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Deep Space Pride: A Gay Star Trek Podcast
Welcome to Deep Space Pride! Mike Thurlow and Johnson Lee are two self-professed gay geeks who love to obsess over Star Trek - join us as we talk about some of our favorite episodes, revel as yet another new series is announced, and ramble on about some off topic content. And maybe once in a while, we'll simply talk about living as two gay guys in New York City.
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Episodes
092 - The One Where We Catch Up With the News 15.08.2022 52:18
We're finally back to recording episodes after a month off! Mike is back into the swing of things, which means we have a chance to catch up on all the news items we missed in the last month - from Nichelle Nichols' passing, to the announcements at Comic-Con. And just because we can't help ourselves, we also chat about all the other shows we're watching, from The Sandman to Paper Girls. October is...
091 - The One With Callie Wright 05.08.2022 1:20:32
Mike is back from his big Asia trip, but he's still catching up with life and getting over jet lag! Fortunately, we had banked this great conversation with special guest, Callie Wright from Queersplaining and the Lambda Quadrant. We met Callie at Star Trek Mission Chicago back in April where they were part of an amazing panel about LGBTQIA+ representation in Star Trek. We talk about queer life, th...
090 - The One Where We Talk About Everything Else We're Watching 22.07.2022 1:18:11
Star Trek is taking a slight hiatus, which means that we have to come up with other stuff to talk about! Fortunately, Mike and Johnson are connoisseurs not only of Star Trek, but of many other shows and franchises. Join us as we deep dive into all the other media content we're consuming, including but not limited to For All Mankind, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Umbrella Academy, Westworld, and Fire Island....
089 - The One Where We Wrap Up Strange New Worlds Season 1 15.07.2022 1:30:27
Mike and Johnson are back on track this week with their episode discussions - this time, they're wrapping up the first season of Strange New Worlds! They go into lengthy discussion about "All Those Who Wander" and "A Quality of Mercy" - including the debate over a major character death, their reactions to the season finale, and some predictions for Season 2. Due to upcoming travel and vacation, Mi...
088 - The One Where We Interview Wil Wheaton 07.07.2022 1:32:02
This week we chatted with Wil Wheaton, who plays Wesley Crusher in the Star Trek Franchise. He also likes to go by "New York Times Best Selling Author Wil Wheaton!" We talk to Wil about his book Still Just A Geek, his very busy life (which includes hosting The Ready Room for Paramount+), and his love of Star Trek. Wil also opens up about his own experiences that inspired his book, and his allyship...
087 - The One Where Sci-Fi Meets Fantasy 01.07.2022 48:43
Before we get into the episode this week, we have some news items to share - including an update on an upcoming episode of Deep Space Pride where we get to interview Wil Wheaton! We also touch on SNW Episode 9, "Those Who Wander" - and discuss our hot take on some big reveals while it's timely. We then dive into our discussion of "The Elysian Kingdom." Despite the episode's lack of true significan...
086 - The One With Captain Angel and a Sybok Reveal 24.06.2022 1:32:41
Happy Pride to all our listeners! At the start of this episode, we reflect a bit on the importance of Pride, given some of our own recent experiences. Mike has also fully recovered from COVID, while Johnson has introduced his mom to more 21st Century tech. Our episode discussion this week is on "The Serene Squall," which features an amazing Jesse James Keitel as Dr. Aspen/Captain Angel. We test a...
085 - A Classic Star Trek Story with a Moral Question 17.06.2022 1:10:26
Mike still has COVID, but he's recovering - in the meantime, he's fully taking advantage of his isolation to catch up on some great TV! We accidentally go down an Off Topic rabbit hole at the beginning of the episode to discuss what he's watching, including The Morning Show and For All Mankind. We dive a bit deeper into the latter, and discuss how shows such as For All Mankind and The Expanse are...
084 - A Double Feature with Gorn and Hijinks 10.06.2022 1:19:43
After taking a week off, we're back - though Mike is now the one with COVID! But ever the trooper, he stays committed to the cause of talking about Star Trek on a regular basis. This week, we cover off on two episodes of Strange New Worlds - though we get a bit sidetracked talking about some off topic (e.g. Obi-Wan Kenobi) before diving in. When we finally focus, we dive into Johnson's two favorit...
083 - The One Where Una Comes Out 31.05.2022 1:17:16
This week, Mike and Johnson did a LOT of Star Trekking - probably too much! Other than recording this podcast, they went to a Star Trek exhibit, tried to see Mary Wiseman's play (but failed), and watched The Motion Picture in a theater. We promise we're not crazy fanatics! We then chat about the latest SNW episode, "Ghosts of Illyria" - which presents us with a mystery of the week, as well as givi...
082 - The One Where Spock Gives a Pep Talk 23.05.2022 1:01:10
Now that Picard Season 2 is fully behind us, we can fully focus on Strange New Worlds! This week, we have an Uhura-centric story in "Children of the Comet," and for once in quite some time Mike and Johnson have a lot less to argue about. We discuss how this show is giving us characters that seem fully fleshed out and lived in, and we talk about some of our favorite moments from the episode.
081 - The One With a Strange New World 13.05.2022 1:57:49
We've finally made it to the finale of Picard S2! Are all of our burning questions successfully answered? We discuss in detail our thoughts on the resolutions to this season's dangling plot threads, before we each give the season an overall rating (spoiler: Johnson gives a lower score than Mike). We then both talk about something that we're both on the same page on - the premiere of Strange New Wo...
