Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)

Prologue This week's guest is always a great interview. Gadi Evron has been around the industry longer than it's been an officially named discipline. In this episode, he talks about post-breach standards and the apparent but not previously discussed need. He also breaks your brain with disinformation, which we only lightly touch on before realizing we need at least one more podcast to go...

Prologue We've covered "threat intelligence" on the show a few times now, but the evolving nature of what threat data is, how it's useful, and how it enables defenders of a specific type identify malicious activity keep it interesting. This time around Adam Meyers of CrowdStrike joins Rafal to discuss threat intelligence, threat hunting, and clarifies some of the mis-conception...

Prologue "Just do the basics!" "Remember the security fundamentals." ...sick of hearing those catch phrases without anything to actually get it DONE? Yeah, us too. This week we're joined by John Scimone of Dell Technologies to talk about his take on fundamentals both security and IT. His approach is not  unique , per se, but it's one that works and it's repeatabl...

Prologue This week, long-time friend and well-known industry personality, Jessica Hebenstreit joins Rafal to talk about her journey in consulting to very large security programs and why maturity is elusive in many of those programs. As it turns out, maturity is influenced by many factors but highly dependent on actually solving problems and being able to show progress. This is an interesting conve...

Prologue This week on the podcast, the one and only Tom Eston joins Rafal & James to talk about managing teams. Tom is a well-known personality who runs the "Shared Security Show" podcast -- which has been running even longer than we have, give them a listen if you don't already. Tom talks about the difficulties of managing, coping with various types of personalities, and helpin...

Prologue It's always a pleasure to have someone on the show who is an expert in their trade, someone who has experience, expertise, and depth of understanding like few others. In this case, James and I host Jim tiller - one of the people I consider a mentor and long-time friend, who is all of those things and more. Jim is a quintessential expert on cybersecurity services - and in this discuss...

Prologue James has been talking about "shift left" for a while so when Jeff Williams posted interesting research on LinkedIn - we jumped on an opportunity to have him on the show to talk about the subject. Let's face it, everyone is shifting left, and most of this is just marketing nonsense, but some of it is actually an attempt to push security "earlier" into the cycles -...

Prologue DNS is a big topic, and you may be asking yourself why. Well, as we noted in a recent show ( https://ftwr.libsyn.com/dtsr-episode-504-dns-turns-40 ) DNS is officially middle-aged. And with that middle-age comes some more problems. These issues have caused a situation where it's increasingly evident that DNS needs to evolve, mature, or simply revise (2.0?) itself ... but into what? An...

Prologue Let's start with NDR - Network Detection and Response - because it's not new, but the discussions lately have been very interesting. Is it still relevant? Does it have a place in today's hybrid and cloud world? Well, in this conversation with Raja Mukerji, co-founder of ExtraHop, Rafal tackles these questions and gets some interesting answers. For those of you who have foll...

Prologue As some of you know, I've been either in the AppSec space, or adjacent, since the fairly early days. I built a program at GE a million years ago, and worked selling dynamic web app testing software for many years. If you've been in the space, you can feel a little bit hopeless with all the different options, tools, and advice only to look at the stale OWASP Top 10 and wonder ......

Prologue RSA Conference 2022 has come and gone. Rafal was there for all the circus and madness, and sits down with James to discuss what was seen and heard. Also, you'll get some clips in here from some of the interviews from the show as Rafal caught up with some interesting vendors, old friends, and even some poetry. Guests Tyler Moffitt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-moffitt-29...

Prologue In this RSA conference-themed episode, I bring on Jonathan Barnett from OpenText Security Solutions to discuss DNS turning 40 years old. Yeah, it was originally invented in 1983 y'all. As DNS turns 40, some of the lingering problems are getting worse, some of the new solutions open up other problems, and we're all about solutions here so we tackle some of the things Jonathan is...

