Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los

Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)

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This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show. On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_Podcast On YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHq On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-securit...

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Oct 20, 2026

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Episodes

DtSR Episode 627 - Talent Gap Lies and Truths 12.11.2024

TL;DR: On this spicy episode where returning guest Erik Bloch joins us, we host Lee Kushner to talk about the talent gap. Is there a talent gap? Who's to blame for the mess we're in right now? And of course, what to do next? For anyone who's job hunting, trying to understand the cyber job market, or trying to hire... this episode and conversation is for you. Sorry about the intermit...

DtSR Episode 626 - Patrick Dennis Investing in CyberSecurity is Hard 05.11.2024

TL;DR:  Today, the podcast takes a meeting in the finance department with Patrick Dennis - current CEO of Avaya and friend of the podcast. Patrick has extensive experience in investments in both tech and beyond, and he's here to dispense some wisdom, caution, and insights.  --> This podcast is packed with information that you can't afford to miss. YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/li...

DtSR Episode 625 - Cyber Ghost Stories to Tell in the Dark 29.10.2024

TL;DR: On this week's episode, Jim, James, and I sit down to a Halloween "scary story" episode. You know the feeling... that sinking feeling of dread when you can't quite put your finger on what's wrong but something is definitely wrong. Something scary, and nefarious is happening... and usually it's coming from  inside the house! YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/li...

DtSR Episode 624 - Kevin Clark One Month A Year That Security Matters 22.10.2024

TL;DR:  This week on the pod, Kevin Clark joins James and I to talk about his career, how his walked his journey to a successful security leader (spoiler alert, it's another roundabout path), and what we generally think of "security awareness month". Great conversation and I think you'll agree, we need Kevin back again soon. YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/0KiUwC0RzRQ H...

DtSR Episode 623 - SOC Metrics Suck 15.10.2024

TL;DR: Erik Bloch and  Anton Chuvakin join James, Jim, and myself to talk about why security metrics in the SOC ....suck. It's an interesting predicament, and one I'm sure Anton has been ranting about since he first got his 486/DX2 66. Or maybe not. It's an interesting topic because if we're measuring crap, that means something. Or does it even matter? Link to Erik's epic...

DtSR Episode 622 - Doug Burks Building the Security Onion 08.10.2024

TL;DR: This week's episode is a special one. I've been a fan of Security Onion for a long, long time and this week Jim Tiller and I welcome Doug Burks its creator to the show. Doug gives us his story of how he started the iconic security platform and where it's going next. Don't miss this sit-down that's been far overdue. Congrats to Doug and his team on the longevity and...

DtSR Episode 621 - Cyber Security Has a Data Problem Part 2 01.10.2024

TL;DR:  This is part 2 of the two-part episode with Jason Clark and Nathan Smolenski on data protection. In this episode we tackle the options and solutions to the problem we face - and why (just this one time) AI may be the only way forward. Interesting possibilities, and some real solutions. Don't miss our thee for episode 2 - "Hawaiian shirt day", on the video stream. Jim Tiller...

DtSR Episode 620 - Cyber Security Has a Data Problem Part 1 24.09.2024

TL;DR: This week Jason Clark and Nathan Smolenski join Jim Tiller and I on part 1 of a 2-part series on data security. It's a topic whose time has come, and we're going to start in part 1 with fully analyzing the problem, how we got here, and just how ugly the beast is. YouTube vide: https://youtube.com/live/Qps-4NSEI-4 Have something to say? Let's hear it. Support the show >>&...

DtSR Episode 619 - Aaron Bray The Complete Novice Guide to SBOM 17.09.2024

TL;DR:  This week's episode features Aaron Bray , CEO of Phylum . We use this episode as a complete primer on SBOM (Software Bill of Materials). We cover the typical "lot of ground" but try to answer the question of what SBOMs are, how they're useful, and what you as practitioners can do now that you have them. YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/KHiDJt8SnZ0 Have something...

DtSR Episode 618 - Jeff Collins Microservices Killed the Vulnerability Scan 10.09.2024

TL;DR:  This week's episode sees the return of Mr Jeff Collins (of WanAware fame) as we talk over the long-prophesied death of vulnerability scanning. Maybe. What does the cloud have to do with the demise of vulnerability scanning? Listen and find out... I think you may find this relevant. This time, YouTube Video, is required viewing...trust me on this. YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/liv...

DtSR Episode 617 - Defending Forgotten but Business Critical Systems (SAP) Part 2 03.09.2024

TL;DR:  This week, part 2 of the SAP ("Critical Enterprise Apps") discussion where Tom Venables & Jay Thoden van Velzen get a little more in-depth on what it takes to secure SAP and ensure that there's more than just a firewall between imminent disaster and your business. Jim TIller guest-hosts this in-depth episode, and we invite you to grab a notepad, and take some notes! Part...

DtSR Episode 616 - A Wh1t3 Rabbit at Black Hat 2024 27.08.2024

TL;DR: This episode is a "walk-around" episode, where I walked around Black Hat 2024 and ran into some friends to talk about what we're seeing, anything that caught their attention, and some other interesting insights in short-form recordings. I hope you enjoy listening to Lamont Orange , Aaron Bray , Alex Humphrey , and Rick Holland as much as I enjoyed the conversations. No video...

