The Curiosity Department
Design Better
Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
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Jul 1, 2026
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Episodes
Benjamin Evans: How Airbnb uses inclusive design to create a successful business 28.05.2019 47:45
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/benjamin-evans Benjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclus...
Abigail Hart Gray: Google's Director of UX explains design to non-designers with numbers 13.05.2019 43:59
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/abigail-gray Abigail Hart Gray, Director of UX at Google, is one of the most inspiring design leaders we know. A self-proclaimed analytics nerd, Abigail uses numbers to deftly communicate the value of design to her colleagues, giving her team the runway to do great work. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron get Abigail’s take on...
Julie Zhuo: Facebook's former VP of Product Design on what she got right and wrong as a leader 29.04.2019 51:35
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/julie-zhuo Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about...
Bonus Episode: Leah Buley and the New Frontier of Design Maturity 18.04.2019 36:25
What if you could unlock the full potential for business impact in design? On today's episode we are joined by Leah Buley, InVision's Director of Design Education and author of the new report on design in business, The New Design Frontier. Leah shares the insights she's learned from surveying thousands of companies to explore the relationship between design practices and business performance. We c...
Season 3 Special Preview 11.04.2019 2:58
The next season of the Design Better podcast is nearly here. Listen to a special preview of the upcoming season which focuses on the impact and challenges of the connected workflow. We sat down with some incredible design leaders from Facebook, Airbnb, Google, Wall Street Journal, Atlassian, and Intuit for honest conversations that will give you a fresh perspective on the way you work. Be sure to...
Jake Knapp: The guy who brought us the design sprint wants us to rethink time management 09.10.2018 52:00
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-make-time What if you could set aside a distraction-free space to accomplish one meaningful thing in your life each day? How might that change your relationships, hobbies, work, or mental wellbeing? In a special episode of the Design Better Podcast, we talk to Jake Knapp, co-author of the New York Times bestseller Sprint, about his new book,...
Margaret Stewart: Facebook's VP of Product Design on what unifies big teams 06.08.2018 35:27
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/margaret-gould-stewart As organizations grow, they tend to think in terms of processes and data, and although those elements are vital to scale, teams sometimes lose sight of the why. Key to scaling is building an infrastructure that supports a company’s core mission. In our final Season 2 episode of the Design Better Podcast, Facebook Vice President o...
Kim Williams: How Indeed's design system inspires collaboration 23.07.2018 38:03
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/kim-williams A design system helps deliver a unified experience for the end user, no matter what the medium. But it also means a cohesive internal experience as well. Design systems unite teams across time and space, bring designers and engineers together through a shared language, and help designers focus on experience over style. In our newest episod...
Rewind: Irene Au explains the secrets to scaling design teams at Google 09.07.2018 33:03
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/irene-au For many years, Google’s engineering-led culture cherished efficiency over user experience. Irene Au arrived at a pivotal moment in the company’s history and helped shape the way Google’s products clearly value design today. In this Rewind episode of the Design Better Podcast, Khosla Venture’s Irene Au talks about how she helped scale design...
Vas Natarajan: Hallmarks of a healthy team and better designer/developer partnerships 25.06.2018 30:02
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/vas-natarajan There isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach to scaling design, but there are similarities between fast-growing companies that prime them for lasting success. In this episode, Accel Partners’ Vas Natarajan talks about effective ways design leaders can operationalize hiring and scaling. He also discusses the hallmarks of a healthy team at any...
Maria Giudice: The origin of DesignOps and how to make Agile not suck for designers 11.06.2018 53:29
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/maria-giudice Rallying around a shared vision is one of the biggest challenges for design teams operating at scale. So how can you foster that vision and bring people together to execute it? In this episode, Hot Studio Founder and former Autodesk VP of Experience Design Maria Giudice talks about overcoming team silos and learning to lead with influence...
Megan Quinn: A venture capitalist's views on how to scale a team 29.05.2018 48:52
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/megan-quinn Do you ever wonder what it’s like to be part of fast-growing, design-led companies like Slack or Medium? Every team has challenges with scaling—and it turns out those challenges share many common traits when you peek behind the curtain. In this episode, Spark Capital’s Megan Quinn talks about the common hurdles she sees across companies as...
Meriah Garrett: Secrets to leading big design teams 15.05.2018 45:08
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/meriah-garrett When companies start scaling design, the emphasis is sometimes on getting more shipped—but what if the first deliverable was a balanced team instead of a new feature? USAA’s Chief Design Officer Meriah Garrett has a unique approach to creating balanced design teams. In this new episode, she also discusses her role in the C-suite and ho...
