Dr. Robyn Kassas & Dr. Nathan Kassas

First Love

Religion EN ↓ 93 episodes

“First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love.

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Author

Dr. Robyn Kassas & Dr. Nathan Kassas

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Religion

Podcast website

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Latest episode

Oct 16, 2026

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Episodes

First Love Ep. 68 - The Old Gate: From A Schema to a Dreamer Via His Rhema 11.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas conclude their Old Gate series by focusing on the rhema. From Romans 10:17 they explain that the "word" is the Greek rhema, God's spoken word, which brings faith where a schema brings prediction. Joseph is the model of a dreamer who learned to interpret by God's rhema. They give markers for discerning it: a rhema that makes you le...

First Love Ep. 67 - The Old Gate: The Law, Love That Interrupts Our Scheming 10.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue examining scheming and how God replaces it with His rhema, turning a schemer into a dreamer. Jacob's story is the main example: he dreams at Bethel yet interprets the dream through a scheme, until God wrestles him at Peniel and changes his name to Israel. They discuss Rebekah's fear that the word would fail, how manipulat...

First Love Ep. 66 - The Old Gate: Schemas Lead to Scheming 09.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas explain how a schema becomes a scheme: the schema interprets, the prediction anticipates, and the scheme tries to control the outcome. Using examples of abandonment, mistrust, and powerlessness, they show how a distorted map produces distorted strategies. Sarah's plan to give Hagar to Abraham and Saul's pursuit of David illustrate...

First Love Ep. 65 - The Old Gate: Schemas, Your Interpretation Isn't God's Revelation 08.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the Old Gate series, saying Christians are often taught to put off but not to put on. They connect Ephesians 4:22 to Jesus laying aside His deity and being crowned, and to the priest's garments on the Day of Atonement. Focusing on sin makes us less focused on Him; small daily victories matter. They explain how confirmatio...

First Love Ep. 64 - The Old Gate: It's Not Just What Is Removed, It's What Is Renewed 07.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas open a new week at the Old Gate, recapping the law as love and the point that the fear of the Lord is a beginning, not an end. Returning to Jeremiah 6:16, they note that the real wrestle may be with God's way, not His Word or will. They introduce schemas as neural blueprints that help the brain process thousands of stimuli every s...

First Love Ep. 63 - Which Past Gets to Define You, The One You Remember Through His Story 04.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas wrap up the Old Gate with key statements: it is not taking you backward but reconnecting you to what should never have been left behind. They explain that the brain predicts what could and should happen, which triggers sympathetic responses, while Jesus never predicted but went back to what the Father had said. Healing changes yes...

First Love Ep. 62 - Remember Right Brings New Meaning for Today 03.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas reflect on their three guest episodes with Dr. Tony Kassas and move the Old Gate into emotion and neuroscience. Where the fish gate was about remembering His voice, the old gate is about remembering His ways. They offer an acronym for pain and stresses that God does not erase the past but redeems it through remembrance. They contr...

First Love Ep. 61 - The Most Enduring Motivation, LOVE 02.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas welcome Dr. Tony Kassas for a third day on the Old Gate and ask whether Jesus came because of sin or because of love. Dr. Tony shares that he first came to Christ through fear and explains creation as God's love shared with a family, pointing to the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. The group discusses Adam obeying wi...

First Love Ep. 60 - The Law of Love: Killing What Has Been Killing You 01.09.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the Old Gate with guest Dr. Tony Kassas. They ask whether believers are under law or grace, and Dr. Tony answers that the law is fulfilled by grace and led by the Spirit, a change of heart rather than of head. The hosts explain that the old gate speaks of what has stood the test of time and gives stable ground while every...

First Love Ep. 59 - The Old Gate: Return to the Ancient Path 31.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas leave the Fish Gate and begin the Old Gate from Nehemiah 3:6, welcoming their first guest, Dr. Tony Kassas, who holds a doctorate in theology. The hosts note the gate was repaired, not built, and frame it as realignment: the sheep gate was identity, the fish gate hearing, and the old gate anchoring life in what God already establi...

First Love Ep. 58 - The Fish Gate: Calling Begins With Following 28.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas close out the Fish Gate and preview the Old Gate, where some things must change and others be remembered or forgotten. They teach that the sheep gate shows whose we are, the fish gate develops our response, and calling begins through following rather than striving. They discuss how the storm can dictate what we remember and the 40...

First Love Ep. 57 - The Fish Gate: Peter's Reinstatement, Healed and Made Whole 27.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas read John 21 and complete their study of Peter's reinstatement at the Fish Gate. They teach that Peter's guilt kept him from seeing Jesus on the shore, and that being made whole requires many pieces, as a whole pizza has many slices. They note that the net did not break under the 153 fish and that Jesus cooked breakfast for His di...

