Feminine Chaos

Kat and Phoebe discuss sexually adventurous podcasting, unwanted heirloom dining sets, the phenomenon of "divorce rings," the latest viral Cut essay about age gap relationships, and what to do when your foyer is too narrow to hold your collection of body parts in jars.  LINKS: Kat and Phoebe on BARpod Twitter: Won’t someone think of the boomers’ furniture ? I Inherited a Nazi Helmet From My Husban...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the moral quandary of missing royalty. Links: Kate announces her cancer diagnosis: https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1771235267837321694 Everyone should be ashamed over Princess Kate but me | Ben Sixsmith | The Critic Magazine Opinion | The Real Royal Scandal Is on Us - The New Yo...

Kat and Phoebe discuss breast aesthetics, 90s nostalgia, and whether we're all taking too many drugs.   Links: Are We Sunsetting Ass and Entering a Golden Age of Boobs? Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back - The Spectator World Katherine Dee : “I think benzos and SSRIs are overprescribed for the same reason antibiotics and birth control are. Pharmaceuticals are a lucrative industry and being sick...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe talk about the sandwich anecdote that melted the internet, how they got jobs in journalism, and the one-way feud between two memoirists. Links: The origins of Sandwichgate: I Was a Heretic at The New York Times - The Atlantic Phoebe on sandwich discourse: Kat on the battling memoirists: https://un...

Kat and Phoebe discuss a fun philosophical question about desire, a fine literary essay about not getting divorced, and the sacred gossip machine known as the whisper network. Is it better to desire or be desired? Many journalists, etc weigh in: The Desire Question｜Dirt Emily Gould decompensates, turns decompensation into literature. Should I Leave My Husband? The Lure of Divorce The article shal...

Kat tells a story about accidentally installing a public toilet in her home, while Phoebe uncovers a conspiracy within the New York Times real estate section. Then: Taylor Swift! Is she old? Fat? Mineral? Vegetable? We may never know. Links: Nobody will ever know what you’re doing behind this door (just as long as you draw the curtain first)… The latest evidence that “Living Small” is a deliberate...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss the cringiest response to Barbie's semi-snub at the Oscars, one lady's viral tweetstorm about the scourge of Zionists in the literary world, and the multifarious polyamorous discourse du jour. Links: We've had Kenough of this sort of thing: https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1750185...

Kat and Phoebe discuss the big gay intrigue over Taylor Swift, the contemporary contours of Mean Girl World, and the missing Jews of Only Murders in the Building . Links: Kat talks awards season and royal drama on Piers Morgan:   Oscars may experience a ‘vibe shift’ with actors avoiding politics and virtue-signalling | Sky News Australia The Gaylor Manifesto: Opinion | Look What We Made Taylor Swi...

Kat and Phoebe discuss a provocative underwear ad, a post-wall woman, and the stolen valor of a new book about fatphobia.  Links: Mr. Underpants https://twitter.com/CalvinKlein/status/1742901431185584252 Soooo… what is that building back there? Does anyone know? Phoebe on Mr. Underpants Senior: Kat's review of Kate Manne’s Unshrinking ( and why is Manne using “ we ” to describe the people who don’...

In an extra-long, very special episode, Kat and Phoebe finish out the year with a retrospective on the death (or was it?) of journalism, a discussion of Soup Discourse, and a debate on the foolishness (or is it?) of tradwives. Links: James Bennett's essay: When the New York Times lost its way Phoebe on the death of swashbuckling: Kat on tradwives…: The Paradoxical Freedom of Tradwife Tiktok …and t...

Kat and Phoebe unsheath their wooden swords to discuss an all-hemp house featured in the NYT's "Living Small" column, and the latest galaxy-brained takes about sexual violence in Gaza. Links: Their Cape Cod Home Isn’t Small, but Its Carbon Footprint Is Accounts of Sexual Violence by Hamas Are Aired Amid Criticism of U.N. - The New York Times Phoebe on the #MeToo Unless You’re a Jew phenomenon This...

Kat and Phoebe battle a glitchy recording platform to talk about the reporting process behind Kat's latest Airmail article, why people are firing bullets at Jewish buildings, and what the Israel/Palestine discourse has to do with Taylor Swift. Links: Kat: The Israel-Hamas Conflict Causes a Rift Among Young Progressives - Air Mail A school shooting (that is, a school was shot): Montreal police inve...

Kat and Phoebe, notorious signatories of the Harper's letter on free speech, discuss tasty hats, terrible ballet flats, strange bedfellows in the queer activism community, and why the New York Times hired a Hitler fanboy for its coverage in Gaza. Links: The hat-eater (when will the free speech crowd say something oh wait they have): https://twitter.com/BovyMaltz/status/1716629638988857732 Worm Jok...

