Excess Returns
Excess Returns
Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.
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Jul 9, 2026
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The Risks of the Rise of Passive Investing | Mike Green 27.07.2025 1:22:41
In this episode of Excess Returns, Mike Green returns to dissect the structural transformation underway in public markets due to the rise of passive investing. He explains why “there’s no such thing as a passive investor,” how inelastic flows distort prices, and what it means for valuation, volatility, and the long-term sustainability of equity markets. From the math behind market multipliers to t...
The Case for a Broadening Bull Market | Jim Paulsen 25.07.2025 57:43
Subscribe on Apple Podcsasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-paulsen-show/id1828054999 Subscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3QaBDVGuBZ3cZfFZ4mqPFc Subscribe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/excessreturns In the premiere episode of our new monthly series, The Jim Paulsen Show we dig into Jim's latest research and the charts that define today's economic and mark...
You’re Misreading the Rally | Liz Ann Sonders on What is Really Driving Market Returns 23.07.2025 56:55
📉 What the Market Is Getting Wrong | Liz Ann Sonders on Debt, Tariffs, and the Fed In this episode of Excess Returns , we welcome back Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab, for an in-depth conversation about what's really driving markets right now. Drawing on her latest research and commentary, we dig into retail trading dynamics, the implications of rising tariffs, the...
This Isn’t Priced In | PIMCO’s Libby Cantrill on the Policy Risks Markets Are Missing 20.07.2025 49:49
Policy uncertainty is rising—but markets seem unfazed. In this episode, we sit down with Libby Cantrill , Head of Public Policy at PIMCO , to explore the critical policy risks that investors may be underestimating or ignoring altogether. From the real-world implications of the tariffs to questions around Fed independence , fiscal stimulus , and housing market interventions , Libby provides an insi...
False Recession Alarms. Real Risks. | Aahan Menon on What Investors Are Missing 16.07.2025 57:11
Why didn’t the long-predicted recession arrive? In this episode, we talk with Aahan Menon, founder of Prometheus Research, about why traditional macro models are breaking down and what investors are missing in today’s economy. Aahan explains why recession indicators have failed, how monetary policy transmission has changed, and what really matters in understanding economic risk right now. We also...
How Option Dealer Flows Impact the Stock Market 11.07.2025 50:30
Billions are moving through the stock market every day—but not for the reasons most investors think. In this episode, Brent Kochuba of SpotGamma breaks down the hidden world of options dealer flows and explains how concepts like gamma, vanna, and charm are silently shaping market behavior. Whether you’re a trader or long-term investor, understanding these behind-the-scenes forces is essential to m...
The Great Moderation is Over. The Great Convergence is Here | Luca Paolini on What Comes Next 08.07.2025 58:10
In this episode, we speak with Luca Paolini, Chief Strategist at Pictet Asset Management, about the firm’s 2025 Secular Outlook and the unfolding shift in global markets. Paolini argues that the era of U.S. exceptionalism is fading—and investors may be mispricing what comes next. We discuss why the “Great Convergence” could redefine asset allocation, what it means for U.S. equities and the dollar,...
Whipsaws, Drawdowns, and Disbelief | Eric Crittenden on the Best Diversifier No One Buys 28.06.2025 1:29:43
In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler and Jason Buck sit down with Eric Crittenden, CIO of Standpoint Funds, for a wide-ranging and candid discussion about trend following, risk transfer markets, and what it takes to build a resilient investment strategy for uncertain futures. Eric shares decades of hard-won insights on investor behavior, portfolio construction, performance pain points,...
Broken Models. Misleading Yields | Ryan Krueger on Avoiding the Dividend Trap 25.06.2025 59:19
Most investors chase yield. But what if the very models they rely on — from dividend screens to the 4% rule — are fundamentally broken? In this episode, we’re joined by Ryan Krueger, co-founder of Freedom Day Solutions and manager of the MBOX ETF, to explore the overlooked truths of dividend investing. Ryan breaks down the importance of dividend growth over yield, why most dividend strategies igno...
500,000 More Sellers Than Buyers. First Time in a Decade | Daryl Fairweather on What Comes Next 23.06.2025 50:32
In this episode, we’re joined by Daryl Fairweather, Chief Economist at Redfin and author of Hate the Game , to explore the most dramatic shift in the U.S. housing market in over a decade. With sellers now outnumbering buyers by more than 500,000 for the first time since 2013, Daryl breaks down what’s really happening beneath the surface—and why so many homeowners and policymakers are reluctant to...
Buffett Does It. Most Value Investors Don’t | Robert Hagstrom on the Real Key to Compounding 21.06.2025 1:16:45
Robert Hagstrom returns to discuss the investing principle he believes most value investors still misunderstand—despite decades of evidence from Warren Buffett. In this conversation, we explore why focus investing works, what traditional value investors got wrong about the Magnificent Seven, and how the industry's obsession with low P/E ratios and short-term tracking error leads to missed opportun...
Recession Indicators Are Breaking. Inflation Isn’t | Megan Horneman on What Comes Next 19.06.2025 55:26
Megan Horneman: Fragile Optimism, Hidden Inflation Risks, and What Investors Are Missing In this episode, we’re joined by Megan Horneman, Chief Investment Officer at Verdence Capital Advisors, to discuss her firm’s 2025 outlook and what she sees as the key macro risks and opportunities for investors right now. We explore the themes behind her “Year of Fragile Optimism” thesis, including consumer s...
Broken Data. Hidden Opportunity | GMO's Warren Chiang on Deep Value’s Historic Setup 15.06.2025 57:09
GMO’s Warren Chiang joins us for a deep dive into the art and science of systematic value investing. In this episode, Warren shares how his team has refined traditional value investing to adapt to an intangible-heavy world, the structural reasons deep value is historically cheap today, and how top-down insights from GMO’s asset allocation group are implemented in practice. We also explore how ESG,...
