Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams

Discourse in Magic

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Jonah Babins from Discourse in Magic tackles magic’s hardest issues, theories, philosophies, discussion, and more to help you explore. He jumps into all sorts of magic, and resources, and most importantly actionable tips to help better the art and become a killer performer!

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Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams

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discourseinmagic.com

Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

Defining Magic for Yourself with Erik Tait 15.10.2020

Jonah is joined by Erik Tait to discuss his brand of magic, producing magic for Penguin, and venturing into the world of live stream events. Erik Tait is a top graduate of Toronto’s own Humber College Comedy Writing and Performance Program , has appeared on Penn & Teller: Fool Us , and was the 2018 International Brotherhood of Magicians Gold Cups Close Up Competition Champion Juggling At The C...

Magical Appetizer #18: Facebook Ads 08.10.2020

This week Jonah breaks down all the basics you need to know about running ads on Facebook. These are the first things Jonah works with when consulting with other magicians to help them set up their Facebook ads.  Through the Toronto Magic Company, Jonah has sold out shows for years using Facebook ads and recently successfully sold two-hundred tickets to UnConventional.fun using Facebook ads. In th...

UnConventional.fun’s Virtual Show Panel 01.10.2020

Recorded live during UnConventional.fun , Jonah hosts a virtual panel on hosting virtual shows. Joining the panel is David Parr , Ben Seidman , Haim Goldenberg , and Adrian Lacroix . Together they discuss the good side and the bad side of hosting virtual shows, how to develop your virtual show business, and tips and tricks they’ve learned along the way as the entire magic performing world has had...

Better Business with Magic Podcast 24.09.2020

Jonah was invited to the Better Business with Magic podcast , to join host Nolan Webster to discuss the intersections of math and magic and how they can work for anyone who wants to improve their business skills. Math and Magic Math helps you in many ways and for Jonah it was all about helping with problem solving. Math has a creative nature and requires ingenuity and problem solving to come to a...

Magical Appetizer #17: Getting Into The Virtual Biz 17.09.2020

This week Jonah talks about how to break into the virtual magic business. The virtual magic business is an important new wave with lots of money in it. If you’ve been listening since the pandemic hit you’ve heard Jonah get slowly more and more excited about virtual magic. In this short episode Jonah will tell you everything you need to know to launch your virtual magic business.   The Catch 22 Par...

UnConventional.fun 10.09.2020

UnConventional. Fun Jonah is joined by business partner and co-founder of the Toronto Magic Company , Ben Train, to discuss the details surrounding their upcoming virtual magic convention, UnConventional.fun! They also share stories about their past experiences with magic conventions and how vital it has been to both of their own personal journeys as magicians. What is UnConventional. Fun? Jonah a...

Preconceived Podcast 03.09.2020

Jonah was invited to the Preconceived Podcast to talk about magic and understanding the craft and business of magic. This episode is a selection of that conversation that Jonah had with Preconceived host Zale Mednick. Check out the Preconceived Podcast for the complete interview . It’s a fun conversation with a magic layperson and a rare chance to hear Jonah talk about the introductory philosophie...

Maximum Entertainment 2.0 with Ken Weber 27.08.2020

Jonah is joined by Ken Weber to discuss his revised and expanded Maximum Entertainment 2.0 . Ken Weber is a renowned mentalist and hypnotist who was named “one of the most frequently requested” performers on the college circuit by Newsweek magazine and was awarded the Dunninger Award for Excellence in the Performance of Mentalism by the Psychic Entertainers Association. Now, having almost complete...

Magical Appetizer #16: How To Sell a Virtual Show 20.08.2020

This week Jonah talks about one of his favourite obsessions, virtual magic shows. How do you sell a virtual magic show? What are the factors that are really enticing for someone looking to book a virtual magic show? And what are some of the factors working against you? Key Strategies Jonah will go over his key strategies and break down the specific things he does when booking a virtual magic show...

Translating Magic with Rafael Benatar 13.08.2020

Jonah is joined by Rafael Benatar to discuss his translations of magic masters into other languages, the secrets to memorization, and cultural differences in magic performances.

Acting, Magic, and the Importance of Performance with Steve Valentine 06.08.2020

Jonah is joined by Steve Valentine this week to discuss acting while being a magician – and the dangers of not being taken seriously, uncovering the lost history of magic, and the importance of a presentation that transcends the trick being performed. Steve was introduced to magic thanks to the prescient powers of the gift of a magic kit from his mom, who also predicted the future careers of...

Virtual Restaurant Magic with Graeme Reed 30.07.2020

This week, Jonah joins Graeme “Graemazing” Reed on an episode of his podcast, Magicians Talking Magic . The two discuss pivoting to performing virtually, and how to build relationships during these uncertain times. Graeme is an Ontario based magician with a background in media and broadcasting. With the shifting atmosphere, it is now essential for people to shift their personal and business lives...

