Deconstructor of Fun
Deconstructor of Fun
Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis. Hosts:Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/Jen Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoe
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Oct 12, 2026
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Episodes
Masters of Publishing 4: Secrets to Winning Big with Game Monetization! 03.11.2025 23:13
Monetization in hybridcasual is a balancing act: ads for early players, IAP for the committed ones. Maayan Eshkol dives into player segmentation, the real role of a game economist, and why monetization has to be part of the design loop from day one.👉 Learn how to integrate ads and IAP without sacrificing retention.
310. Pim De Witte on Turning Down $500 Million from OpenAI... Then Raising $134M. 31.10.2025 1:03:46
Pim De Witte, founder of General Intuition and Medal.tv, turned down a deal reportedly worth $500 million from OpenAI, and instead raised $134 million to build an AI lab rooted in games, not words. In this conversation, Michail Katkoff (Deconstructor of Fun) dives deep into:1) How world models could replace game engines2) Why games are the best simulation layer for developing intelligence3) What “...
TWIG #355 Apple’s $2B Problem, Halo’s PlayStation Leap, and EA’s Reality Check 30.10.2025 1:08:40
We unpack Apple’s $2B legal battle, Halo’s surprise move to PlayStation, and EA’s latest earnings reality check, alongside Amazon Game Studios’ restructuring, AI’s growing impact on gaming investments, and a one-year look back at Pokémon TCG Pocket. From corporate chaos to console crossovers, it’s a packed week of insights, strategy, and sharp takes on the business of games.00:00 Welcome 03:09 Fam...
Masters of Publishing 3: What Makes Game Go Viral in 2026? 29.10.2025 38:14
Great creatives don’t guarantee great traffic. Karen Levy unpacks how to scale UA with structured testing, controlled volume, and ruthless iteration. We explore the rise of AI-driven pipelines, why UGC-style ads dominate TikTok and Reels, and why authenticity outperforms glossy fakes. 👉 https://supersonic.com/
Masters of Publishing 2: 3 Signs Your Game Will Be a Smash! 28.10.2025 16:35
What makes a hybridcasual hit? Guy Agiv explains how to design a core loop that hooks instantly but also unfolds depth over time. We cover the milestones from prototype to scale, how publishers and developers shift roles across the journey, and why “simplicity beats complexity” when it comes to retention.👉 Discover why elegant design—not clutter—is the secret to replayability.
Masters of Publishing 1: Secrets to Getting Signed by a Publisher 28.10.2025 37:56
Hybridcasual isn’t just “hypercasual with IAP.” Igor Beraslavski (GM at Supersonic) breaks down how publishing has evolved from testing prototypes to becoming a full-stack partner in design, monetization, and live ops. We discuss what publishers look for, how to spot market trends before the herd, and why most me-too products never scale.👉 Learn how to build lasting partnerships and survive in th...
309. Ex-Take-Two CEO on the Future of Games and the Intersection of AI and Creativity 27.10.2025 1:16:58
Ben Feder has done it all: CEO of Take-Two Interactive during the GTA and Red Dead years, President of Tencent’s International Partnerships, and board member at Epic Games and Bad Robot. Now he’s turned investor, running Tirta Ventures , a fund at the intersection of AI and gaming . In this conversation, Ben and Michail Katkoff explore what makes a great founder, why “operational VC” is a myth, an...
TWIG #354 Google's New Payment-Link Era and Rovio's End of an Era 23.10.2025 59:39
Jen Donahoe makes her triumphant return. She's joined by Eric Kress and special guest Stan Kwon from BetaHat. We dig into: Battlefield 6 corrections, marketing takeaways Android’s new payment-link era Unity’s cross-platform payments what General Intuition’s $134 M seed means for spatial reasoning and game data Rovio’s restructuring Football Manager deal with FIFA 00:00 Welcome 03:12 Jen's...
308. The 8 Trends That Will Redefine Gaming in Asia (and Beyond) 20.10.2025 1:15:38
Mishka Katkoff is joined by Daniel Ahmad (Director of Research & Insights, Niko Partners) and Lisa Hanson (CEO & Founder, Niko Partners) for a deep dive into the latest trends and insights from the Asian, MENA, and Indian gaming markets. We cover regulatory changes in China, the rise of India as a gaming powerhouse, the evolving MENA landscape, and much more. If you want to stay ahead in t...
