Davy Fung + PJ Onori
Design System Office Hours
Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.
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Davy Fung + PJ Onori
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 28: AI, Allen Iverson 27.02.2023 34:25
With all this chat (pun included) about ChatGPT, how else can we utilize some programmable help with AI and automation. Plus, the differences between a sweet potato and a yam. Episode Transcripts
Ep 27: Listener Questions 13.02.2023 39:22
Davy and PJ answer listener questions that came in from some friends of the program. We touch on fun component library design only components, governance, office hours issue tracking, documentation, interviewing, and much more. Episode Transcripts
Ep 26: Design System Roles 30.01.2023 38:42
With the rise of design system teams in orgs, Davy and PJ talk about how their roles have progressed through product design, and design ops. How have things changed while we have come in and out of IC <> management? Today in our roles, what does IC leadership in Design Systems look like for us? Episode Transcripts
Ep 25: Happy Birthday, Best of '22 17.01.2023 49:49
Happy 2023 and 1st birthday to the podcast! We got a treat for those new the program, our greatest hits from the first 20 episodes. Timestamps: Ep 9: ROI (02:08), Ep 10: Hindsight (07:00), Ep 13: Feedback (11:42), Ep 18: Contributions (15:38), Ep 20: Education and Onboarding (19:59), Ep 2: Design Technologists (25:00), Ep 3: Releases (28:33), Ep 5: Figma is NOT a DS (30:54), Ep 6: Mandates (38:55)...
Ep 24: Lets Scale This Thing, Year 2 and So On 05.01.2023 32:20
Welcome to the show 2023, even tho this was recorded in 2022. This is the last of our trilogy series, about how to get started in Design Systems. What happens after you get to year 2 and so on? Is your job done because everyone is bought in and good actors and advocates supporting the system? Episode Transcripts
Ep 23: Lets Keep it Goin, Year 1-2 13.12.2022 33:30
2nd in our series of the first years of design systems, Davy and PJ talk about how to grow the team, and where we have decided on our teams to focus on; which of the design system knobs, library, education, documentation, we decided to turn. Episode Transcript
Ep 22: Let's Get Started, Year 0-1 30.11.2022 33:48
Originally episode 21, if not for our last special episode on layoffs, we talk about how to get a design system up and running, and things we looked to achieve in years 0-1. This ep is the first in a series of 3 episodes about getting started in design systems. Episode Transcripts
Ep 21: ROI During Layoffs 10.11.2022 32:47
During this rough week at Meta and Twitter, Davy and PJ discuss how to continuously prove ROI for yourself and your team in the light of operating on leaner teams. Episode Transcripts
Ep 20: Education and Onboarding 31.10.2022 36:39
Happy Halloween and 20th episode to us! Davy and PJ talk about how their teams support educating designers and the continuous task of training product designers, whether they are new to the org, or just new to the design system. Episode Transcripts
Ep 19: Team Models 21.10.2022 32:30
Davy and PJ talk about different design system team make ups at Disney Streaming, Meta, and Pinterest. How federated vs centralized have worked for them; and how big does your team need to be? Episode Transcripts
Ep 18: Contributions 05.10.2022 33:16
Davy and PJ talk about how they're thinking about contribution models on their teams and mechanisms to get better XFN collaboration between design and engineering. Episode Transcripts
Ep 17.5: Long Live Figma (BONUS) 19.09.2022 35:26
Davy and PJ react to the earth-shattering news that Adobe is “teaming up" with Figma, and what that may or may not mean to us. Episode Transcripts
Ep 17: Copy Cats and Mimicry 15.09.2022 33:03
Davy and PJ discuss issues with copy cat design patterns and frameworks. What might work for your company may not work for the next. Design systems is not one size fits all, but fits most. Episode Transcripts
Ep 16: Automation 31.08.2022 34:52
Davy talks with PJ about various ways of automating design system and design ops tasks to help our day-to-day lives as worker-bees easier. Episode Transcripts
Ep 15: Support 18.08.2022 27:59
Davy and PJ talk about their methods of design systems support, ranging from Davy's fave, Office Hours, to async support on Slack. A good episode candidate to do design systems bingo/drinking game. Episode Transcripts
Ep 14: File Hygiene 06.08.2022 29:51
PJ grills Davy about his super organized and sometimes outrageous file hygiene mandates he lead while working at Disney Streaming. How can you use organization and naming to drive better alignment across design and engineering partners? Episode Transcripts
Ep 13: Feedback 18.07.2022 33:50
Davy and PJ talk about how we've incorporated design and engineering user feedback on our design system work. Leaning into surveys, PJ has had great success half-over-half by employing a new product framework.. listening. Episode Transcripts
Ep 12: Speaking 29.06.2022 31:33
Davy talks about speaking at his first design conference last month, UXDX. We talk about how to find your voice and how to get started for those whom want to engage more with the product design community. Episode Transcripts
Ep 11: Adoption 07.06.2022 30:20
We took a long Memorial Day vacay and back to talk about adoption methods and get how to get designers excited to use your design system. Chatter about how different strategies apply for differing scale of teams. Episode Transcripts
Ep 10: Hindsight, What We Wish We've Known... 23.05.2022 27:12
Happy 10th episode birthday! We wanted to take a look at and see, knowing what we've known about working on design systems at our companies, what we wish we would have known had we started today. Episode Transcripts
Ep 9: ROI 13.05.2022 33:20
We're almost at episode 10, and we're here to talk about ROI, driving impact. It has to do with learning what leadership's LOVE LANGUAGE is. Episode Transcripts
Ep 8: Multi-brand Design Systems 27.04.2022 33:16
We talk about a fun topic of scale, how to support multiple brands under 1 design system. Davy talks a bit about considerations when designing across Disney+ and Star+ and the usage of theming to design for one system in whole. Episode Transcripts
Ep 7: JIRA MORMONT 14.04.2022 35:26
We've polled our listeners and heard that JIRA was their favorite design tool, over Figma. So we decided to talk about how we've utilized JIRA as Design System product owners and how it's impacted the way we plan our work. Episode Transcriptions
Ep 6: Mandates 29.03.2022 27:41
Mandates, governance, we discuss how our orgs approach the mandates for usage of the Design Systems. Episode Transcripts
Ep 5: Figma is NOT a Design System 16.03.2022 32:35
Is your work in Figma a Design System? We chat about how design artifacts and tools are just one portion of what a system represents. Episode Transcripts
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