Ernest Prabhakar, Robby Butler

Discipling By Jesus

Religion EN ↓ 143 episodes

The only real answer is Jesus. The only real problem is Sin. The only real work is the Cross. In the end, we only have Him. Discipling by Jesus (DBJ) is a group "co-devotional" practice for encountering the crucified Christ. By working through His Word & Spirit, Body & Blood we explore greater depths of the Father’s love as we surrender to the Holy Spirit.

Author

Ernest Prabhakar, Robby Butler

Category

Religion

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Latest episode

Oct 26, 2025

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Episodes

Letting Go, with David Johnson 14.01.2021

To start with, David and Ernie both agree that The Great Reset is: Too dominated by Ernie Lacks a clear sense of purpose Lacks consistency of format Lacks continuity of topics The disagreement started when Ernie explained that this Friday (15 Jan 2021) is THE Finale of The Great Reset, and what came after would be Something Different .  While Ernie saw this as an opportunity to re-found The Great...

Shooting the Great Reset, with Ted Hahs 10.01.2021

Ted and Ernie record what may be their last episode of The Great Reset podcast, as they plan for the finale on January 15th.   When Ted asks Ernie about working together afterwards on Something Different, Ernie expresses concern over what he perceived as Ted's dismissiveness of his feelings.  This was aggravated (if not caused) by Ted not responding to a heartfelt email Ernie has shared over Chris...

I'm Sorry for Yelling "I'm Sorry", with David Johnson 07.01.2021

David and Ernie appear to agree with the statement that "the problem is sin, and the cure is Jesus" -- but seem unable to agree about what those words mean, or even whether or not they agree. David affirms how Ernie is fantastic at handling negative feedback, but confused why he appears incapable of incorporating constructive suggestions. Ernie admires David's commitment and forthrightness, but wo...

Joining Jesus, with Robby Butler 06.01.2021

Robby and Ernie discuss: Possible limits to simply hearing and obeying Jesus Whether DBS emphasizes Law (obedience) at the expense of Grace (relationship) Whether there is a "performative" act that constitutes being a Christian (e.g., repentance, communion) The difference between "joining with Jesus in his work" (as servants, focused on productivity) versus "joining with Jesus through His work" (a...

Sorry, I Had an Epiphany (with David Johnson) 03.01.2021

To escape from a confused chat thread, David rephrased three concerns he had about Ernie's proposed topic for this coming Tuesday (1/5/2021) on The Great Reset: It does not provide continuity, or address open problems Ernie seems to be placing all the responsibility on David, rather than sharing it The goal should be to model (live out) discipleship, and Ernie's proposal doesn't seem to accomplish...

Jesus Lovers, with Robby Butler 01.01.2021

Robby contacted Ernie to ensure he hadn't hurt his feelings during Tuesday's The Great Reset . He had agreed with Janet that he too would leave the group if it was true that Ernie was espousing non-scriptural foundations, but didn't think that was the case. Ernie admitted that he had partly called out Robby's statement for dramatic effect; the emotional pain was minimal (and addressed).  However,...

Beyond Spiritual Fathering, with Steve McGriff 31.12.2020

After an extended period of reconciliation, Steve and Ernie return to discuss questions of discipleship .  Ernie proposes the alternate term "spiritual fathering" to describe the relationship of Paul with Timothy .  He affirms that this kind of authority-based model, built around implicit trust in the "father figure," is essential for new believers.  However, he argues that: A group of mature beli...

Train-Wreck Church 31.12.2020

David was surprised that Ernie was so upbeat about Tuesday's conversation with Janet.  Perhaps this is because Ernie was primarily hurt by Janet appearing to withdraw from the group relationship, then reaffirming that relationship (and Ernie's emotions) on Tuesday.  David was less optimistic, because Ernie and Janet had not appeared to reach a common understanding, which implied such problems were...

Two and a Half Aliens 28.12.2020

After a bruising (if surprisingly productive) episode last Tuesday , David shares frustrations about his relationship with Bill. He also has to remind Ernie that the reason he (David) didn't welcome Ernie's input was that Ernie didn't seem interested in understanding David.  Ernie conceded the point, but argued it was wrong for David to bring Bill up if he didn't want Ernie's help.  David immediat...

"I Crushed Your Spirit" 17.12.2020

Ernie is surprised to discover that David: Has not been truly engaged with The Great Reset during Season 6 Does not think Ernie shares his belief that The Great Reset should focus on relationships Feels obligated to conform to Ernie's values, as owner of the group (David, for his part, was surprised that this wasn't obvious to Ernie). Much of this seems to stem from Ernie's perspective that he is...

Voice of the Customer, with David Johnson 10.12.2020

Ernie and David debrief The Great Reset (12/7) . Should we primarily focus on being Discipled by Scripture ? Or should we be figuring out a way to articulate and implement the vision of our Producer, Ted Hahs? Whose vision really counts, anyway? Will Bill ever come back? And what would it take for David to feel this has all been worth it? References Automated Transcript (UberConference) What are U...