TWIG #353 Netflix Goes Couch Co-op, PlayStation 6’s AI Ambitions, Supercell’s Open Letter 16.10.2025 59:31
Supercell’s CEO releases a rare open letter calling for more industry collaboration, while Ubisoft’s nepotism controversy reignites debates around leadership culture. Netflix Games kicks off its Battle for the Living Room with a push into Smart TV party games, and early buzz around PlayStation 6 points to an AI-driven leap in graphics and efficiency. Meanwhile, Battlefield’s launch performance goe...
TWIG #352 EU Regulations, Epic Shops, and the AI Slop Machine Is this goof? 09.10.2025 1:01:56
This week in games: Ilke’s open letter to the EU stirs the industry pot, AppLovin faces an SEC probe, and Epic drops its new Web Shops like it’s 2012 all over again. Ubisoft’s management drama continues, Istanbul’s gaming boom is no joke, and we wrap with a spicy take on the new wave of AI business slop. 00:00 Welcome 01:00 Intro & Shills 07:58 Ilke's Open Letter on EU Regulations 21:38 AppLov...
307. How Balatro Became a 7-Million-Copy Indie Hit | Harvey Elliott, CEO of Playstack 06.10.2025 1:14:22
A one-person poker roguelike sold seven million copies and outperformed studios with hundred-million-dollar budgets. In this episode, Playstack CEO Harvey Elliott joins Michail Katkoff to break down how they discovered Balatro, what makes a modern indie publisher truly valuable, and why the next wave of hits will come from focus—not funding. 02:07 Understanding Bellatro's Success: Metrics and Enga...
TWIG #351 EA Acquisition Analysis That Will Shock You 03.10.2025 1:00:25
A new guest host, Josh Chandley, is stepping into the arena as we dig into Microsoft’s latest controversial moves and what they signal for the company’s long-term gaming strategy. Then, we unpack the historic $55B acquisition of EA by Saudi Arabia, the largest leveraged buyout in gaming history. What does this mean for EA, for the industry, and for the shrinking pool of public gaming companies? Fi...
TWIG #350 Supercell Leaks! Staff Reveal What’s Really Happening 25.09.2025 1:03:32
No Jen this week — just the boys. Phil loses it on Supercell and Google Play, we wade into the “brain rot” panic, and Simon Hay somehow still gets a shoutout. From Newzoo’s latest report to Supercell’s IPO pipe dreams, Discord going offline, Xbox hiking prices, and Epic trying to AI their way out of irrelevance…Chapters00:00 Introduction00:27 Jen's Neuralink Update00:41 Phil's Rant on Supe...
306. Are We at Peak Gaming? Seven Questions Shaping the Future of Games with Newzoo's Emmanuel Rosier 23.09.2025 1:09:42
Mobile gaming is slowing down, and the question isn’t if, but who still wins. www.newzoo.com/resources/trend-reports/newzoo-global-games-market-report-2025 In this conversation, Michail Katkoff and Emmanuel Rosier from Newzoo break down Newzoo’s latest forecast, projecting the industry to hit $103B in 2025 with growth slipping below 3%. The duo explores what this slowdown means for developers, pla...
TWIG #349 The Conspiracy Behind Apple's New Gaming App and a Plea to Supercell 19.09.2025 1:02:14
The TWIG crew dives into Unity’s latest missteps and what they signal for the future of game development, breaks down Discord’s push toward a blockbuster IPO, and unpacks how Nintendo’s big announcements could reshape the company’s next chapter. We also examine TikTok’s potential U.S. acquisition, Apple’s quiet but bold moves to redefine its gaming app strategy, the explosive rise of AI-driven app...
305. Why Adding Brands to Games Is So Hard with Bastian Bergmann 15.09.2025 1:02:34
What really happens when brands collide with games? Mishka Katkoff sits down with Bastian Bergmann, COO of Solsten, to break down why gaming is the most transformative medium of our time, how consumer psychology shapes player engagement, and why authenticity in games runs circles around social media. 00:20 The Power of Reading and Writing 01:12 Video Games as a Medium for Transformation 02:57 Pare...
