouble? In today's episode, Emma Rainville and FTC compliance attorney Ryan Poteet explore the fine line between persuasive advertising and deceptive marketing.  Learn how one sentence in your copy could be the difference between scaling to seven figures and facing a multi million-dollar fine.  The discussion covers the FTC's definition o...

Funnel Quality Checks You Should Do Before AND After Launching 28.05.2025

When launching funnels, we tend to obsess over what the customer sees. But what they don’t see is the background, where things break, lawsuits start, or revenue quietly disappears. In this episode, I’m sitting down with Richard, Shockwave’s Chief Marketing Officer and the guy who double-checks every switch behind every campaign before it goes live. We’ll unpack the overlooked world of funnel infra...

Most Influencer Marketing Is Breaking the Law (Here’s Why) | Marketing on Trial 23.05.2025

Is your influencer marketing compliant with FTC regulations? In this tactical episode, Emma Rainville and Ryan Poteet of Gordon Reese dissect the critical compliance missteps that could be putting your brand at risk. Discover how to navigate the FTC's Trade Regulation Rule on consumer reviews, endorsements, and testimonials, while integrating effective strategies to ensure your influencer partners...

Special London Episode! Shockwave’s Secret to Ops Excellence with Global Teams 20.05.2025

In this special episode of Special Ops, Emma sits down with Richard and Saka in London to discuss the operational strategies that have propelled Shockwave's international success. They delve into the intricacies of team building, communication, and the importance of purposely slowing down to speed up and avoid costly mistakes. How deliberate can operational planning be, coupled with understanding...

Your Marketing Might Be ILLEGAL and Here’s What the FTC Won’t Tell You | Marketing on Trial 16.05.2025

The Special Ops Podcast is launching a new spinoff show! Join host Emma Rainville opposite Ryan Poteet from Gordon Reese as they delve into FTC compliance for direct response marketers, online sellers, and e-commerce brands. Deceptive advertising has cost businesses over $5 billion in recent years, and many marketers don't even know they're at risk. In this debut episode of 'Marketing On Trial,' t...

The Final Showdown: Marketing vs Ops, Who is REALLY Slowing You Down? 13.05.2025

If you’ve been following this 3-part arc with Yara, you know we’ve been hammering home the same critical idea from every angle: Ops and Marketing must align, or you bleed money. In today’s final conversation, we dive into the cultural and leadership side of the problem— including some painful lessons around toxic teams and the communication breakdowns that plague scaling businesses. This is the fi...

Why People Say NO (And How to Flip That Into a YES Instantly) 06.05.2025

What if the real reason people say “no” to your offer has nothing to do with your product, but how you're presenting it? Nick Verge, copywriting and marketing psychology expert, is back, and today we’re unpacking why customers hesitate even when they need what you’re selling.  Nick walks us through the psychology of objections, showing how a “no” is often just a disguised “not yet.” We dive i...

The Slow Quiet Bleed Killing Your Business: How to Fix It Fast | Yara Golden 29.04.2025

Are your marketing and operations teams speaking different languages? If your marketing team is constantly over-promising while your operations team struggles to deliver, you may be facing a hidden problem that could cost your business big. The disconnect between these two departments creates inefficiency and quietly undermines your efforts to scale your business.  In this episode, Yara Golde...

Stop Undervaluing Your Business: Smart Pricing Strategies with Robin Waite 22.04.2025

Are you charging less than you’re worth? In today’s episode, I’m hosting Robin Waite, an author, business coach, and the founder of Fearless Business, to discuss the importance of pricing for your business success. Robin breaks down the mistakes most entrepreneurs make when setting prices and how those errors can significantly hurt their profitability.  You’ll learn how to avoid underpricing...

How Direct Response Marketers Can Launch Challenges to Increase Profits and Reduce Chaos 15.04.2025

Are you pouring money and effort into marketing challenges that just aren't converting? Your challenge structure could be the real problem. I’m joined by Mikhail Kuznetsov, an expert in high-ticket offers and challenge marketing. He reveals the hidden operational mistakes that may be quietly sabotaging your sales.  Mikhail explains how to use strategic pre-challenge tactics and precise commun...

Why Leaders Make Millions While Managers Stay Stuck—The Secret to Earning More 08.04.2025

Are your teams just getting by or thriving under true leadership? Today, I sit down with leadership expert Andy Neillie to discuss why leadership always trumps management. Andy, who has spent years working with teams around the world, shares invaluable insights on transforming managers into high-performing leaders.  We explore different leadership styles, discuss the importance of being kind...

You’re Losing Customers Because of This One Psychological Mistake (Fix It Now) 01.04.2025

Are you struggling with low conversions despite having a great product? Your messaging—not your offer—could be the real problem. In today’s episode, marketing psychology expert Nick Verge reveals the hidden psychological mistake that’s quietly costing you sales and how fixing it could double your revenue overnight. Nick breaks down how top brands use deep psychological triggers to connect with cus...

Why Your Marketing and Ops Team Are Near Blows: The Secret to Getting Them Into a High-Performing Team 25.03.2025

Hiring the right people isn’t just about finding someone smart or a great team player. It’s about putting the right person in the right role. Too many businesses make the critical mistake of mixing creatives and operators, expecting them to thrive without a proper structure. That often leads to chaos. So today, I sit down with messaging and leadership expert Yara Golden to unpack why marketing and...

The Business Freedom Formula: How to Build Self-Managing Teams That Scale 18.03.2025

Too many entrepreneurs start a business for freedom, only to find themselves stuck in endless work, unable to step away without everything falling apart. If that sounds familiar, this episode is for you. I sit down with James P. Friel, business consultant and CEO of FG Ventures, to break down how to build self-managed teams. James shares the exact Business Freedom Formula that transformed his care...

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