Les Hughes and Jon Sanders
EntrePastors
The EntrePastors Podcast helps pastors think, act, and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs.
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Les Hughes and Jon Sanders
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Feb 21, 2025
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Episodes
#56: Is Ghostwriting a Good Option for Me? With Nick Pavlidis 16.09.2022 43:56
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Nick Pavlidis about the world of ghostwriting. Nick Pavlidis, is a full-time ghostwriter and coach. Before he launched his career as a ghostwriter, Nick spent 13 years practicing law. Since quitting his last job in the legal industry, he has continued to support his family exclusively from his ghostwriting business. He’s personally ghostwritten many books—...
#55: Serving Others in Life’s Most Significant Moments with Wayne Prevette 09.09.2022 52:04
In this episode Jon has a conversation with Wayne Prevette. Wayne, along with his wife Rosanne are the founders of Celebrating Life Inc. As professional Life Celebration Specialists, they have served thousands of people over their 40-years of ministry together. Much of their ministry brings them into the service of people in some of life’s most significant moments such as weddings, funerals, and...
#54: Turning First Responder Chaplaincy Into a Profitable Business With Barry Young 02.09.2022 35:16
In this episode Jon has a conversation with Pastor Barry Young. Barry is the founder of ServingPastors.com, a ministry that serves pastors in multiple ways. Barry is also the founder of ServingHeroes.net, a ministry/business that equips first responder chaplains in the realm of mental health and peer support. Some of the highlights of this conversation are: The mindset shifts Barry had to work...
#53: From Long-Time Dream to Thriving Business with Gwen Rutz 26.08.2022 35:38
In this episode we hear from one of our very own EntrePastors, Gwen Rutz. Gwen and her husband Troy have turned their long-time dream of building a business around their passion for archery into a reality. Gwen shares how their dream came to fruition much faster than she had originally thought possible, due in some part to the encouragement and coaching she received through our EntrePastors comm...
#52: Launching a Low-Content Book Business with Faye Ruch 19.08.2022 41:52
In this episode Jon and Les have a conversation with Faye Ruch. Faye has recently launched a business that produces “low-content” materials such as journals and workbooks for other content creators and pastors. She has done an amazing job creating a workbook for the EntrePastors Roadmap to Financial Freedom and Jon and Les wanted to share her as a great resource for those in our community who co...
#51: Why Strategy Matters 12.08.2022 26:19
In this episode Jon and Les talk about why it’s so important to have a clear strategy to follow as you embark upon your EntrePastor journey. The reality is that big ideas and vision alone will not produce great results. There needs to be a clear plan to follow to help your EntrePastor vision become a reality. Having a clear strategy also helps you overcome a natural sense of being overwhelmed w...
#50: Which Pathway Will Guarantee My Financial Success? 05.08.2022 50:34
In this episode Jon and Les list the three major pathways they are currently encouraging pastors to consider taking on their own entrepreneurial pastor journeys. They offer up some practical advice for someone who may just be getting started down one of these three pathways. In the backstage segment of this episode, Jon shares an update on a recent “pathway pivot” he is taking and talks about the...
#49: Snowflake Pastors 30.07.2022 28:52
In this episode Jon and Les share why it’s so important for pastors to take the time to do some careful self-assessment before starting out on their EntrePastor journey. The truth is we have all been individually and uniquely created by God. As a result, none of our paths will look exactly identical to anyone else’s path. Yet, in ministry, we so often try to align our lives to the models and e...
#48: Three Mindset Shifts Pastors Need to Embrace 22.07.2022 35:25
In this episode Jon and Les share why it’s so important for a pastor to be aware of their mindset around ministry, money, and movement if they want to get out of the financial struggle that is all too real for most pastors. In the backstage portion of this episode Jon and Les share one more mindset shift that pastors need to embrace: I can think my way into a better future. Links & Resourc...
#47: A Pastor's Roadmap to Financial Freedom 15.07.2022 46:57
In this episode Jon and Les make a huge announcement about the new and improved success path they have defined to help pastors achieve financial freedom. Jon and Les share how pastors can break away from a place of poverty and scarcity and move toward financial abundance and margin in their lives. The newly defined success path helps pastors in four primary ways: Mindset - We will help you exp...
#46: Healthy Hustle with Cole & Eva Phillips 08.07.2022 46:32
In this episode Jon has a conversation with Cole and Eva Phillips. Cole and Eva have served in pastoral ministry for many years now. At one point along their pastoral journey, they found themselves financially broke and desperate for a better way of funding their lives and ministry. Today they own and operate several very successful businesses. They have even reached a place where they’ve bee...
#45: Understanding Your Calling With Rhett Wilson 01.07.2022 48:00
In this episode Jon has a conversation with Rhett Wilson. In addition to serving in pastoral ministry for over 20 years, Rhett also has a successful business as a freelance writer, ghostwriter, copywriter, and editor. One of the big ideas Rhett unpacks in this conversation is the reality that our calling is not synonymous with a task, like pastoring. Instead, we are called to a person…Jesus…a...
