The Curiosity Department
Design Better
Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with guests across many creative fields, helping you hone your craft, unlock your creativity, and learn the art of collaboration. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”
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Oct 21, 2026
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Episodes
Nancy Douyon: Ethical and inclusive design 17.02.2020 1:10:17
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/nancy-douyon Nancy Douyon has a remarkable story that lead her into a career in technology. From her childhood in Haiti, to moving to Boston and taking part in an MIT program as a kid, to running away from home and then teaching as a teenager, and on to design roles at Google and Uber, Nancy’s unconventional path gives her a unique perspective on how t...
Season 4 Preview Episode 12.02.2020 3:57
https://www.designbetterpodcast.com Next week we'll be launching our fourth season of the Design Better Podcast by InVision. Listen now for a special preview of the new season and get ready for new episodes coming to you weekly starting February 18th. In this new season we’re taking a closer look at how teams can work better together for greater impact across design, engineering, business, and pro...
Rewind: David Kelley, Founder of IDEO and the Stanford d.school, on Creative Confidence and Aligning Teams 04.02.2020 47:46
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/david-kelley-creative-confidence To celebrate 1 million listens to the Design Better Podcast, we're rewinding to our episode with David Kelley, Founder of IDEO and the Stanford d.school, in honor of David just receiving the Edison Award for Innovation. And we're sending a special thanks to YOU for listening and helping us reach this 1 million milestone...
Stephen Gates: Hiring and retaining the best design talent 19.12.2019 53:37
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/stephen-gates InVision is starting a new series of quarterly reports on design trends. The first in the series, a Design Trends Report on Talent, was created to help you learn proactive new ways to recruit, develop, and retain creative talent. In this bonus episode, we chat with Stephen Gates, Head Design Evangelist at InVision, about some of the thin...
Lessons from Season 3 08.11.2019 28:15
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/season3recap The third season of the Design Better Podcast recently wrapped up, where we explored the connected workflow: how designers can work more effectively and efficiently with their engineering and product counterparts to create incredible customer experiences. We interviewed guests ranging from Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and...
Jina Anne: Getting clarity on the components and maintenance of design systems 27.09.2019 39:13
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jina-anne If you’re engaged in any sort of community surrounding Design Systems, whether it’s the Design Systems Slack, or the Clarity Conference, then you have likely benefited from Jina Anne’s work. A self-styled Design Systems Advocate, Jina has been passionate about creating events, content and resources that bring together communities of people wh...
Diego Rodriguez: How Intuit built design culture into the business 09.09.2019 42:53
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/diego-rodriguez Diego Rodriguez has had a remarkable career at the intersection of design, business, and education. He has served as Global Managing Director of design firm IDEO, founding faculty member of Stanford’s d.school, and is currently Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. In this episode, we discuss how design c...
Journey into the connected workflow 03.09.2019 3:52
As we prepare for the last episode of Season 3, take a look back at some of the stories that have inspired us. In this short update episode, hear from hosts Aarron Walter and Eli Woolery about what they've enjoyed about this season of the Design Better Podcast so far and preview our upcoming episode with Diego Rodriguez, Executive Vice President, Chief Product and Design Officer at Intuit. There's...
Che Douglas: Transforming design at The Wall Street Journal and Booking.com 19.08.2019 42:58
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/che-douglas Che Douglas led the transformation of the design team at The Wall Street Journal, from a service-based organization to a strategic component of an embedded Engineering, Product and Design (EPD) structure. We chat with Che, who is now VP of Design at Booking.com, about how he got the right people involved to transform their design organizati...
Lori Kaplan: Atlassian's playbook for team collaboration 01.08.2019 35:58
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/lori-kaplan Lori Kaplan is a veteran design leader, whose pioneering work includes authorship of the original Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines in the 1980s. In this episode we speak with Lori about how the Atlassian playbook helps both internal and external teams address design challenges, the deep roots of cross-functional collaboration at the com...
Quinton Larson: How Indeed kicks off projects the right way 22.07.2019 40:33
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/quinton-larson Quinton Larson is a design leader who has consistently brought thoughtful leadership into the companies where he works. In this episode we speak with Quinton about his prior work at IDEO and eBay, his involvement with Indeed’s Job Seeker Journey team, how he makes sure the right people are involved in project kickoffs, and how design sys...
Bob Baxley: How Apple ran design like the Saturday Night Live writer's room 08.07.2019 51:28
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/bob-baxley What do Yahoo, Apple, and Pinterest have in common? Silicon Valley design vet Bob Baxley. With extensive design leadership experience under his belt, Bob knows a thing or two about bridging the gaps between teams to help champion a connected workflow. In this episode, Aarron and Eli tap Bob’s insights on productive design reviews, getting in...