DtSR Episode 615 - Doug Cavit Defending a Whole County 20.08.2024

TL;DR: Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be responsible for security for an entire  county ? That job encompasses a massive amount of responsibility - but I'll let Doug Cavit , the CISO of Snohomish County, Washington tell us about it. What a resume, and what an incredible job Doug has. YouTube Video: https://youtube.com/live/selNfh5gQAU Have something to say? Let's hear it....

DtSR Episode 614 - James Robinson Don't Worry SaaS is Probably Secure 13.08.2024

TL;DR:  This episode was one of our awesome LinkedIn Live episodes - if you missed it, join us on LinkedIn and never miss another! On this one, James Robinson (CISO at Netskope) talks with Rafal and James with guest-host Jim TIller about the possibilities we have with SaaS, data protection, and the whole mess we've made over the last 20+ years of "data everywhere". Big thanks to Net...

DtSR Episode 613 - Tim Miller A Frank Conversation on Software Manifests 06.08.2024

TL;DR: Today's episode is all about how we can build better software and systems - from a supply chain perspective. Tim Miller joins us, and it starts as a general conversation but we quickly dive into the world of software development. There's a lot to talk about here, starting with this XKCD that explains it perfectly: https://xkcd.com/2347/ YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/XOMl...

DtSR Episode 612 - Defending Forgotten but Business Critical Systems 30.07.2024

TL;DR: I bet you don't generally think about the software that actually  runs the business when you're thinking security. In this episode, we tackle the security of SAP systems - the most popular business software on the planet - from some experts who tell us what we're missing. There's a lot to unpack here, and I bet you're not thinking about much of this, if any... I kno...

DtSR Episode 611 - Bob Bragdon Writing the CISO Story 23.07.2024

TL;DR: This week's episode features someone you've probably known for a while, without actually knowing him. Bob Brandon talks about his journey through publishing the wildly successful CSO Magazine (now an online publication) and being close the the CISO world for a long time. He has a great story to tell, so listen in, and enjoy. YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/WafXp6xPpBY Have...

DtSR Episode 610 - Rob Allen Zero Trust Without Breaking Stuff 16.07.2024

TL;DR: This week's guest is here to talk about Zero Trust... in a practical way. We're talking with Rob Allen of ThreatLocker about zero trust from a way you may have not thought about before. It's an interesting conversation and a piece of a much larger puzzle ... but from a practical standpoint, this may be the best actual place to start. Do you agree? YouTube Video: https://youtu...

DtSR Episode 609 - Jonathan Rau Ruins SIEM 09.07.2024

TL;DR: This week on the pod, Jonathan Rau joins to talk about SIEM. The thing we all lover to hate on, that thing that's been declared dead, and yet it's on its umpteenth incarnation. What does the future hold? Why is it still an investment organizations make? What makes it a good versus bad use-case? Tune in, find out. YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/FtCjMo_gDDc Have something t...

DtSR Episode 608 - Karim Hijazi Ransomware Gets Nastier Still 02.07.2024

TL;DR: Friend of the pod, Karim Hijazi of Vigilocity , joins Rafal this week to talk about the state of ransomware, its "families", proliferation and motivations. It's a dark picture that's getting darker as it all evolves. Karim also provides some data-driven insights you can even investigate for yourself, check this show out on the video stream for more complete insights. You...

DtSR Episode 607 - Outsourcing Your Security Part 2 25.06.2024

TL;DR: This week is part 2 of the 2-part series on "Outsourcing your security" with Paul Farley . Paul's expertise in this space means you should be taking notes! On this second part, we dive into how you can pick an effective model for your use-case (we talk through a few of the available models out there), how to effectively implement an MSSP, and then how to measure success. Gues...

DtSR Episode 606 - An Unsurprisingly Awful GAO Report 18.06.2024

TL;DR:  James and I spent a few minutes dissecting the high-level of a GAO report (Government Accountability Office) ...perhaps ironically named... that is awful in so, so many ways it's ridiculous. Listen in, comment with your thoughts. YouTube Video: (TBD) Have something to say? Let's hear it. Support the show >>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show! -=-...

DtSR Episode 605 - Outsourcing Your Security Part 1 11.06.2024

TL;DR:    This week Paul Farley , Deputy CISO of NCR Voyix joins myself, James, and Jim TIller to discuss outsourcing security in a modern company. We talk through a bit of history, some requirements for a good MSP, and the good and bad of the last couple of decades of MSPs. YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/QzQFXyVcDSo Have something to say? Let's hear it. Support the show >>>...

DtSR Episode 604 - Justin Foster Deeper Dive on Access Control Part 2 04.06.2024

TL;DR: Justin Foster is back (and James is out) with guest co-host Jim Tiller as we talk through network-based access control from the "old days" through today's modern approaches. What worked, what didn't, what we tried, and how far we've come. Give it a listen! Also ... if there's any episode you watch the video of - it has to be this show for that beginning piece.....

DtSR Episode 603 - Justin Foster Access Control Now More Than Ever 28.05.2024

TL;DR: This week's episode is part 1 of ... (I'm not sure) in a series of conversations about that old, boring, yet remarkably relevant topic of "Access Control". We pull in Justin Foster and guest co-host Jim Tiller to talk through the topic and set up a few follow-up episodes. Maybe more than a few, who knows? YouTube video: https://youtube.com/live/m-4lJHQDaZQ Have something...

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