Steve Magness, Brad Stulberg, & Clay Skipper

excellence, actually

"excellence, actually" is a podcast from The Growth Equation, hosted by Steve Magness, Brad Stulberg, and Clay Skipper. Drawing on their years of working and corresponding with Olympians, coaches, executives, world-class physicians, and other elite-level achievers in their coaching practice and professional careers, they give you the mental and physical tools, practices, habits, and frameworks used by the best in the world in the pursuit of excellence. Each episode will give you concrete ideas and tips to use in your life immediately to help you become more meaningfully engaged in the pursuits...

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Steve Magness, Brad Stulberg, & Clay Skipper

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Oct 22, 2026

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Episodes

068 - A Mindset Shift to Make Your Life Easier 26.08.2024

The psychologist and philosopher Erich Fromm argued that there are two fundamental orientations we can bring to the world: a having orientation and a being orientation. The difference between the two—which Brad lays out today, and in his most recent book, Master of Change—is the difference between getting stuck in your identity, and being durable, flexible, and versatile over the course of one's l...

067 - How to Stay Motivated for the Long Haul 22.08.2024

When times get difficult, people often turn to sport and fitness to help. It's a way to build confidence and mental strength, and an outlet for frustration. But if that's why you get into athletics, what happens when you get your life back on track? Can you still have the same drive? That's the opening question of today's episode, but it leads into a broader discussion about how to navigate change...

066 - The Coach Up: 5 Rules for a Better Routine 19.08.2024

There's plenty of information out there about the "best" routine for your morning, your night, and every time in between. Of course, as we always say, there is no "best" anything. What works for one person may not work for another. That being said, there are some general guidelines that can help you think through how to build the daily routines that are most effective for you. Here, Brad shares hi...

065 - The (Underrated) Mental & Physical Benefits of Walking 15.08.2024

We all know walking is good for us—but just how good is it, exactly? Today we go deep on running's more leisurely and oftentimes less celebrated (dare we say underrated?) cousin. What are the aerobic benefits of walking? If you're a regular runner, is there a case for why you should mix in more walking? Why is everyone so obsessed with 10,000 daily steps as a metric, and should you be? What is the...

064 - The Coach Up: How to Exercise in the Heat 12.08.2024

If you’re someone who lives in a place with seasons (or decided to travel somewhere especially warm) you might be slogging through heat and humidity during your workouts these days—particularly if you’re training for a fall marathon. Lucky for you, Steve Magness deals with this problem nearly year round since he lives in Houston. So today he offers his best tips for adjusting your workouts and sur...

063 - A World-Class Violinist's Tips for Peak Performance (with Hilary Hahn) 08.08.2024

Hilary Hahn first picked up a violin when she was 3, and made her major orchestral debut at 12. Now in her forties, she has spent four decades playing, and more than thirty of those years playing with some of the best orchestras in the world. Over that time, she has gathered some—actually, A LOT of—wisdom about what goes into an elite performance. Though her experience is in music, her tips are ac...

062 - How Elite Performers Turn Anxiety Into Fuel 05.08.2024

Studies have shown that elite performers—like those we're watching in the Olympics right now—experience the exact same feelings of nervousness and anxiety that we all feel before an important event. But they're experts at turning that anxiety into fuel using a specific psychological tool. Today, Brad breaks down what that tool is and how it can help you next time you have pre-performance jitters....

061 - The Difference Between Greatness and Fake Greatness 01.08.2024

Nike recently released an ad for the Olympics whose message is that you have to be a "bad person"—in the ad's telling, a competitor who lacks empathy, compassion, and respect—to be a winner. So Brad, Steve, and Clay debate: Is this true? Is it possible to be a ruthless competitor and still be a good person? What separates true greatness from pseudo-greatness? And what do we get wrong, culturally a...

060 - The Coach Up: A Tool to Help with Prioritization 29.07.2024

When it comes to being productive, there’s nothing more important that prioritization. You don't just want to get things done; you want to get the right things done. Unfortunately, when life (and our to do list) gets overwhelming, we can resort to just getting through what’s loudest and latest, which means we ignore our important, long-term projects to tend to what’s urgent. That can keep us from...

059 - Olympics Preview: Inside the Olympian's Mindset 25.07.2024

The Olympics kick off tomorrow, so the guys share the events they're most excited for, and discuss the mindsets that the world’s top performers use to gain a mental edge. You’ll get Steve’s breakdown of what to watch for in this year’s most compelling track races, what we expect to see from Simone Biles, thoughts on how the USA’s men’s basketball team will stack up against the international compet...

058 - The Coach Up: Use the 4 P's to Respond Not React 22.07.2024

"Respond, not react." It's easy to say and extremely difficult to do, especially in the heat of the moment. Luckily, Brad has an actionable, four-step plan that will help you respond thoughtfully rather than react emotionally next time you find yourself in a stressful situation. Plus: how you can use affect labeling, self-distancing, and physical exercise to help put the 4 P's into practice. If yo...

057 - BIG NEWS: Introducing The Growth Equation Academy 18.07.2024

This week, we discuss Brad's recent article in The New York Times, and announce some exciting news: On Monday, we launched "The Growth Equation Academy for Human Performance." The Academy is something we created after readers and listeners continue to ask for a place to go deeper on performance and well-being. We couldn't find a program out there that we liked, so we created our own, filled with c...