TWIG #348 Roblox’s Big Bet, Blizzard's Mobile Chaos & Destiny Rising’s Flop 11.09.2025 1:04:44
From Roblox’s RDC bombshells to Destiny Rising’s flop, this week’s DoF crew breaks down the biggest shifts in gaming. We get into NetEase’s bets, China’s growing power, and why analytics from Newzoo’s 2025 report matter more than ever. Plus: Blizzard’s messy leadership shakeups, Roblox’s new monetization tricks, Xbox’s subscription struggles, and the hype around Hollow Knight: Silksong. Oh, and ye...
Inside RDC 2025: How Roblox Is Courting Pro Developer 10.09.2025 56:04
Jen Donahoe is joined by Joe Ferencz (GameFam) and Stephen Dypiangco (Max Power Gaming) to break down the biggest takeaways from Roblox Developer Conference (RDC) 2025. The crew digs into Roblox’s massive milestone of 112M DAUs, the 8.5% bump in the developer exchange rate to lure in more professional talent, and the new “ad flywheel” that streamlines campaigns while adding rewarded video into the...
304. The Founder’s Dilemma: Equity vs. User Acquisition Financing 08.09.2025 1:13:59
Mishka Katkoff sits down with Pranav Singhvi (General Catalyst, Customer Value Fund) and Joe Wadakethalakal (PVX Partners) to unpack the rise of UA financing, a new capital instrument that lets gaming and app companies scale user acquisition without giving up massive chunks of equity. We break down: 1. Why traditional VC or debt financing is often a poor fit for customer acquisition. 2. The origin...
TWIG #347 Call of Duty Movie, De-Monetization of Real-Money Gaming and Google's New Court Case 05.09.2025 1:07:52
This week, we cover Google’s latest courtroom headaches, the evolution of KPIs in gaming analytics, and the incoming Call of Duty live-action movie. We unpack Rec Room’s layoffs, compare Roblox vs Rec Room head-to-head, and dig into Microsoft’s IP bets from Perfect Dark to Halo. Plus, we debate Star Wars: The Old Republic, break down Roblox’s latest monetization trends, and ask what the rise of re...
303. Why Scandinavia Makes You So Happy? And Why We Chose To Leave. 01.09.2025 1:13:52
Phillip Black and Michail Katkoff break down why they left the Nordics, trading modesty-maxxing for Mediterranean chaos and a bit more sun. The two dive into the quiet conservatism baked into Scandinavian life, the erosion of hunger that comes with too much comfort, and the calculus behind moving to Cyprus and Greece. 00:00 The Conservative Psyop of Scandinavia 04:31 Cultural Reflections and Perso...
TWIG #346: EU Wants to Ban Free-to-Play, Supercell Introduces a New Boss 28.08.2025 1:05:41
TWIG crew dives into Gamescom chaos, funding trends, and post-Ibiza IV drips. From Supercell’s leadership addition, to IP-powered collabs (Raid x TMNT) and the EU’s regulatory squeeze on F2P, this episode cuts through the noise with sharp insights, hard takes, and a few too-real laughs. 02:07 Gamescom Highlights and Industry News 02:50 PlayStation Portal and American Football 06:45 DOF Talent Netw...
302. Call of Duty vs Battlefield: Ex-DICE, Bungie & Activision Experts Unpack It All 27.08.2025 1:24:02
This one’s for the shooter heads. Host Phil Black (ex-DICE) is joined by Chris Sides (ex-Bungie) and longtime strategist Chris Anjos (ex-Activision) to dig into the decade-long arms race between Battlefield and Call of Duty. The muzzles are off. Chapters: 02:01 Meet the Experts 03:54 Historical Context: Battlefield and Call of Duty Sales 13:04 Battlefield’s Comeback: Beta Impressions 16:06 Gamepla...
301. Duolingo, Tinder, DraftKings: How Top Apps Have Been Gamified 25.08.2025 59:06
We dive into Duolingo’s ruthless gamification, how BeReal is evolving beyond its viral gimmick, why Tinder is betting big on live events, the surprising social features inside DraftKings, and the stickiness of Crypto.com’s engagement loops. Each case study is a window into how apps are blurring the line between entertainment, habit, and monetization. Guest: Kalle Heikkinen, Lead Analyst at App Ref...
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