Josh Lavine
Enneagram Interviews: What It's Like To Be You
Intimate interviews with all Enneagram types. Produced by The Enneagram School & hosted by Josh Lavine. Watch on YouTube @TheEnneagramSchool.
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Josh Lavine
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Nov 25, 2025
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#38: Somatic Experiencing® & Alexander Technique with Tracy Einstein — Opening the Brain-Body Superhighway 18.09.2024 1:15:42
Tracy Einstein is a Somatic Experiencing® practitioner and Alexander Technique teacher. We talk all about the body, how it holds and releases trauma, and how she works with clients. Tracy's Enneagram type is SPSO (Self-preservation / Social) 9w1. Enjoy! Links Tracy's Website The Enneagram School Deb Dana's website (Teacher of Polyvagal Theory ) Book mentioned Nurturing Resilience: Helpi...
#37: Dreams & the Enneagram — Kristen Oberly & Kaisa Jauhiainen 20.08.2024 1:24:18
Kristen Oberly & Kaisa Jauhiainen -- aka The Dream Girls (minus Sammy!) -- are brilliant pioneers who have discovered the connection between their unconscious dream worlds and their instinctual drives and Enneagram type, and they have convinced me of the power of working with Dreams for personal transformation. They are offering a class through the Enneagram School starting 9/15 to help you de...
#36: Kim (SP/SO 7w6 712) - Surviving Trauma, EMDR Therapy, Avoiding Entrapment, and Settling the Mental Froth 19.07.2024 2:21:39
"I'm a manifester like nobody is.... No doesn't work for me. I don't even know what no means. No means I gotta think about it in a different way." ~ Kim Jozwiak --- WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE The Enneagram School Website --- Kim Jozwiak [SP/SO 7w6 712] is a therapist and trauma survivor whose life story blew me away. As a therapist, she works with EMDR therapy, Internal Family Systems...
#35: How to Activate Your Sexual Instinct — John Luckovich & Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo 01.07.2024 1:19:17
Join John Luckovich and Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo for a Summertime class on the Sexual Instinct at The Enneagram School. Links The Sexual Instinct Class at The Enneagram School The Enneagram School Home Page John Luckovich [SX/SP 4w5] is Co-Founder of The Enneagram School, author of The Instinctual Drives and the Enneagram, and co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast. Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo...
#34: Chanti (SX/SP 7w6 794) — Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want 14.06.2024 1:32:54
"I think it's my purpose in life to leave an imprint on people or places I go. Maybe it's like little seeds that I plant or pixie dust I spread around and it blooms a little bit. I just love that." Full Title: Chanti, Type 7 - Magically Enhancing My Environment, Having Fun, and Getting (Away With) What I Want Chanti [SX/SP 7w6 794] is a fascinating and magical human being living in Belgium....
#33: Russ Hudson, Type 5: Isolation, Hyperfocus, & Escaping to Emptiness 14.05.2024 1:27:49
"When we live inside a pattern, we don't know that we're living inside a pattern, which is why it's hard for people to type themselves. We just think that's reality. It's like the Johari box, there's what we don't know what we don't know. And I didn't know how desperately disconnected I was. I didn't feel as a child that was missing out on anything. I thought I was just fine. I thought watching th...
#32: Bob Fecas (SO/SP 2w1 279) — Personal Touch, Saintly Inspiration, & Having a Special Place in Others' Life 30.04.2024 1:33:58
“I simply drove to this person’s house right away when I was feeling this rejection and said, listen I’m sitting outside in the car if you want to come out and talk. You know, but I didn’t go to the door and knock. I didn’t want to intrude. I want to respect his freedom. But at the same time I want to say “Hey let’s move on and see what’s happening, and if things need to shift and if I have missed...
#31 The Work of Byron Katie with Todd Smith — How to Question Stressful Thoughts 16.04.2024 2:16:44
"I've often heard people talk about The Work of Byron Katie as the "how"... there's the "what" of spiritual development... you know freedom, what it looks like... it's described so well in terms of Essence in the Enneagram. There are many ways to talk about it in many traditions. And there are many ways in terms of the how. But Byron Katie's is such a simple and accessible how. Like, take this ste...
