Dave and Jordan

Don't Let's Start: A Podcast About They Might Be Giants

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Every once in a while a band comes along that changes the course of human history. Your hosts and dear friends Jordan Cooper and Dave Fox take you on an in-depth musical journey over the career, albums, and songs of the band They Might Be Giants, and maybe have some hearty, completely authentic laughs along the way.

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Jun 19, 2026

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Episodes

28: Interview with Brian Doherty! Pt. 2 22.02.2020

We're back with part 2 of our interview with TMBG drummer Brian Doherty ! Unnoticed by few, in this episode Doherty discusses his work on They Might Be Giants' Factory Showroom , Severe Tire Damage , John Linnell's State Songs , playing with Mono Puff , and tons of TMBG touring stories, including the experience of opening up for Hootie and the Blowfish! Brian also talks about playing with alt rock...

27: Interview with Brian Doherty! Pt. 1 15.02.2020

Meet Brian Doherty! Jersey City's famous drummer! Part 1 of an in-depth interview with Brian Doherty! Brian played drums for They Might Be Giants from 1993 to 1996, performed on the albums John Henry, Factory Showroom, as well as various EPs, and more! In part 1, we discuss the first bands Brian played with, meeting and rehearsing and touring with John and John, recording John Henry, making th...

26: FLOOD Wrap-Down: Then That Phone Rang Off The Hook 10.02.2020

Flood fans, you're in for a treat, a fresh-baked, yummy one! Dave and Jordan, the hosts, take you, the listeners, through the countless-yet-countable (21) demos and Dial-A-Song recordings that made up almost all of the songs on Flood! We think it's worth the money and hurt as we gasp in shock at the alternate lyrics of the Birdhouse In Your Soul demo ! We can't say why we enjoy the phone version o...

25: FLOOD - Part 6: The Things We Cherish Are Small Indeed 04.02.2020

This is a recording! We may not be able to drive out the way we drove in, so we have to leave our exploration of Flood through these b-sides and remixes left scattered in the middle of the road! Not that there's anything middle of the road (whew) about James K. Polk , the original Flood-reject version that showed up on the Istanbul (Not Constantinople) EP and was just a small glimmer in They Might...

24: FLOOD - Part 5: River Becomes An Ocean 25.01.2020

Pod Cast, where are you? Right here! Behind you! The ship has run out of ocean, as Dave and Jordan, the Kings of Liars, conclude their discussion/investigation/true crime mini-docu-series about all of the songs on They Might Be Giants ' popular Flood album! First, we play a quickly aborted round of Derby Day in celebration of Hot Cha , then discuss the complicated backstory behind the song! It's t...

23: FLOOD - Part 4: Wrong Ideas That Appeal To You 09.01.2020

All hail, the Flood Boat! Jordan and Dave hit some deep and treacherous waters as they hit a Linnell-valanche with some of the trickiest and head-injuring songs on Flood ! If I were a podcaster I'd stammer on my podcast all about We Want A Rock ! We're not done with you yet! Would you mind if there's some horrible business left for us to attend to as we discuss the slightly irritating situations i...

22: FLOOD - Part 3: Nobody Knows, Particle Man 16.11.2019

It's the loveliest podcast that you've ever attended! When we discuss Flood do we get wet? We've got a Universe Man-sized episode for you where we cover an entire THREE songs from They Might Be Giants ' THIRD album Flood! Content warning: you may not be able to stand there listening to us talking about Your Racist Friend ! Then we're doing the things a podcaster can as we take on Particle Man , di...

21: FLOOD - Part 2: Dancing On The Casket 09.10.2019

Our handmade boat ride through Flood continues! In this episode, we continue to celebrate and interrogate They Might Be Giants' big-time third album! We confidentially ponder and rattle on about Lucky Ball & Chain , then you can't go back to before TMBG released this next song! We devote much of the episode to an unbelievably in-depth discussion about Istanbul (Not Constantinople) , tracking t...