#44: Business + Mission = B.O.O.M. with Mike Thakur 24.06.2022 54:04
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Mike Thakur. Mike tried serving for a season in a traditional pastoral role, but quickly learned that God had gifted him for ministry in the marketplace. Mike has a passion for kingdom focused entrepreneurship and seeks to help others embrace God’s plan to change the world through missions. Some of the topics we discuss in this interview are: Mike’s mantra...
#43: The Wealth of Connection (with Vincent Pugliese) 17.06.2022 49:25
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Vincent Pugliese. Among many other amazing accomplishments, Vincent is the author of The Wealth of Connection: A New Approach to Making Business Personal . Vincent believes that so much of the entrepreneurial world is people first creating a product, then trying to hustle to get others to buy their product. And in their rush to hustle and sell, many people...
#42: A Better Funding Model for Missions (with Katie Hornor) 10.06.2022 50:11
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Katie Hornor, the founder and CEO of Handprint Legacy. Katie and her family have served as missionaries in Mexico for many years. They started their missionary journey under a traditional funding model that had them traveling, raising financial support from outside donors, and ultimately being dependent upon those donations for ongoing support. However, a...
#41: More Than a Pastor (with Rich Avery) 03.06.2022 48:53
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Rich Avery from “More Than A Pastor.” Rich has served in pastoral ministry for over 20 years. All throughout his ministry he has been drawn to, and often had involvement in, other entrepreneurial pursuits in addition to his pastoral work. His newest business is focused on helping other pastors just like himself realize that they too are “more than a pastor....
#40: Helping Pastors Preach Better Online Sermons with David Murrow 27.05.2022 43:56
In this episode Jon and Les talk with David Murrow about his new course that is helping pastors preach better online sermons. David has spent his career working as a successful television producer, director, and storyteller. He has a passion for helping pastors do a better job of connecting with their audiences both in person and online. David is a great example of someone in our community wh...
#39: From Pastor to Ghostwriter with Kent Sanders 20.05.2022 48:00
In this episode Jon and Les have a conversation with Kent Sanders. A few years ago Kent made a transition out of pastoral ministry and into a full-time career as a ghostwriter. Here are some of the topics Kent shared with us in this interview: Many pastors are unaware of how possible and profitable a side hustle as a ghostwriter could be. It’s important to have the right mindset around “quitting...
#38: Six Components of a Fail-Proof Business Plan 13.05.2022 32:55
In this episode Jon and Les pull back the curtain to share some details of their journey building out the EntrePastors platform. As they do this, they share the following six components of a fail-proof business plan that is helping them achieve success in their business: Set your goals and have a plan. Take action! Get the right people around you. Accept the fact that you are in sales! Be willin...
#37: Transferring Pastoral Skills to the Marketplace (with Ioannis Gratsinopoulos) 06.05.2022 39:49
Meet Ioannis (pronounced “Yani”) Gratsinopoulos. Initially, Ioannis resisted the thought of being an entrepastor. He really only ever wanted to be a full-time pastor. Due to some circumstances in his life however, he found himself in the marketplace in addition to serving as a pastor. But he soon discovered that many of the skills that helped him be successful in pastoral ministry were also hi...
#36: Keep Your Day Job 29.04.2022 31:37
One trait that is common among entrepreneurs is the thrill of the start-up. Often we enjoy going “all-in” on new projects or pursuing our latest idea. Sometimes we are even tempted to walk away from our day job as we believe it’s holding us back from experiencing success in our newest side hustle. In this episode Jon and Les discuss this tendency and offer up the challenge to “keep your day job...
#35: Setting Healthy Expectations as an EntrePastor (with Kevin Peyton) 22.04.2022 43:58
Meet Kevin Peyton. In addition to serving as a pastor, Kevin has been very successful with a few restaurant franchises. He also runs a nonprofit ministry that is making a significant impact in his community and beyond. In this episode you will hear Kevin talk about: How he took a non-traditional route into pastoral ministry. How he sets healthy expectations with his church when it comes to his...
Profitable Ministry to Marriages (with Tony and Alisa DiLorenzo) 15.04.2022 45:44
In this episode Jon and Les talk with Tony and Alisa DiLorenzo about their business that ministers to married couples. Tony and Alisa are the hosts of the ONE Extraordinary Marriage Podcast. They have also written a book called The 6 Pillars of Intimacy. They offer live events and coaching with couples as well. They are a great example of how someone can leverage a message in a way that serves...
#33: How to Increase My Capacity as an EntrePastor 08.04.2022 46:19
For most pastors, becoming an EntrePastor will require LEVELING-UP! In this episode Jon and Les share some key areas where pastors will likely need to increase their capacity in order to succeed as EntrePastors. If we desire to get to the next level in our lives, it will often require that we increase our capacity in some key areas including: Knowledge Time Finances Thinking Relationships Physical...
#32: Part-Time Pastoring, Part Two (with Sean Benesh) 01.04.2022 42:46
In this episode Jon and Les have a conversation with Sean Benesh. Sean co-authored the book Part-Time Pastoring: Leading God’s People by Integrating Faith and Work . Not only does Sean serve as a pastor/church planter, he also has developed multiple other streams of income through various skills, passions, and abilities that God has given him. Show Notes & Resources: In the backstage portion...
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