#30: Gendlin's Focusing with Sandy Jahmi Burg — How to Listen to Your Body 02.04.2024 1:24:08
Sandy Jahmi Burg is a facilitator of Gendlin's Focusing -- the most powerful method of tapping into body intelligence that I've encountered. In this interview, we define it, demo it, and debrief. Enjoy. WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE Learn Focusing with Sandy The Enneagram School's Website Timestamps 0:00 Intro 3:46 What is Focusing? 6:30 The "felt-sense" implies "life-forward" movement 10:02 The...
#29 Yamira (SO/SX 5w4 531) — High Stakes Art, Grief & Creativity, & Crossing the Bridge to an "Other" 18.03.2024 1:17:08
Yamira [SO/SX 5w4 531] is an artist in New York. Watch this interview on YouTube so you can see Yamira's art as she talks about it. WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE Yamira's Art Yamira's Social @mossyscabs @_brujaja The Enneagram School Get Officially Typed by Enneagrammer Timestamps 0:00 Intro 1:49 Why make art? 7:34 Grief losing whole portfolio of art (!) 10:49 What was the Grief like? 12:...
#28: Kelly (SO/SX 5w6 512) — Unnecessary Emotions, Rejection-Attachment Relationship Dynamics, Doing My Own Thing 26.10.2023 1:35:15
Kelly Ayadi [SO/SX 5w6 512] is frequenter of online Enneagram forums and a somewhat more "relational" type 5 than might be typical, given her double-people instinctual stacking and 2 fix. In this conversation, we talk about her childhood "doing her own thing" and her relationship with her 9 partner, her kids, and her family. Kelly's framing of certain emotions as "unnecessary" is illuminating, as...
#27 BONUS EP: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Engagement in the Mental Center, Finding Truth in the Body, & Cultivating Inner Authority 10.10.2023 1:46:47
I present to you the audio of the infamous Mascara Incident (which we don't talk about). This was recorded in December 2022, about 9 months before Courtney's official video interview. In this conversation, we explore Courtney's experience as an Attachment type in the Mental center, her typing journey (starting at 1, landing on 6), and her 6-ish journey to uncovering original insights about Object...
#26: Courtney Smith (SO/SP 6w5 631) — Outsourcing Agency, the Call to Self-Responsibility, Playfulness 03.10.2023 1:30:25
Courtney Smith [SO/SP 6w5 631] is a brilliant & original Enneagram thinker who has contributed hugely to our understanding of Object Relations. In this conversation, we explore her life as a 6 navigating her desire to work within systems and to rebel against them, and ultimately cultivating a more grounded relationship to her inner authority. Courtney's insights are illuminating and penetratin...
#25: Siena (SX/SO 8w7 827) — Immediacy in Movement Art, the Mystery of Fighting, & the Innocent Heart of the 8 30.08.2023 1:28:12
Siena Hassett [SX/SO 8w7 827] is a Theatre Maker, Movement Artist, and someone who really embodies the virtue of the 8 -- Innocence: the joyful unselfconscious expression of one's life-force, and the willingness to be affected by one's environment. Siena is so alive and engaging, and I couldn't help but be moved by her wide open presence in this conversation. I really appreciate how we moved from...
#24: Alexandra (SO/SP 9w1 963) — Triple-Attachment Life, Choosing What's "Mine," & Discovering Friendship Intimacy 16.08.2023 1:36:41
Alexandra Arroyo-Acevedo [SO/SP 9w1 963(154)] is a brilliant Enneagram thinker with a very evocative and inspiring triple attachment life story. There’s no one I trust more to explain Attachment from the inside. Alexandra’s insights have been transformative for me, and for many in our community. Find her on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast, on YouTube doing Enneagram breakdowns of the Bachelorett...
#23: Kristen Oberly (SO/SP 9w1 963) – Dreamwork, Depersonalization, and Coming (Back to) Life via the Unconscious [SO/SP 9w1 963] 22.07.2023 1:28:37
Kristen Oberly [SO/SP 9w1 963(172)] is an exceptionally gifted dream analyst, artist, and guide for the unconscious realm. We explore her misdiagnosis with paranoid schizophrenia, her bouts with depersonalization, and the way she has come back home to herself by following her fascination with the unconscious. A very interesting and particular case of Social Bermuda 9, but the core 9 themes are cer...
#22: Sarah Round 2 MetaConvo (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Attachment Games, Rupture & Repair Cycles, and Realtime Conversation Dynamics [SO/SP 9w1 937] 14.06.2023 1:18:49
Round 2 with Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937]. A conversation ABOUT our last conversation, and a very personal look at both of our attachment games. I loved this. WATCH THIS INTERVIEW ON YOUTUBE Sarah's Links Sarah's Music 1 Sarah's Music 2 Sarah's Podcast Sarah's Instagram Learn the Enneagram at The Enneagram School . Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 3:29 Setting up the convo -- why we're here 7:56 First clip 9:...