20: FLOOD - Part 1: Bluebird of Friendliness 02.10.2019

Live, from the Electric Well! Actually-your-friends, Dave and Jordan, are back, and rocketing forward at lightning speed past the '80s (for now) and towards They Might Be Giants ' brand new record for 1990, Flood ! We discuss all things Flood, except for 17 of the 19 songs, which are coming up in the next episodes! We discuss the origins of the title and album art, TMBG's signing (and singing) wit...

19: GRAB BAG #1: TMB Songs 21.08.2019

Oh boy, oh boy! During our interview with Bill Krauss , Bill showed us an old handwritten list of songs from the mid 80s with the title "TMB Songs." In this episode, we review this list and pick out a handful of rare and forgotten songs to discuss! We also ponder some exclusive never before seen song titles that fans have never known about! This episode also includes unheard moments from our inter...

18: Interview with Bill Krauss! 18.07.2019

Reel 'er in, we've got a BIG ONE! Mr. Bill Krauss , producer of THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS, LINCOLN , and other iconic 80s TMBG material joined us for a sit-down! We talked to Bill about his origins in music, getting involved with They Might Be Giants, recording the early demos and albums, being TMBG's live sound-man, stories about being on the road with the band, and tons more! Absolutely Bill's Cool!...

17: THEN: THE EARLIER YEARS: Disc 2: Hip Hip Horrific Is Our Thing 24.06.2019

There's something coming. A new podcast episode on the horizon. It's coming very slowly. BUT NOW IT'S HERE! Our new episode is in the can, the big trash can! Jordan and Dave weep weep weep with joy and terror as they guide you through the bonus tracks on Then: The Earlier Years , disc 2! They Might Be Giants have a lot of goodies and strange-lings in store! Jordan tries to find the inspiration for...

16: THEN: THE EARLIER YEARS DISC 1: Don't Remind Me Of Yesterday 03.06.2019

Here's something novel for this podcast: LET'S ALL CELEBRATE TMBG! This episode discusses the were-we-ever-so-young 80's compilation from 1997, Then: The Earlier Years , notably the freaky and mysterious bonus tracks on disc 1! Dave and Jordan discuss the critics of Critic Intro ! They say everything about Now That I Have Everything ! They tap out rhythms with a smile on their face to Mainstream U...

15: Interview with Julie Kantner from The Turtlenecks! 03.05.2019

We've got a lot of insight into a real special slice of TMBG esoterica today, as we interview Julie Kantner , incredible songwriter and past member of John Flansburgh 's college dorm band, The Turtlenecks ! Jordan and Dave talk to Julie about songwriting, playing live, and we devote a lot of wide-eyed attention to the six-song Turtlenecks EP from 1981, put up by Julie on her Bandcamp page! We lear...

14: MISCELLANEOUS T Wrap-Down: I'll Find Your Answering Machine 24.04.2019

Our options for Miscellaneous T tracks to discuss get whittled away as Dave and Jordan confront the very few ***exclusive*** Dial-A-Songs and demos for Miscellaneous T! We dip back into our ongoing Dial-A-Song historical discussion! We also chill the f out a bit and answer some e-mails, discuss a wide variety of questionably compelling TMBG topics, talk about our favorite non-TMBG b-sides in our a...

13: MISCELLANEOUS T - Part 3: Flowers Die And So Will I 11.04.2019

Dave and Jordan finish their stride through the b-sides compiled on Miscellaneous T ! For Science is real, and they talk about the cocky character clamoring for the Venus vixen! Then we discuss lucky track number 13 and dig into more Dial-A-Song history, plus make extremely educated guesses about the inner lives of Gloria and The Guy! And from the phone machine to the phone inside her ribcage, we...

12: MISCELLANEOUS T - Part 2: The Sweetest Spot 29.03.2019

Dave and Jordan soak up Miscellaneous T some more! They get drenched by rising flood waters in I'll Sink Manhattan ! The sound upon the roof isn't only water, it's Dave and Jordan trying to wade through It's Not My Birthday ! Then they cry a river of tiny tears as they grasp at the meaning of the three-word Hello Radio ! Then...THIS JUST IN: Mr. Klaw 's secret identity REVEALED, and YOU WILL NOT B...