TS Balaji: Thinking and acting like a business leader 30.04.2018 48:19
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ts-balaji Design leaders spend a lot of energy trying to get a seat at the table. It’s an ongoing process—and it’s tough to keep design involved over time. What questions should be asked along the way, and what business language can design leaders use? In this episode, LogMeIn’s Vice President Product Design & Customer Experience TS Balaji talks about...
Diana Mounter: Building efficient design systems at Github 16.04.2018 39:18
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/diana-mounter Design systems give product designers and developers reusable, interchangeable components to make the design process efficient and repeatable. They’re a critical part of scaling—so why build everything from scratch when you can plug in pre-built elements? In this episode, GitHub’s Design Systems Manager Diana Mounter talks about navigatin...
Meredith Black: building DesignOps dream teams 01.04.2018 39:27
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/meredith-black A lot of companies are investing more in design. As they do, the organization scales. As it scales, it has to operationalize, become more efficient, and plug into the rest of the company—but what makes all that possible? In this episode, Pinterest’s Head of Design Operations Meredith Black talks about the emerging practice of DesignOps,...
Lynsey Thornton: Inside Shopify’s growth, re-organization, and design system 18.03.2018 37:09
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/lynsey-thornton Over the last 10 years, Shopify has grown from a scrappy 5-person startup to a team of more than 3,000 across five locations. Scaling a company that fast takes a lot of talented people—and Lynsey Thornton is one of them. As Shopify’s VP of UX and Core Product, Lynsey takes on an array of challenging tasks. In the first episode of the se...
Mia Blume: Are you ready to shift from team member to team leader? 29.10.2017 42:16
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/mia-blume “Will I lose my creativity? Will I be stuck in meetings all day?” Those are common concerns for any individual contributor transitioning to a managerial role—even experienced product leaders like Mia Blume. Luckily, Mia’s impressive career spans positions at places like IDEO, Pinterest, and Square, so she’s had plenty of opportunities to see...
Christian Madsbjerg: How ethnography leads to a deeper understanding of users 15.10.2017 52:56
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/christian-madsbjerg In today’s tech-driven economy, it seems like it can be hard to justify the value of a traditional liberal arts education. But given the speed at which AI-driven advancements are taking over traditional jobs—even technical ones—perhaps a better understanding of humans and their cultures is exactly what we need. Because being product...
Jake Knapp: Lessons from running 150+ design sprints at Google Ventures 01.10.2017 57:52
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-design-sprint If we asked you to name a recent book that’s really changed how product teams address sticky challenges, there’s a good chance Jake Knapp’s Sprint would be at the top of your list. Since publishing and popularizing the process, design sprints have become a tool for teams at organizations as wide ranging as Prudential, the Unite...
Laura Martini: So your boss doesn't believe in design research 17.09.2017 40:06
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/007-laura-martini-getting-to-the-right-finish-line If there’s anyone we’ve interviewed on the Design Better Podcast so far that really embodies the product-driven concept, it’s Laura Martini. Not only does she have a background in both design and engineering, but she also has a keen product sense with a real understanding the business factors behind go...
Michael Leon: How skateboarding prepared him for Nike, Patagonia, and Sonos 03.09.2017 40:50
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/michael-leon How do you go from being a self-professed skate punk, to a design director at Nike, creative director at Patagonia, and land as the global creative director for Sonos? As a creative force, Michael Leon has worked with some of the most product driven companies out there. In this episode, Aaron and Eli talk with Michael about the tension bet...
Alex Schleifer: Airbnb's hasty Super Bowl decision guided by a clear mission 20.08.2017 49:32
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/alex-schleifer Airbnb’s mission is both simple and powerful: to help create a world where you can belong anywhere. Alex Schleifer, Airbnb’s head of design, fully embraces this mission. To create the products that make the Airbnb experience so welcoming and immersive, he also believes in being product driven, and organizes his teams in an Engineering, P...
Albert Lee: Learning UX from Frank Gehry, IDEO, and Chez Panisse 21.07.2017 44:39
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/albert-lee Albert Lee has had an amazing arc to his career. From his beginnings as a wine-steward at Chez Panisse, to working at Frank Gehry’s architecture studio, and on to the role of Associate Partner at IDEO and now Design Partner at NEA, the nation’s largest VC firm, Albert always strives to work with the best of the best. Given the breadth of his...
Dan Winger: The evolution of LEGO from simple bricks to interactive storytelling 21.07.2017 34:57
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/dan-winger If you’re anything like us, playing with LEGOs was a foundational part of your childhood, and a big part of the reason you got interested in design. And given the arc of their history, it is clear that LEGO is a product-driven company: their products are addictively engaging, highly-engineered design masterpieces, they clearly understand the...
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