Blind to Power: The Hidden Investing Risk of Rising Strongmen | Peter Atwater 12.06.2025 59:23
In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler sits down with Peter Atwater—President of Financial Insyghts, author of The Confidence Map, and expert on decision-making under uncertainty. Peter lays out a bold and timely framework: in a world led by dominant nationalist figures, global corporations—and their investors—must now navigate a high-stakes game of being labeled either beneficiaries or v...
Finding Great GARP Stocks with David Giroux 09.06.2025 1:01:01
David Giroux, CIO and Head of Investment Strategy at T. Rowe Price Investment Management, has achieved something rare in investing—beating his Morningstar peer group for 17 consecutive years. In this conversation, Giroux shares his investment philosophy, including how he identifies GARP (growth at a reasonable price) opportunities, adapts to market inefficiencies, and constructs a resilient portfo...
The $9 Trillion Risk | Rupert Mitchell on the Unwind of US Dominance - And What Comes After It 07.06.2025 53:33
In this episode of Excess Returns, Matt Zeigler sits down with Rupert Mitchell—founder of Blind Squirrel Macro—for an insightful, opinionated, and often humorous discussion on global market dynamics, the Mag 7, structural portfolio shifts, and what it takes to be a successful generalist investor. From the “Chart of Truth” to the hidden value in tire stocks, Rupert brings decades of experience and...
Inside a Top Quant's Playbook | Joe Gubler on the Hidden Drivers of Alpha 05.06.2025 1:07:40
🎙️ Inside Causeway’s Quant Playbook | Joe Gubler on Factor Innovation, Risk, and Portfolio Design In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Joe Gubler, Director of Quantitative Research at Causeway Capital. Joe shares a deep dive into Causeway’s distinctive approach to factor investing, blending traditional quant signals with fundamental insights, and building models that adapt to market...
Big Decline. Big Rally. What the Charts Tell Us About What Comes Next | Katie Stockton 02.06.2025 54:58
In this episode of Excess Returns, we welcome back Katie Stockton, founder and managing partner of Fairlead Strategies, for a deep dive into the current state of the market through the lens of technical analysis. Katie walks us through her outlook on U.S. and international equities, key sector rotations, and the signals her indicators are sending about what’s next. We also explore the strategy beh...
The Stimulus Deception | Rob Arnott Explains What Economists Are Getting Wrong 31.05.2025 55:40
In this episode of Excess Returns, we welcome back Research Affiliates founder Rob Arnott to explore his provocative research challenging mainstream economic assumptions. Rob walks us through why government stimulus often fails to deliver real growth, how decades of rising spending have shaped today’s economic environment, and what the implications are for debt, deficits, and future returns. We al...
The Hidden Logic of Options | Put-Call Parity Explained with Legos 28.05.2025 29:25
In this episode of Teach Me Like I'm 5, options expert Kris Abdelmessih breaks down one of the most foundational—and misunderstood—concepts in options trading: put-call parity. Using Lego analogies, homemade spreadsheets, and Fast & Furious references, Kris shows how options are like building blocks you can combine to create any payoff you want—including replicating a stock itself. Whether...
Too Much Google, Tesla, Nvidia? | Wes Gray & Sri Narayan Explain a Smarter Way Out 24.05.2025 56:08
In this episode of Excess Returns, we dive deep into one of the most complex and pressing issues facing successful investors today: what to do with concentrated stock positions. Whether from employee stock compensation or a major investment win, holding too much of a single stock presents serious tax and diversification challenges. Our guests—Wes Gray of Alpha Architect, Sri Narayan of Cache Finan...
The Fourth Turning Is Now | Neil Howe on the Coming Financial Reset and Who Rebuilds What’s Broken 17.05.2025 53:11
What does it mean to come of age during chaos—and how does that shape the generations who must lead us through it? In this thought-provoking episode of Rabbit Hole, Dave Nadig speaks with Neil Howe—author of The Fourth Turning Is Here—about the evolving role of Gen X in today's world, the generational dynamics underpinning societal shifts, and what history teaches us about crisis, community, a...
What Investors Get Wrong About Trade Wars | Kai Wu 14.05.2025 56:05
In this episode of Excess Returns, Kai Wu of Sparkline Capital returns to break down his latest research piece, Investing Amid Trade Wars. Using over two dozen insightful visuals, Kai explores how investors should think about global trade exposure in an era of rising tariffs, economic nationalism, and geopolitical uncertainty. He makes the case for staying invested in high-quality multinational co...
The Retail Rally Trap | Kris Sidial on Market Fragility and the Risks of Buy the Dip 06.05.2025 59:52
In this episode, Kris Sidial joins Jack Forehand and Brent Kochuba to break down the mechanics of tail risk hedging, why most volatility strategies fail, and how his team approaches dislocations in the market. We explore what's really driving volatility behind the scenes, the evolving market structure, and why the current environment may be far more precarious than it appears. If you’ve ever wonde...
Mag Seven Margin Crunch | Cameron Dawson on Tariffs, Recession Risk and the Defensive Investing Trap 03.05.2025 51:50
Are we heading toward a recession—or just stuck in macroeconomic purgatory? In this episode of Excess Returns, Dave Nadig and Matt Zeigler sit down with Cameron Dawson, CIO of NewEdge Wealth, to explore the uncertain territory between headline-driven panic and hard data reality. From the implications of sweeping tariffs to the capital account war no one's talking about, Cameron offers one of the s...
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