11: MISCELLANEOUS T - Part 1: The Tiny Lights Shines Twice As Bright 22.03.2019

Mister Cooper and Mister Fox talk about the first five tracks of Miscellaneous T , the jaw-dropping and unpredictable They Might Be Giants B-side compilation! We get BESIDE ourselves discussing the very nature of the B-side! D & J deal with Hey Mr. DJ I Thought You Said We Had A Deal ! Then Pal Jordan tells Pal Dave about TMBG's obsession with Pal Joey and why they covered Lady Is A Tramp ! Th...

10: Interview with Joshua Fried! Pt. 2 07.03.2019

Part 2 of our scintillating discussion with Joshua Fried ! In this episode we talk about all of the songs on 1993's Hello the Band EP , a CD of totally great songs that Fried created with John Flansburgh for the Hello CD of the Month Club! We talk about the subliminal secret of Sodium Mask , who brought the funk on Since You Joined The Corporation , the wisdom of Tom Vu for Town To Town , the wond...

09: Interview with Joshua Fried! Pt. 1 28.02.2019

We interviewed somebody! In preparation for our big Miscellaneous T episode, we sat down across a table from Joshua Fried , best known to They Might Be Giants fans as the man behind The World's Address (Joshua Fried Remix !) Fried tells us about his early years in music, his work with performance art troupe Watchface that him and John Flansburgh used to collaborate with, and then a special detaile...

08: LINCOLN Wrap-Down: The Kind That Never Fades Away 08.02.2019

Do let's stop talking about Lincoln ...but only after we wrap it all up in this special episode where Dave & Jordan dig into some of the curious Dial-A-Songs and demos that would eventually become Lincoln! This episode begins what will be a continuing multi-part discussion of TMBG's Dial-A-Song service, plus we share some fun recommendations in our Unrelated Thing segment, and answer a huge he...

07: LINCOLN - Part 3: Love Is Sad 28.01.2019

Your panacea's in a podcast app! We built a little podcast out of some crazy garbage! I've got a match; your embrace and my podcast! Tracks 10-18 of the 1988 album Lincoln by the band They Might Be Giants get examined by the friends Dave & Jordan, and you'll be shocked & appalled at how much there is to talk about! Our hosts chit their chats about so many topics stemming from these songs,...

06: LINCOLN - Part 2: Our Only Home Is Bone 17.01.2019

We have an obligation...to release part 2 of our discussion about Lincoln! In this episode, Dave & Jordan ( tm ) finally move past Ana Ng and extract curious wonder and delicious meaning from songs such as Purple Toupee , Piece of Dirt , Pencil Rain , and plenty more! Other topics include Linnell's early music career,  Dave's Coffee Wisdom ( tm ), and the ethics of a Roy Orbison hologram tour,...

05: LINCOLN - Part 1: The Edge of Hearing 09.01.2019

Four score and seven years ago, Dave and Jordan released the previous podcast episode. Now we're back! We discuss They Might Be Giants ' unimpeachable second album, Lincoln , and we end up devoting an entire hour to the intricacies of the lead single and might-be-masterpiece, Ana Ng . Jordan regales Dave with 1964 World's Fair factoids and triviods, Dave goes to a pharmacist to try to get those tr...

04: Holidayland & Other Christmas Tidings 25.12.2018

Merry Flansmas! Happy Hanuk-WHAAA?? Dave and Jordan dig into the uniquely strange THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS IN...HOLIDAYLAND EP , then take a very fantastic and harrowing voyage to the Island of Misfit Christmas Songs banished from Holidayland! They even discuss the Hello Family Santa Special , which is really overkill, if you ask me. Will Dave learn the true meaning of Christmas? Will Jordan learn the...

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