Luke Callier and Mathew Irving
EdLeaders Australia
This is the podcast for Aspiring, Middle and Senior Leaders in Education. Each week we dive into a topic to talk leadership, strategy, culture and the business of K-12 education to define what success looks like in an educational setting in the 2020's and beyond. Our mission for the podcast is to create the best free professional learning on the internet for school leaders. Hosted by Mat Irving and Luke Callier. Covering school leadership, education leadership, school leaders, principals.
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Jun 28, 2026
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Episodes
E26 - Catherine Misson - The Responsibility of Leadership | Principal of Havergal College 10.06.2021 51:24
In this episode we chat with Catherine Misson, Principal of Havergal College in Toronto, Canada and former Principal of Melbourne Girls Grammar. You can connect with Catherine on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-misson/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to s...
E25 - Phillip Heath AM - Head of Barker College 19.05.2021 41:21
In this episode, we chat with Phillip Heath, the Head of College at Barker College in Sydney about being a leader and advocate for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Students, a champion for reconciliation and how we as the next cohort of leaders can help shape the education landscape to address the education gap for first nations peoples. There's no easy answers or right answers in this space...
E24 - Dr Paul Browning, Headmaster at St Pauls School in Brisbane 22.04.2021 48:20
In this episode, we chat with Dr Paul Browning, Headmaster at St Pauls School in Brisbane You can connect with Dr Paul on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauldbrowning/ As always if you have questions, or feedback or have a suggestion from a leader you'd like to hear from - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ to signup for the newsletter, or follow us on Linked In at Edleaeders...
Ep 23 | Rocky Collins - Distributed School, Connected Leadership 31.03.2021 50:03
In this episode, we chat with Rocky Collins, Principal of SEDA College WA. Rocky takes us through his journey into leadership at SEDA, the distributed nature of the College and how that impacts on his leadership style and how he embeds relationships at the centre of their educational model. Student Agency and Student Voice - how they listen to students and how this helps them in being agile and en...
Ep 22 | Dr. John Collier - Work Life Meaning 21.03.2021 45:30
In this episode, we chat with Dr. John Collier, Principal of St Andrew's Cathedral School and the Gawura School in Sydney. Dr. John takes us through some of the most challenging aspects of being a school leader and discusses the types of leadership required in the most challenging moments as well as at different points of the journey. He discusses whether the Masters of Educational Leadership, the...
E21 - ACEL WA Panel with Valerie Gould, Lisa Rodgers & Dr Debra Sayce | Leadership Challenges and Opportunities - A View from System Leaders 16.03.2021 1:14:13
What are the challenges and opportunities facing educational leaders in 2021? In this episode, we deviate from our traditional chat or interview and instead hit the road with the mic to a panel discussion featuring the three system leaders in WA - exploring what the new normal of education might just look like in 2021. The panel featured Valerie Gould (Executive Director at the Association o...
Ep20 - Allan Shaw | Principal of The Knox School 04.03.2021 54:45
In this episode, we chat with Alan Shaw, Principal and CEO of The Knox School in Melbourne. We journey with Allan as he takes us through the highs and lows of his time as a young Founding Principal of Peter Moyes Anglican School in Perth, to the advocacy role as CEO of AHISA and how that impacted his current role as the Principal at The Knox School. He speaks candidly about some of the real challe...
E19 | Making Student Agency Real - A Journey into Micro-credentials. 24.02.2021 46:20
In this episode Luke and Mat discuss student agency in schools, why it is important, and how it continues to evolve in Schools, as well as a long discussion and look under the hood of the Micro-credential program Mat and Luke are implementing in 2021. Including: What do Micro-credentials mean for students? The types of micro-credentials being run. Opening up students to life skills, vocational ski...
Ep 18 - Paul Teys | Boards, Brands and Student Success 17.02.2021 41:21
In this episode Mat and Luke chat with Paul Teys - Principal at Hunter Valley Grammar School between 2008-2020 and former AHISA board member 2015-2019. The conversation talks about navigating principalship, how boards have evolved over the last 20 years and how they can best support principals, the need for more to be done for cross-school leadership development in the independent sector and what...
E17 - 2020 Review with Mat & Luke 27.12.2020 48:42
In this episode Mat and Luke review our biggest takeaways from 2020, where strategy might be heading and how we went with our to learn lists. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ma...
E16 - Kim Edwards - Lessons from Leadership 20.12.2020 1:01:51
In this episode with Kim Edwards, we discuss the lessons she's learned from 30 years in leadership roles in school, how data and evidence should be contributing to teaching and leadership and what will the future of edtech look like. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Cal...
Ep 15 - Dr. Shane Glasson - Leadership and Learning Agility, the 7 Traits Educational Leaders Must Have 16.12.2020 50:33
In this episode we chat with Dr Shane Glasson FACEL (WA, National) about identifying potential leaders, using data in leader recruitment, learning agility and the 7 traits educational leaders must have to be great leaders. Shane has a wealth of knowledge, 7 degrees, and over 30 years of experience in education, with the last 15 years in Catholic Education WA's Head Office in system-wide roles. As...
