Dirty Rotten Church Kids

This week we had to chance to talk to musician, songwriter and producer Aaron Gillespie (Underoath! The Almost!). We talked about nonlinear faith change, Christian creativity, impostor syndrome and mega church culture. We also talk about Halloween aka The Devil’s birthday and play a game/sleepless fever dream of Kirk Cameron Saves Halloween. Skip to 1:42:53 if you want to skip the interview. Broug...

This week we're talking about church plants - our experience with start up churches, some of the ideologies that played into the process, and how we feel looking back. We discuss church splits, territoriality and chasing the numbers. And finally we play a round of CCM and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by the star of Bethlehem with five other stars on top of it and your prime Sha...

This week we had the pleasure of speaking with author/podcaster/scholar/public ethicist Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (ActivisTheology!). We talk about his embodiment journey, the deconstruction that occurred during seminary, existing in the in-between space and re-contextualizing theology. We also talk about being in relationship with old church friends and play a game of Improv Ad Spot. Brought to yo...

This week we’re talking about the Pearly Gates—how we were taught about heaven, how that impacted our sense of empathy and presence, and what happened when we deconstructed it. We discuss some ways salvation was weaponized, play a game of CCM and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by Tomato Squeeze and Coldplay. The Scientist - Coldplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s70OsXlDD94 Jes...

This week we speak with author, speaker and content creator Mike McHargue (The Cozy Robot Show! You Are a Miracle and a Pain in the Ass). We hear about his story from evangelicalism into a combination of science, spirituality and wonder. We discuss the ways white supremacy and patriarchy survives using deniability, the art of deplatforming to center marginalized voices and debunk the phrase “rever...

This week we are back to talk about creativity within the church context - the ways we were taught to see our gifts, missional creativity and the template of Christian art. We also talk about faking it til you make it and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by Paying This Man and the head of Walk Disney in the walls of our studio. Irreverent Media Group www.irreverent.fm DRCK Patreon...

JLF is back! This week we had the pleasure of once again hanging out with author, sexuality/embodiment coach and real life friend Jamie Lee Finch (You Are Your Own). We talk about living into your own boundaries, trusting people with God and her new embodiment course. We also launch the merch line #BackslashDirty and take the ‘God is Not Dead’ franchise to Hell Court. If this episode doesn't sound...

We're changing it up this week and sharing an episode from our Patreon podcast, Bobodumdums! In this episode we reviewed Netflix's "A Week Away", and boy did we have thoughts. We also take trendy pastors to Hell Court, answer a Bad Apple question about family and define the phrase Nashville Sexy. If you want to skip the review jump to 1:17:10 Brought to you by Responsible Adultz and Mustached Batm...

Are you packed and ready? This week we talk about the Rapture: how the theology came to be, how we were taught about it growing up, how it has impacted so many church kids over the years. We also take Matthew West to Hell Court (JUSTICE!!) and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by JNCO Jesus and the Wallet Chain of Righteousness #RaptureAnxiety calls out evangelicals' toxic obsession...

This week we had the privilege of speaking to writer and podcaster Janice Lagata (God Has Not Given!). She is a Hillsong College alumnus, and was the former stage manager and original launch team member of Hillsong NYC. We discuss rockstar pastor Carl Lentz, church volunteer burnout and how toxic culture is not taught, it’s caught. We also take Lentz to Hell Court and have a Bible meditation with...

This week we talk about leaving church: why we and others like us left , the ways it is often handled, and how the pandemic has changed the church experience for so many. We also play a round of improv altar call, talk about Christian wedding ceremonies and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by ‘Sit at my Table, My Table’s My PeePee’™️ Irreverent Media Group www.irreverent.fm DRCK Pa...

This week we talk to Author and Speaker Brit Barron (Worth It!). We discuss her story leaving a mega church she pastored, coming to terms with her sexual identity and the hard work of spiritual evolution. We also talk about going back to your intuition, the aftermath of deconstruction and the pitfalls of leaving one fundamentalism for another. We also take Mark Driscoll to Hell Court. Hop to 1:24:...