First Love Ep. 56 - The Fish Gate: Cast the Net on the Other Side 26.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas near the end of the Fish Gate with Peter in John 21, casting the net on the right side of the boat after the resurrection. They show that obeying the voice builds trust, and that the sheep gate recognizes the voice while the fish gate moves when He speaks. Truth is a person, not a personal version. Fish live immersed in water, so...

First Love Ep. 55 - The Fish Gate: One Channel, Discerning the Voice You Hear 25.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the Fish Gate by focusing on spiritual discernment. They explain that God, the enemy, and our own thoughts all speak through the same channel, so faith and discernment are required. Comparing discernment to narrowing a fishing net, they show that the Holy Spirit still flows through while the old supply is filtered out, an...

First Love Ep. 54 - The Fish Gate: Hearing Is Not Listening 24.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas broadcast from their new studio, now airing Monday to Friday, and continue the Fish Gate with the biology of hearing. They explain that identity is formed by listening, not speaking, and that obedience changes not what we hear but how we hear. Using the fish's lateral line, which senses the movement of water, they picture the Holy...

First Love Ep. 53 - The Biology of Following 21.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the fish gate series, teaching that God changes identity before He changes behavior. Following Peter's call in Matthew 4:19, they explain that discipleship means imitating Jesus, and that lasting change requires a new belief, not only new behavior. They share the idea of macro munching: choosing one small change and pract...

First Love Ep. 52 - The Psychology of Following First 20.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue the fish gate series by looking at the psychology of following Jesus. They stress that broken people serving can only create more brokenness, that healing and service can grow together, and that being a human being comes before being a human doing. Reading Matthew 4:19 in parts, they show that Peter had to stop following...

First Love Ep. 51 - The Fish Gate: Why We Are, Purpose and A New Supply 19.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas move from healing to purpose with the fish gate of Nehemiah 3. They explain that the fish gate supplied and fed the city, so the greatest healing is changing what supplies your life. Using Matthew 4:19, they show that Jesus said to Peter, follow me and I will make you fishers of men, forming his identity before giving an assignmen...

First Love Ep. 50 - The Sheep Gate: Death and Damage Are Not The Same 18.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas explain why the Pool of Bethesda sits beside the sheep gate: healing comes before purpose, because the death of the old life does not automatically heal its damage. From John 5 they explore the meaning of Bethesda as house of mercy, the five porches as grace, and why Jesus, who created the water, stepped in Himself rather than wai...

First Love Ep. 49 - The Sheep Gate Begins 17.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas introduce First Love as it expands to a daily Monday-to-Friday time slot, sharing their backgrounds and their aim to make Jesus real, relevant, and relational. They launch a new series on the gates of Nehemiah 3, explaining that gates are meant to be walked through, not stood at, and that each gate is an entry point to a conversat...

First Love Ep. 48 - A New Walk, A New Way 11.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Nathan Kassas and Dr. Robyn Kassas bring their Pool of Bethesda series to a close. From John 5 they show that many entered the water yet were not healed—healing is ultimately about identity, not activity. Jesus did not wait for the water; He is the One who created and moves upon it. The man had to grow weary of the mat that had become his security blanket, th...

First Love Ep. 47 - Healing Is About Identity 04.08.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their Gates of Jerusalem series (Nehemiah 3), remaining at the Pool of Bethesda near the Sheep Gate. From John 5 they examine the man infirm for 38 years whose hope rested in stirred water, human help, and being first. Jesus does not compete with the man’s coping systems or place him in the pool; He confronts the id...

First Love Ep. 46 - Don't Watch The Water, Step Into It 28.07.2026

Show Notes:  In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem (Nehemiah 3), focusing on the Sheep Gate as the place of surrendering the old life and the adjacent Pool of Bethesda as the necessary place of healing. They challenge the “get saved and serve” model, insisting healing must precede ministry so broken people do not wo...

First Love Ep. 45 - The Pool Of Bethesda: From Slaughter To Stirring 21.07.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem (Nehemiah 3), focusing on the Sheep Gate as the vital first conversation with God. They correct the common misunderstanding of 2 Corinthians 5:17, explaining that we are not instantly “become new” but are continually becoming new —an ongoing process of transformatio...

First Love Ep. 44 - The Sheep Gate: Beginning The Journey Of Becoming 14.07.2026

Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas continue their series on the gates of Jerusalem from Nehemiah 3, finalizing the teaching on the Sheep Gate as the essential first conversation with God. They expose how believers often remove or skip these gates—just as Suleiman the Great did historically—because the Western gospel teaches that “all things have b...

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