080 - The One With The Reformed Borg Queen 09.05.2022 1:25:55
The embargo is OVER and we can finally talk about Strange New Worlds! Mike and Johnson give their quick takes on what they've been able to catch of Strange New Worlds so far, and what they're excited for folks to see in the upcoming season. Long story short - we're both excited and enthusiastic! We then move on to talking about the penultimate episode of Picard Season 2, "Hide and Seek." Johnson d...
079 - The One With More Childhood Baggage 30.04.2022 1:26:53
The countdown to Strange New Worlds officially begins, while we get closer to the Star Trek Picard finale! On this week's episode, we chat a little bit about some random Star Trek news, and what's in store for us over the course of the next month - including seeing The Motion Picture in theaters! Will Johnson stay awake? Only time will tell. We then move onto "Mercy," which really starts to set th...
078 - The One with Gaius Baltar 23.04.2022 1:32:24
The high from Chicago is long over, and yet there's plenty of Star Trek to discuss! This week, we cover off on a bit of light Star Trek news, which includes us NOT being invited to the Strange New Worlds NYC premiere! Which Johnson wouldn't go to anyway because he has other plans. And congrats to Wil Wheaton, who has a bestselling book on his hands! We then chat about this week's episode of Picard...
077 - The One That's Like a Hollywood Musical 15.04.2022 1:32:15
We're back from Chicago, and there's a lot to talk about! We go over the details of the three day convention, and discuss some of our favorite moments. From Wil Wheaton and Kate Mulgrew, to Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks, we traverse the ups and downs of the conference, and what we're hoping for next time. We also talk briefly about the Season 3 cast announcement of Picard, and the implication...
076 - The One With The Heist Prep 08.04.2022 1:16:24
It's the week leading up to Mission Chicago, and we are moderately excited! In a shocking twist of events, Paramount decided to release the (amazing) trailer for Strange New Worlds, which we totally didn't think was going to happen before the convention. We chat about this first look and what we're looking forward to in Chicago, before diving into the most recent episode of Picard, "Fly Me to The...
075 - The One Where We Meet Young Guinan 01.04.2022 1:42:07
We're back to just talking about one episode of Star Trek, but somehow this podcast episode still ended up being an hour and forty minutes? :| This week, we talk about a bit of Star Trek news, including our first looks at some of Strange New World's new characters. We then head into "Watcher," which sets up some new mysteries for us to unpack in this season of Picard. Mike and Johnson have some di...
074 - The One Where Discovery is Over and We Want More Jurati and the Borg Queen 25.03.2022 1:14:06
It took a long time to get from there to here... but Discovery Season 4 is finally over. Mike and Johnson provide their thoughts on the finale of Discovery, which are mostly comprised of complaints (justified)? Hopefully a shorter Season 5 will bring us back to tighter storytelling, and and less bewildering character moments. But hey, Stacey Abrams? We then move onto chatting about the Picard epis...
073 - The One Where Discovery Continues to Try Our Patience But We Are Loving Picard 21.03.2022 1:15:16
Mike is sick but ever the trooper, and is absolutely ready to talk about Star Trek!! On this week's episode we continue to talk through double servings of Star Trek, starting with Discovery's penultimate episode, "Species 10-C." The only really positive thing that we have to say about this episode is that Tig Notaro has more to do than usual - otherwise we're very ready to move on with our lives....
072 - The One Where We Are Over Discovery and We Revisit the Picard Premiere 12.03.2022 1:19:52
And this week on Discovery!! - things are dragging. Mike and Johnson discuss the bit of a slog that is "Rosetta," and how this season has teased out the mystery behind Species 10-C for far too long. Whether it's complications due to the pandemic, bad writing, or a combination of the two - we feel that Discovery hasn't really done the best job at sustaining our attention for such a long arc. While...
071 - The One with Two Episodes of Discovery and the Picard Premiere 08.03.2022 1:39:57
We only took a week off, but it feels like an eternity! Mike and Johnson have a lot to catch up on - they not only chat about two episodes of Discovery ("Rubicon" and "The Galactic Barrier"), but also touch on the season 2 premiere of Picard ("The Star Gazer")! When it comes to Discovery, we celebrate some of the finer moments that explore the character relationships, but also bemoan how the write...
070 - The One With High Stakes Poker 18.02.2022 1:04:49
After a five-week hiatus, Discovery is back! While it's great to be back in adult Star Trek land, it was also nice to have a break from HEATED ARGUMENTS, which Mike and Johnson definitely have about "All In!" Listen as we strongly disagree about Discovery's overall trajectory for the second half of Season 4, while reflecting on some of LGBTQ-affirming moments that the show offers us. Johnson is al...
068 - The One Where The Whole Season is Coming Together! 04.02.2022 1:01:37
This week, we're chatting about the penultimate episode of the second quarter of Prodigy's first season - "A Moral Star Part 1"! While not necessarily the biggest cliffhanger, Mike and Johnson discuss how well this entire first season has meshed, and how this episode draws really well from all the episodes that came previously. But when will all our questions be answered!? Hopefully we don't have...
067 - The One Where Rok-Tahk Gets Three PhDs 31.01.2022 1:21:51
And the countdown to the end of Prodigy's second episode chunk has begun! Before we get into breaking down "Time Amok," we talk a bit of Star Trek news - including the latest Picard trailer, which has both Mike and Johnson just a bit more excited for the new season. We then get into Prodigy, which gives us an episode that has some great moments and morality lessons - hooray for Rok-Tahk saving the...
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