No purpling! For this week’s episode we talk about church camp—the memories we associate with it, the ways it impacted us as campers (and camp leaders) and how we relate to those experiences after a faith change. We also play a game of Youth Group or Boy Band and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by eating warm chili out of a diaper while blindfolded...for Jesus of Nazareth. "Therea...

This week we had the opportunity to speak with Brady Hardin, co host of The Life After podcast! We talk to him about his deconstruction story from Calvinism to Secular Humanism and ways to find the values underneath the metaphors. We also talk about how sexual identity tied into his deconstruction process, and take all of America to Hell Court. If this interview isn't something you think you'd vib...

Jesus Christ! On this long ass DRCK episode following Easter, we talk about the big JC: how we were taught about Jesus, what we have let go of, and how much of our thoughts on Jesus has changed post-faith change. We also talk about Lil Nas X, the Atlanta shooting, Ravi Zacharias, and calling yourself a Christian. Last but not least, we begin (and end) a very serious beef with another podcast. Brou...

On this week's episode we had the opportunity to speak to Grace Baldridge! We talk about the new album Preacher's Kid, how it felt to make history as the first openly queer Christian artist to top the Christian Music charts, and the work of seeing all others as Image Bearers. We talk about the mainstream Christian music machine and answer a couple questions from the Bad Apples. Before the intervie...

This week we talk about deconstruction...again. With the word in the forefront of many evangelical conversations, we decided to discuss how we view deconstruction, what it looked like for us, and some of the narratives evangelicalism is currently trying to force onto it. We also bring Baptist Pastor Stewart-Allen Clark’s misogynist ass to Hell Court and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to...

On this episode we got to talk with John Mark McMillan! We discuss his journey of embracing a holistic spirituality over the years, how his faith often shifts from day to day and how he approaches creativity. We also talk about his latest record and introduce a new segment right at the top that made us cringe read hard. Brought to you by that one lady that brought an actual sword to a worship conf...

Love is in the air, Bad Apples. For the episode before Valentine’s Day we wanted to talk about Christian dating: how we were taught to hold out for marriage, guarding our hearts and courting the way Jesus always intended. We also play a game of Improv Altar Call and hear stories from the bad apples. Brought to you by purity rings and guilt. DRCK Patreon https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkid...

We're back, Bad Apples. To kick off Season 2 and the first episode of 2021, we thought who better to speak with than author and embodiment coach Jamie Lee Finch, aka the artist formerly known as The Sex Witch. We discuss common dismissive arguments we get, the need to establish boundaries and treating your body as a person. If this interview isn't something you think you'd vibe with you can skip t...

It’s the last episode of 2020 and of Season One! In this one we talk about miracles—how we were taught them growing up, how we see them now, and how belief can be a feedback loop. We also talk about the loneliness of Christmas in quarantine and hear stories from the bad apples. Brought to you by the sermon jams and robot Benny Hinn. Ecclesia Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPIDY_UO2w4  DRCK...

One year of DRCK! Can't even believe it. In this episode we take a look back at our favorite show moments, take questions from the Bad Apples and discuss what we've learned. We also talk about Carl Lentz the sports agent and the Joel Osteen cube. Brought to you by our brand new Patreon which you should for sure join. DRCK Patreon https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids DRCK Merch https://tee...

This week we speak to Cindy Wang Brandt (Author! Podcaster! Speaker!). We discuss parenting after leaving evangelicalism, re-framing how we see children and raising our family like a playground. Cindy answers questions from the Bad Apples and reminds us of the permission we have during and post-deconstruction. If this interview isn't something you think you'd vibe with you can skip to 1:24:29. Bro...

This week we talk about thoughts and prayers. How we were taught about it, some of the ways we saw it abused and unpack what prayer means on this side of faith change. We also talk about tone policing, vilifying the other, and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by the shofar and flute. Aspen Green (use promo code BADAPPLE) www.aspengreen.com Leefy Organics(use promo code BADAPPLE) ww...

For episode 27 we talk to author, sex educator, youtuber and blogger Brenda Marie Davies aka God is Grey! We discuss experiencing the Divine for yourself, unlearning purity culture and finding sexual integrity. We also talk about sin, virginity, inviting God into the bedroom and get the scoop on her new book. If this interview isn't something you think you'd vibe with you can skip to 1:13:35. Brou...