Improvisation without Improvisation with Dani DaOrtiz 23.07.2020

Thank you to Javier Naterra for providing translation assistance this episode. Jonah is joined by Dani DaOrtiz this week to discuss the power of muscle memory, the right way to utilize chaos, and communicating through magic. Dani is a Spanish magician known for his chaotic magic style, psychological card work, and is 1/3 of the Fat Brothers. Dani can’t recall how he got into magic, save for...

Becoming a Content Creator with Alex Boyer 16.07.2020

To get us back into the swings of things, Alex Boyer joins Jonah to discuss visual magic, following your interests and becoming a successful content creator. Alex Boyer is an Ottawa based magician with 26.6k subscribers and 635k+ views on YouTube. Create, Create, Create The only way you’ll start to post is when you start to post.  When he was first starting out, Alex aimed to post multiple v...

Magician Appetizer #15: Four Types of Luck 09.07.2020

Feeling lucky? This week Jonah sits down to talk about the four types of luck, and how you can leverage luck to work in your favour. We’ll be back to the regular interview episodes in two weeks! The Discourse in Magic Team has been working on some exciting projects during this break that we can’t wait to share with you. If you would like to explore the concept of luck and the resources...

Magician Appetizer #14: Improving Virtual Production Value 02.07.2020

Just started performing virtual shows? Have a few under your belt? Looking to improve your setup? This week, Jonah sits down to give you some simple tips on how to improve your virtual and physical performing setup. Looking to learn more about what Jonah touched on this episode? Sign up for Jonah’s free webinar on July 8th, 2020 at 8pm EST where he’ll lead you through using ECamm Live....

Magician Appetizer #13: Testing Virtual Material 25.06.2020

This week, Jonah sits down to give you a tip on how to practice your material for virtual audiences. With only an email and some simple to use software, you’ll have a system in place that will help you schedule time to test your material in no time. Of course, if you have any questions, you can always reach out to Jonah through email. If you’re looking for the software Jonah recommende...

Exploring Creativity with Chris Pilsworth 18.06.2020

Jonah is joined this week by Chris Pilsworth to talk about collaboration, appreciating your audience, and creative processes. Chris is a magician based out of Ottawa, Ontario, and is known for his creative ability and engaging performance style. At 11 years old, Chris’ interest in magic was sparked by magic books his brother brought home from the library. Fascinated, he began to learn simple...

A Message From the Team: Black Voices Matter 11.06.2020

Discourse in Magic is pausing this week to give way for the voices that need to be heard. Jonah would like to help amplify these voices by handing over the mic to black magicians who have a message for magicians. We want to help educate. To help grow. To help make magic a more inclusive environment. If you are a black magician and would like the Discourse in Magic audience to hear what you have to...

The Versatility of Magic Apps with Greg Rostami 04.06.2020

This week Greg Rostami joins Jonah to talk about creating, performing, and utilizing app magic.  Greg is a prominent app magic creator, known for creating apps like ReaList and Inject. A Svengali Deck was Greg’s intro to magic. He was fascinated by the concept and was pulled into magic because of the clever nature of the art. Closeup magic became the style he loved and would perform it wherever he...

Knowing Your Show with Tim Hannig 28.05.2020

Tim Hannig sits down with Jonah this week to talk about performing for kids, upping your production value, and the power of knowing every step of your show. Tim is a magician, author, and motivational speaker who tours schools in the States with his children and family shows. One of Tim’s early childhood magic memories is of the time his father took him to see Blackstone. Both amazed and inspired,...

Magician Appetizer #12: The Best Investment During a Recession 21.05.2020

While it might be a short one this week, Jonah has packed this episode full of advice on how to continue growing your business during these times. If you’ve been stuck on what to do for your business, Jonah breaks down what you should be doing right now to succeed later. He explains how you know what everyone is thinking and how you can start building connections based on this knowledge.

Unique Creativity with Francis Menotti 14.05.2020

Jonah is joined by Francis Menotti this week to discuss virtual performances, working as a duo, and methods to improve your creativity. Francis is a performer, consultant, and half of the magic duo: Couple of Magicians.   When he received a magic kit for his fifth Christmas, Francis was quick to embrace the deviousness of magic as a way of making the impossible possible. His interest continued thr...

Be Human with Derren Brown 07.05.2020

Derren Brown joins Jonah this week to discuss developing ideas, finding your own voice, and what magic means in our current society. Between his award-winning stage shows, TV specials, and books, you’re probably familiar with the UK based mentalist.  Hypnotism was Derren’s path into magic. During his time studying German and law in university, he had the chance to see hypnotist Martin Taylor perfo...

Discovering, Scripting & Rehearsing Material with Nathan Coe Marsh 30.04.2020

Jonah is joined by Nathan Coe Marsh this week to talk about finding inspiration, guiding your audience, and balancing your approach to business. Nathan is a magician from Orlando who splits his time between magic venues and the corporate performing world. After seeing his father’s friend perform Kennedy’s floating bill, Nathan was hooked. He laid awake at night, trying to figure out ho...

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