When Slappy Met Jesus, with Janet Davis 04.12.2020

In this powerful follow-on to last Tuesday's episode of The Great Reset , Janet shares about the trauma she experienced as a child, and the struggle she faces between expressing her anger and trying to be "perfect." In particular, she confesses a deep desire to slap whoever dissed her, rather than having to show them compassion. Ernie suggested naming that part of herself "Slappy", and asking what...

Model Behavior, with David Johnson 03.12.2020

David and Ernie both enjoyed Tuesday's episode of The Great Reset, but not in the same way.  Ernie saw it as encouraging progress towards the group learning how to "Love More Like Jesus."  But while David considered it a positive experience, he did not see it as any sort of real progress. He felt it was more like a random walk. Ernie conceded the apparent randomness, but claimed even that can gene...

Taking Advantage of Ted 26.11.2020

After several weeks of intense conversations, David and Ernie find themselves at loose ends. Ted has not only taken on the Producer role (with David as Director and Ernie as Writer ), but proposed a new format to experiment with in Season 6. That, plus a relatively uneventful Season Finale, means that the Dynamic Duo have nothing urgent to argue about. Rather that quit early, they take up David's...

Make the Call, with Ted Hahs (A Spiritual Issue, Part 3) 25.11.2020

Ernie proposes a structure for The Great Reset with Ted as Producer, David as Director, and Ernie as the Writer.  Unfortunately, David is not impressed with the part Ernie has written for him on the coming Tuesday.  Ernie is frustrated that David isn't onboard with his creative vision.  And everything is complicated by the unresolved questions from last week.  How will Ted make sense of it all?  A...

I Don't Understand (A Spiritual Issue, Part 2) 20.11.2020

After 20 minutes of chatting and context, David and Ernie resume their discussion from Part 1 on Christ-like leadership, this time with Janet acting as moderator. The goal was not so much to reach agreement, but help them understand why exactly they disagreed.   While the conversation was often passionate and occasionally blunt, both parties expressed sincere appreciation for the other's sincerity...

A Spiritual Issue, Part 1 20.11.2020

This week Ernie turns the tables and offers up a critique of David's style of leadership.  David defends his approach based on its effectiveness, and the fact that he doesn't find Ernie's alternatives particularly compelling.  This seems to mark the end of their two-week experiment of David leading the meetings, especially given how Ernie overrode David's decision to call out Bill's negativity las...

Assimilation 12.11.2020

In this wide-ranging conversion, Ernie and Janet touch on: The upside and downside of having powerful mental frameworks Apples of Gold's Seeker/Helper model Concerns vs Needs Design vs Training Studying vs Assimilating Scripture References Automated Transcript Apples of Gold ( Hope and Change for Humpty Dumpty ) There is no User Error, only Bad Design ( Harry Stevens ) What the Bible says about As...

Most Valuable Miracle 12.11.2020

After a long and winding road, David and Ernie were able to affirm: The most important thing is Loving More Like Jesus The next important thing is tools to help us Love More Like Jesus There aren't any great answers for what will do that The best way to develop such tools is iterating around Revelation, Reason, and Experience Ernie then shared his belief that hierarchical authority structures are...

Untying Loads 12.11.2020

As a follow-on to yesterday's The Great Reset (and preparation for next week's), Ernie asked about Ted's concerns, which seemed  to mirror those that Steve had.  Ted identified two things that concerned him about Ernie, which he was surprised that Ernie didn't already see: How defensively Ernie reacted when Steve rebuked him Ernie's negativity towards authority For the first, Ernie was initially s...

Individual Feelings 07.11.2020

Ernie and Bill continue processing last week's discussion on The Great Reset.  Ernie starts by confessing that he was so focused on working through his own reaction that he was blind to the fears and questions that many others in the group also had. Bill shares his own frustration that people seemed concerned about their own needs rather than those of the group.  Ernie pointed out that a lot of th...

You Have One Teacher 05.11.2020

Ernie and Janet wrestle with the strong (if perhaps metaphorical) language Jesus uses about the dangers of human titles and authority.  What is He trying to warn us against? Have we accidentally reinvented the systems Jesus condemned? And even if we agree with Him, how do we un-train ourselves from all the worldly habits we have acquired? References Automated Transcript Matthew 23

A Little Upset at You 05.11.2020

At the end of this season's Episode 4 of "The Great Reset", David suggested the group dedicate time to processing The Incident from Episode 1 .  They both agree it would be ideal if Steve could be part of that.  But even if not, Ernie acknowledged that there are larger issues that the group needs to discuss.  And that David was right that we owe it to the group to acknowledge their concerns, rathe...

Follow/Apply/Obey (The Holy Spirit) 03.11.2020

Robby shares his evolving perspective on key terms for how we related to Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and Scripture: follow apply obey abide figure out References Automated Transcript Discipled by Scripture Pirate's Code ( Disney Wiki ) John 21:17 ( TPT ) John 21:17 ( Interlinear )

Code of Conduct 30.10.2020

This week Ernie and David go around and around on whether: To be worried about the recent drop-off in attendance on The Great Reset We need an explicit code of conduct It is more dangerous to study scripture with or without an agenda "Love More Like Jesus" is a sufficient statement of purpose Ernie is merely inarticulate or deliberately deceptive about his goals David finally agreed to put that la...

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