Ep 14 - Paul Belton - Principal at St Pauls College, Adelaide 08.11.2020 41:23
As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to https://www.edleaders.com.au/ and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter. You can also connect with us at LinkedIn: Luke Callier - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljcallier/ Mathew Irving - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathew-irving-b6b91430/
Ep 13 - Steve Byrne - Leading Change. Principal at Sacred Heart College, Adelaide 25.10.2020 43:50
Being a change maker isn’t easy. Steve Byrne has undertaken some huge change projects during his principalships including taking a school co-ed and amalgamating three schools into two and in this episode we dive into that, how he manages his relationship with the chair and how to think about your career strategically. As always if you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to...
Ep 12 - John Burke - Building a School and School Culture from Day Zero 12.10.2020 38:53
In this episode, we chat with the Principal of Bob Hawke College, John Burke. John has a wealth of leadership experience in senior high schools in WA, including principalships at Belrdige Secondary College, Hedland Senior High School, and an Associate Principal role at Gilmore College. We talk about what John sees as the fundamental roles of schools, his continued growth as a leader, what he's loo...
Ep 11 - Rob Beveridge and Coaching a Winning Culture in Schools 24.09.2020 54:40
In this episode, we chat with high-performance basketball coach Rob Beveridge. With 300+ NBL games and experience at both Junior and Senior National World Championships - Rob has some experience when coaching to get the best from his team. We discuss how School Leaders should consider what their team is like when providing coaching and how to set up structures to empower your team to become leader...
Ep 10 - Professor Gary Martin | Why Building a Social Media Profile is Important for School Leaders 15.08.2020 42:37
In this episode we chat with Professor Gary Martin, CEO of the Australian Institute of Management Western Australia. We discuss how School Leaders should be embracing Social Media in order to tell both their story and the story of the school. We also touch on how boards should be empowering leaders to make this part of their role and how and why it will help your school in the long run and G...
Ep 9 - Recruiting Great Leaders with Fiona Hutton 10.07.2020 1:01:47
In this episode we are joined by Fiona Hutton, Director of Hutton Consulting. Hutton Consulting is one of Australia’s leading executive search companies and specialises in attracting, sourcing, growing and transitioning school leaders across Australia. Recently they've placed Executive Leaders at Haileybury, Walford Anglican School, Ballarat Grammar, De La Salle College and Wesle...
Ep 8 - Culture. We all talk about it, but what is it really? 21.06.2020 46:40
The definition of a culture is the patterns of behaviour in a group of people. But is it that simple? In this episode we dive into what this means in a school context and discuss how its both visible and invisible, seen and unseen. When culture is great or poor, people know it when they feel it but can’t always describe it. But how do we as school leaders guide, shape and influence culture? Ultima...
Ep 7 - Strategy in Schools 29.05.2020 41:25
In this weeks episode we dive into what is Strategy, how it shapes up in comparison to coporate strategy and Mat takes us through his version of Strategy 1.0, Strategy 2.0 and Strategy 3.0 in Schools. Enjoy. If you have questions, or feedback or love the show - head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter.
Ep 6 - Strategic Thinking 24.05.2020 51:02
In this episode we look at Strategic Thinking and the skills you need to develop in order to be a better Strategic Thinker.
Ep 5 - The Challenge of 'To Learn' Lists 17.05.2020 45:03
In this episode we dive into "to learn lists' and we run through how we went going through the process ourselves in creating our own "to learn lists". Enjoy. We'd love to hear your feedback on what you like or don't like about the show... head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newsletter.
Ep 4 - Lifelong Learning 13.05.2020 53:58
In this episode - we break down 4 of the habits of life long learning, discuss the fascinating Eton College response to the Coronavirus Issues facing education in the UK and look at absenteeism data across a selection of Australian Schools during remote learning. If you have questions, feedback or just love the show - head on over to edleaders.com.au and send us an email or sign up for the newslet...
Ep 3 - Nine Traits of Exceptional Staff 01.05.2020 57:40
In this episode Mat and I discuss a list of the 9 traits on an exceptional employee and how they stand out of the crowd. Interesting for both leaders and employees alike to consider how they think the 9 traits apply to themselves. If you like the show, please head over to our website to signup for our regular newsletter and if you have a question or a topic you'd like us to dive into on the...
Ep 2 - Digital Devices in Schools, University Entry & Schools with No Timetables 18.02.2020 30:20
A dive into the latest conversation in Education, using devices in schools, direct entry to university and schools with no timetables. **Post publish note - this episode was recorded pre-covid, in a future episode we will review our discussions on laptops as learning tools and how many attitudes shifted with the covid challenge.
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