Josh Ulm: Wells Fargo’s VP of Design on how design should be influencing business 25.06.2019 51:58
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/josh-ulm Josh Ulm has quite the CV—Adobe Design Lead, Vodafone Head of UX, Oracle VP of Design, and now Wells Fargo SVP of Strategic Design and Insights. One thing he’s learned along the way is that “the most valuable role for design to play is influencing the business—not just the product." In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli...
Brad Frost and Dan Mall: Rethinking Agile and how designers collaborate with developers 07.06.2019 50:19
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/brad-frost-dan-mall Enter design system pros Brad Frost and Dan Mall, long-time collaborators known for their expertise in bridging the gap between designers and developers. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Aarron and Eli talk with Dan and Brad about reducing friction between these two very different disciplines. They explore a few misconc...
Benjamin Evans: How Airbnb uses inclusive design to create a successful business 28.05.2019 47:45
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/benjamin-evans Benjamin Evans, Inclusive Design Lead for Airbnb, is part of a new kind of problem solvers tackling issues like racism, sexism, and bias in digital product design. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron chat with Benjamin about using techniques like design thinking, research, and storytelling to ensure a more inclus...
Abigail Hart Gray: Google's Director of UX explains design to non-designers with numbers 13.05.2019 43:59
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/abigail-gray Abigail Hart Gray, Director of UX at Google, is one of the most inspiring design leaders we know. A self-proclaimed analytics nerd, Abigail uses numbers to deftly communicate the value of design to her colleagues, giving her team the runway to do great work. In this episode of the Design Better Podcast, Eli and Aarron get Abigail’s take on...
Julie Zhuo: Facebook's former VP of Product Design on what she got right and wrong as a leader 29.04.2019 51:35
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/julie-zhuo Listen as Julie Zhuo, VP of Product Design at Facebook and author of The Making of a Manager, recalls some of her earliest professional experiences at one of the fastest growing companies on the planet. She reveals how she got her start and grew to be a highly influential design leader renowned for building top-notch teams. Julie talks about...
Bonus Episode: Leah Buley and the New Frontier of Design Maturity 18.04.2019 36:25
What if you could unlock the full potential for business impact in design? On today's episode we are joined by Leah Buley, InVision's Director of Design Education and author of the new report on design in business, The New Design Frontier. Leah shares the insights she's learned from surveying thousands of companies to explore the relationship between design practices and business performance. We c...
Season 3 Special Preview 11.04.2019 2:58
The next season of the Design Better podcast is nearly here. Listen to a special preview of the upcoming season which focuses on the impact and challenges of the connected workflow. We sat down with some incredible design leaders from Facebook, Airbnb, Google, Wall Street Journal, Atlassian, and Intuit for honest conversations that will give you a fresh perspective on the way you work. Be sure to...
Jake Knapp: The guy who brought us the design sprint wants us to rethink time management 09.10.2018 52:00
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jake-knapp-make-time What if you could set aside a distraction-free space to accomplish one meaningful thing in your life each day? How might that change your relationships, hobbies, work, or mental wellbeing? In a special episode of the Design Better Podcast, we talk to Jake Knapp, co-author of the New York Times bestseller Sprint, about his new book,...
Margaret Stewart: Facebook's VP of Product Design on what unifies big teams 06.08.2018 35:27
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/margaret-gould-stewart As organizations grow, they tend to think in terms of processes and data, and although those elements are vital to scale, teams sometimes lose sight of the why. Key to scaling is building an infrastructure that supports a company’s core mission. In our final Season 2 episode of the Design Better Podcast, Facebook Vice President o...
Kim Williams: How Indeed's design system inspires collaboration 23.07.2018 38:03
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/kim-williams A design system helps deliver a unified experience for the end user, no matter what the medium. But it also means a cohesive internal experience as well. Design systems unite teams across time and space, bring designers and engineers together through a shared language, and help designers focus on experience over style. In our newest episod...
Rewind: Irene Au explains the secrets to scaling design teams at Google 09.07.2018 33:03
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/irene-au For many years, Google’s engineering-led culture cherished efficiency over user experience. Irene Au arrived at a pivotal moment in the company’s history and helped shape the way Google’s products clearly value design today. In this Rewind episode of the Design Better Podcast, Khosla Venture’s Irene Au talks about how she helped scale design...
Vas Natarajan: Hallmarks of a healthy team and better designer/developer partnerships 25.06.2018 30:02
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/vas-natarajan There isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach to scaling design, but there are similarities between fast-growing companies that prime them for lasting success. In this episode, Accel Partners’ Vas Natarajan talks about effective ways design leaders can operationalize hiring and scaling. He also discusses the hallmarks of a healthy team at any...
Maria Giudice: The origin of DesignOps and how to make Agile not suck for designers 11.06.2018 53:29
Show notes: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/maria-giudice Rallying around a shared vision is one of the biggest challenges for design teams operating at scale. So how can you foster that vision and bring people together to execute it? In this episode, Hot Studio Founder and former Autodesk VP of Experience Design Maria Giudice talks about overcoming team silos and learning to lead with influence...
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