Kat and Phoebe discuss war discourse and reality dating shows, which are, of course, basically the same thing. Links: Leigh Stein on personal brands facing difficult times: Phoebe on wishy-washy war commentary: https://thecjn.ca/perspectives/it-is-actually-fine-to-care-when-jews-are-killed-phoebe-maltz-bovy-on-tepid-responses-to-terror/ Kat on war discourse and civility: https://unherd.com/2023/10...

Kat and Phoebe grope for answers to this week’s big philosophical questions: what is the best Broadway show at which to get to third base? Do the Russell Brand allegations represent a new frontier in age gap discourse? If you say Jann Wenner’s name three times, will he show up and harass your dinner party guests with unsolicited opinions about who does and does not qualify as a philosopher of rock...

Kat and Phoebe discuss body counts, TV nudity, and what you can do with a falafel in the shower. Links: Phoebe on body count discourse: "The question we must ask young women is this: who told you it was acceptable to have a high body count?" https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1698099127467336124 The Clerks scene: The falafel incident: https://www.vice.com/en/article/evgxkw/remember-bill-or...

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.com Kat and Phoebe discuss an alleged denial of service at a Manhattan bar, NYC Mayor Eric Adams' most recent horny-on-main incident, and romantic approaches for all genders. Kat and Phoebe's recent work: Unraveling the Secrets of the Barbieverse Here come the female Andrew Tates - UnHerd "I'd like to be Eileen Gum...

Kat and Phoebe discuss a young man's existential crisis over being rudely awakened by his girlfriend, the cultural significance of the Barbie movie, the hot pink aesthetic known as "Barbiecore", and the $5 million log cabin for a man and his dog. Links: The regretful Redditor: https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/151hlva/my_gf_woke_me_up_with_a_blowjob_and_i_kinda_like/ Kat on boundaries: Kat on...

Kat and Phoebe discuss plotting a murder with ChatGPT and the latest in academic diversity dramas. Links: With End of Affirmative Action, a Push for a New Tool: Adversity Scores Phoebe on the state of academic affairs: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-waterloo-attack-is-part-of-a-broader-trend-of-hatred-for-academia/   https://thecjn.ca/perspectives/affirmative-action-and-divers...

Kat and Phoebe are joined by friend and favorite Leigh Stein to discuss bad advice, self-cancelled books, and the accessories of the middle-aged. Links: Roxane Gay's less-than-sound advice: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/18/business/roxane-gay-lgbtq-work.html Leigh on the bad precedent: https://unherd.com/thepost/elizabeth-gilberts-self-cancellation-sets-a-dangerous-precedent/ Kat on the hostage-...

Kat and Phoebe share stories about mushrooms (not that kind), and mushrooms (yes, that kind.) Then: an allegedly scandalous review of Brandon Taylor's new novel, and the ensuing literary brouhaha. Links: The infamous review! https://slate.com/culture/2023/05/late-americans-brandon-taylor-twitter-novel-review.html Brandon Taylor in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/books/review/brandon-ta...

With early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss a New Yorker article about a party for the post-cancelled and the extremely normal responses to it from fellow journalists. This Party Is Cancelled: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-local-correspondents/the-party-is-cancelled Readers having a normal one: https://twitter.com/jeffihaza/status/1659278954014945280 https://twitter.com/...

With early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss the death of a man on the New York City subway, and the discourse that ensued. Links: Freddie deBoer on fear: Jamelle Bouie on some key facts: https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1655725142809387008 Elizabeth Spiers defends the honor of the subway: https://twitter.com/espiers/status/1655548648875237376 Kat on the #MeToo angle: https:/...

Kat and Phoebe discuss the pros and cons of the downstairs loo, the rise and fall of the momfluencer, and whether society will ever flush itself of the ritual privilege check. Links: Caitlin Moran’s toiletless existence:  https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/64d060fe-d204-11ed-b1cd-5223fe349502 Phoebe on momfluencers: https://unherd.com/2023/04/momfluencers-wont-absolve-your-mom-guilt/ This is a pub...

Kat and Phoebe discuss a recent series of branding controversies, how protoinfluencer Julia Allison walked so Dylan Mulvaney could run, and whether we can get a toilet sponsorship for Phoebe's yard raccoon.  Links: Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney Dylan Mulvaney's tampon content: Caroline McCarthy on Mulvaney's brand relationships: https://twitter.com/caro/status/164...