056 - The Coach Up: RPE (What It Is & How to Use It) 15.07.2024

We live in a data-heavy age, rife with smart watches and fitness trackers. But objective metrics have their limits (such as heat, fatigue, stress, technical difficulties, or when you forget your watch/tracker). In these cases, RPE can be a helpful metric to use, because it's based on feel. Today, Brad explains what it is, how to use it, and how it can be applied outside of physical exercise to lif...

055 - Do You Need Meaningful Work to Have a Good Life? 11.07.2024

In a 2021 Pew Research survey, only 17% of Americans mentioned their work as a source of meaning. But a 2023 poll, also from Pew Research, said 71% of Americans thought that having a job they enjoy was an important element of a fulfilling life. This creates a big disconnect. If we believe meaningful work is important to a good life, but we're struggling to find meaningful work, where does that lea...

054 - The Coach Up: A Short but Effective On-the-Go Workout 08.07.2024

There are many reasons why your workout routine might get disrupted. Maybe you're traveling, maybe something comes up and you have less time than expected, or maybe you just can't get yourself to drive to the gym. In these moments, it's better to try to do something rather than nothing (if you can). So next time you're in a pinch, try the workout from today's Coach Up. It's something you can do in...

053 - Everything You Need to Know About the "Second Wind" 04.07.2024

You're probably familiar with the phenomenon of the "second wind." You're doing something difficult, going all out, giving max effort, and just when you feel like you've hit your wall—BOOM—you get an unexpected surge of energy to push you to the finish line. It's great when it happens, which begs the question: why does it happen? And how can we make it more likely to occur again? Today, the guys b...

052 - The Coach Up: How to (Deep) Read More Books 01.07.2024

Reading is a skill that we may not spend a lot of time trying to improve. But in an age of constant noise and distraction, being able to focus and go deep on a good book isn't just one of life's great pleasures, it's also a way to improve your attentional fitness (not to mention a great way to learn). On a year when he's not writing his own book, Brad can read 50 to 100 books. He shares his tips f...

051 - Does Being a Good Person Make You a Worse Competitor? 27.06.2024

Steve, Brad, and Clay discuss a question posed by the writer and runner Sabrina Little in a recent article (link below) from Aeon titled "Performance-Enhancing Vices:" How do the personality traits that make for better competitors impact moral character? Is it possible that things like envy, selfishness, and pride—traits we'd likely label as "vices"—make us more competitive? Does good character hu...

050 - The Coach Up: The Visual Tool to Win Hard Workouts (or Days) 24.06.2024

We all have hard workouts and hard days. Often, what makes them hard is there's a problem we need to solve. On today's episode, we're going into the FAREWELL archives to pull one of the great problem-solving tools from ultrarunner Courtney Dauwalter's killer toolbox. As you might imagine, many problems creep up when you're running 100+ miles, and Courtney has one visual tool that's proven particul...

049 - Diet, Exercise, and Performance Dos and Don'ts with Adam Bornstein 20.06.2024

Adam Bornstein is a fitness and nutrition expert who has worked with LeBron James and Arnold Schwarzenegger and who came to the world of wellness after breaking his back (twice!) at a young age. It was the 1990's and doctors told him he'd have to change his athletic lifestyle—except for one, who put him through exercises that involved strengthened his core and focused on on functional, load-bearin...

048 - The Coach Up: JJ Redick on the Confidence of an NBA Sharpshooter 17.06.2024

Over the course of his basketball career, JJ Redick carved out a reputation as one of the game's best shooters. (Not to mention one of its smartest minds, which is why he's currently an analyst for the NBA Finals, and rumored to be a leading candidate for the next L.A. Lakers head coaching position.) To be that kind of shooter, you need an unflappable confidence. In 2020, Clay spoked with JJ about...

047 - How to think About Longevity and End-of-Life Health 13.06.2024

In recent years, there has been a growing obsession with longevity and life extension: people interested in improving the quality of their health at the end of their lives (or extending their life altogether). Steve, Brad, and Clay use a recent story from The New Yorker —"No Time to Die" by Dhruv Khullar (link below)—to break down the quest to live longer. How worried should we be about longevity?...

046 - The Coach Up: How (and Why) To Do A Digital Sabbath 10.06.2024

Every week, Brad Stulberg spends either Saturday or Sunday practicing a Digital Sabbath: he goes the day offline and without any of his devices (phone, computer, tablet). It's not because he's anti-technology, but because he wanted to make sure he still had access to many of the aspects of life that tech use can hamper: presence, creativity, silence, and emotional regulation, to name a few. On tod...

045 - The Reason You Can’t Ever Get Through Your To-Do List (with Oliver Burkeman) 06.06.2024

There’s a promise built into all the productivity and time management advice out there: that it’s possible, with the most efficient technique, to finally conquer that feeling that you have too much to do and not enough time to do it. But that’s a false hope, says today’s guest Oliver Burkeman, author of Four Thousand Weeks , which is about why time management strategies so often fail. “You cannot...

044 - The Coach Up: Beginner's Mind and the Power of Pessimism 03.06.2024

Rebecca Rusch is an athlete whose feats of endurance have included two self-supported, 350-mile bike rides on the Iditarod Trail and led a magazine to once dub her the "Queen of Pain." On today's episode of The Coach Up, Clay pulls from a conversation he had with her a few years ago where she shares her surprising approach to mastering her craft. You'll learn about the Zen concept of "Beginner's M...

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