#21: Sarah (SO/SP 9w1 937) — Positive Outlook Spin, Blurring Fantasy & Reality (and Gaslighting), and Finding Your No [SO/SP 9w1 937] 07.06.2023 1:27:45
Sarah [SO/SP 9w1 937] is getting her PhD in psychology en route to becoming a therapist. In this conversation, Sarah is quite open and courageous in sharing what it's like for her on the inside of her "swirly 9-7 stem" energy and speaking style and her positive outlook vibes. We also how she accidentally gaslights partners without knowing it, because of how she can blur inner fantasy with outer re...
#20: Emily (SO/SP 8w9 836) — Enneagram Skepticism, Social Power Dynamics, Untouchable Independence, Sensitivity 12.05.2023 56:32
Emily [SO/SP 8w9 836] is a beautiful example of a heart-forward 8 who has done significant inner work and values her sensitivity. We get into what it means to be in a social "power position," why that's important for her, and what it means to value her vulnerability, among other things. Really good, high resolution introspection. Emily graduated from Yale undergrad and Oxford business school. She...
#19: Czan (SO/SP 9w1 953) – Twice an Immigrant, Toggling "Existing" On/Off, & Owl Medicine 28.04.2023 1:15:43
Czan [SO/SP 9w1 953] is a software engineer for a gaming company and currently lives in the US. He's an original Enneagram thinker, and "Attachment to Disconnect" is his profound insight into how Attachment types create situations to continue reaching for connection, rather than stably connecting. Czan has experience with various inner work modalities and has excellent insights about being an Enne...
#18: Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) — Being Good at Things, Identity Experiments, and Choosing to Live 19.04.2023 1:16:26
TRIGGER WARNING: sensitive content. Nancy Walter (SP/SO 3w4 369) is a co-host on the Big Hormone Enneagram podcast and is currently navigating graduate school in genetics. In this extremely candid interview, we talk about Nancy's childhood, wrestling with severe depression and mental health issues (possibly undiagnosed autism, according to her), her self-discovery through competence in knife sales...
#17: Charles (SO/SP 9w8 963) — Resensitizing After 20 Numb Years, the Goldilocks Zone, Being “Cool” Not Meticulous 15.02.2023 1:05:44
Charles is a 42 year old father of four that's been married for more than half his life. He’s started multiple businesses and currently runs a small internet marketing and web agency. He self-describes as a “body type that speaks from the gut while trying to make social connections.” In this interview, we explore what his 8 “rejection” wing does to his core 9 attachment, his meandering, relaxed co...
#16: Kier (SO/SP 3w2 358) — Hiddenness and Secrecy, Avoiding Introspection Through Constant Activity, and Not Giving Up on the Heart 24.01.2023 1:27:14
Kier [SO/SP 3w2 358(267)] is a trial lawyer, dad, and frequent commenter on Enneagram discussion boards like the Enneagrammer Universe Facebook group. This is our second conversation — we didn’t publish the first one for reasons we explore in the interview. This is a really special conversation that captures a 3 (and 3w2, 358 trifix no less) freshly embarking on the journey of interior...
#15: Emma Scott (SO/SP 6w7 612) — Resentful Accommodation, Making Things a Bigger Problem Than They Need To Be, and Getting Present in the Mental Center 11.01.2023 1:11:14
Emma is an Enneagram coach and mom, and she has her own podcast called There Are No Tangents. In this conversation, you get to see Emma model presence in the mental center as she incorporates a new insight about herself with rather amazing openness. Her self-owns about accommodating people resentfully and "throwing a stink" are charming and helpful distinctions regarding 6s duality of being both a...
#14: Jamie Eichar (SP/SO 9w1 963) — Being a Comforting Presence, Making Space For Yourself in Conversations, Rebelling Against Pressure 29.11.2022 1:10:21
Jamie (SP/SO 9w1 963) is an gifted cinematographer, an aspiring therapist, and a good friend that I met in my first Enneagram class. He has committed to his inner work in extremely courageous ways and has great language for the inner experience of 9-ness, especially what it's like to "numb out," to drift into invisibility, and to speak up for himself in relationships. This is a great, user friendl...
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