Prologue This is a bonus episode for the Episode 500 live-stream we did. I brought together  Crowdstrike, OpenText,  and  Netskope technologists to talk about the technology they've worked with over the last 10 years, where it stands today, and what the future outlook looks like. It's a fascinating conversation from some of the most common vendors out there in security - and you're...

Prologue This week, we talk about the cloud in a different way than we have previously. We discuss "blast radius" with regard to vast numbers of roles and permissions inside of a public cloud infrastructure. The numbers are staggering and you'll likely find yourself asking the obvious question -- "How does anyone manage all of this, with any hope of getting it right?" The...

Prologue CMMC may be something you know nothing of, but if you're a government contractor, or work with government contractors of the DIB - you're probaby alll too familiar. For some, it's hell. For the rest, it's mostly insane. Jacob joins Rafal & James to educate us, and give us the reality of this set of standards. Guest Jacob Horne LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/...

Prologue This week, on the first post-500 episode, we welcome Netskope's Ray Canzanese to talk about the Cloud & Threat Report they just published ( https://www.netskope.com/netskope-threat-labs/cloud-threat-report ) which has some interesting bits in it. Ray discusses the details and some of the things that you won't find in the text of the report. Good conversation as Rafal & J...

Prologue - Part 2 of 2 First - thank you to everyone who listens to this show, shares it, and has left us a review. You all are the reason these past 500 episodes got published, and why this show will keep going into the forseeable future! Link to video:  https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6917850703235321856/ This episode features some of my favorite guests from the last 500 epis...

Prologue - Part 1 of 2 First - thank you to everyone who listens to this show, shares it, and has left us a review. You all are the reason these past 500 episodes got published, and why this show will keep going into the forseeable future! Link to video:  https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6917850703235321856/ This episode features some of my favorite guests from the last 500 epis...

Prologue Friends and colleagues - I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. It almost brings me to tears that over the last 11 years you've been sharing, downloading, and talking about this little thing I started back in 2011. Incredible doesn't even begin to describe the ride so far. And to top it off, we've hit almost 32,000 downloads this month - the most we've  ever...

Prologue Super pumped this week to have James Azar on the show. James hosts a collection of podcasts including one I try to catch as often as possible - https://www.linkedin.com/company/cyberhubpodcast/ . We cover a lot of ground, but you'll walk away with James' words ringing in your head, I can almost promise you that. Guest James Azar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-j-azar...

Prologue This week, as we approach episode 500 and the extravaganza that it will be, James and I welcome my personal friend and all-around wonderful marketing dude, Russell Wurth. We joke about what's wrong with cyber-security, and why it's mostly marketing's fault. Join us, prep your buzzword bingo card, and have a drink in hand (unless you're driving, then please don't)....

Prologue Have you noticed that the relationship between buyer and seller, or more precisely, between CISO and seller is... eh ... tenuous lately? OK, maybe it's a lot worse than that in some cases. Why is that? How did we get here? And how do we fix a relationship that is quite clearly necessary, but just so broken? Yaron Levi, long-time industry veteran joins Rafal to discuss the challenges...

Prologue This week, as Vladimir Putin's Russia continues to commit war crimes and genocide against the people of Ukraine, DtSR gathered a panel of experts to discuss and dissect the threat of a Russian-based cyber offensive against the west. Our panelists helped separate fact from fiction, and gave us some take-aways that we can use to rationally and realistically protect ourselves from this...

Prologue Special thanks on this episode to OpenText for bringing Mike to us on this show. What a fantastic conversation about the state of forensics and a little bit of reminiscing too! This episode we talk forensics, and the art and science, plus how to build that back-fill of talent this entire industry is short on. Michael has decades of knowledge and experience, and it's a joy of a conver...

Prologue A big Texas welcome back to the podcast to our friend Shawn Tuma, our legal-eagle in residence. This week Shawn talks to us about the cases he's involved in, and the types of trends he's seeing in his client base when being their breach coach, and fire-fighter guide. With all these breaches, and all this money and productivity lost - is anyone paying attention? Is anyone learnin...