Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie
Debunking Economics - the podcast
Economist Steve Keen talks to Phil Dobbie about the failings of the neoclassical economics and how it reflects on society. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jul 7, 2026
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The impact of AI – good or bad for the economy? 10.02.2020 31:14
Artificial intelligence is everywhere it seems, except perhaps in parliament and in quite a few newspapers. But what does it mean for the future of work. Conventional economists would argue that people freed from their jobs will be able to pursue other productive outputs, helping to grow the economy still further. Phil Dobbie asks Prof Steve Keen whether that’s likely to happen Or are we facing th...
Does fiscal stimulus work? What about Friedman’s argument of nominal value? 03.02.2020 33:20
Today Phil Dobbie talks to Prof Steve Keen about Milton Friedman’s concept of nominal value ,and how this runs counter to the argument that governments can create money to give the economy a sugar hit. The theory is, we’ll realise that the extra helicopter money has devalued the currency so, after an initial burst of growth, we’ll realise that we’re actually no better off. So where does this theor...
Davos does diddly-squat 28.01.2020 37:54
The world leaders met at Davos and discussed climate change. Greta Thunberg told them they weren’t doing enough, even though the President of the United States promised to plant some more trees and warned against the doomsayers with their predictions of the apocalypse. So, will there be an apocalypse. Phil Dobbie asks Prof Steve Keen, arguing that he could be seen as one of the lefty Marxists who...
Is the share market killing innovation? 20.01.2020 41:35
US equities, in fact shares around the world, seem to be running away with themselves right now. Is this healthy? And who wins, other than the investors who sell before the price tops out? This week Phil Dobbie talks to Prof Steve Keen about the relationship between shareholder value and the growth and productivity of the company’s shareholders are buying in to. Is part of the problem that the sys...
Does the UK economy need the royals? 15.01.2020 26:57
Who’d have thought it – Steve Keen and Phil Dobbie turn out to be a couple of royalists. As Harry and Megan prepare to chuff off to Canada, and royal-watchers have been decrying the whole thing as one massive constitutional crisis, we use it all as an opportunity to ask whether the royal family is worth keeping at all. The expectation was that one or other of our podcasters would have it in for th...
Steve Keen’s Predictions for 2020 06.01.2020 34:36
2019 was quite a year. We had the ongoing Brexit saga, the US China trade war, Europe close to recession and a big housing downturn in Australia. It was capped off with some of the worst bushfires ever seen. Phil Dobbie asks Prof Steve what this year has in store for us? if austerity has gone will we see a bright future for Britain, or will it be dragged down by Brexit? Is this the year that Donal...
Five Big Myths of Classical Economics 23.12.2019 38:47
It’s taken us a few years to tackle the obvious topic for the Debunking Economics podcast, what are the biggest failings of neoclassical economics. Prof Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that it starts on page one of rudimentary economics textbooks, which the idea of the demand curve. Having debunked that, he moves on to the capital market line, used to determine investment decisions. Then it’s th...
The Opportunity Cost Fallacy 16.12.2019 27:24
It’s one of the basic constructs of classical economics – the concept of the opportunity cost. Steve Keen admits it works at the individual level – you are listening to this podcast at the expense of doing something else, for example. But does the theory work when applied to broader economic thinking? No, says Steve – it’s a case of false equivalences, that renders it meaningless. Does that mean i...
Business cycles – what causes them? 11.12.2019 32:59
In this edition of the Debunking Economics Podcast Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen discuss business cycles. What causes them and how can we reduce their impact. As Steve explains, neo-classical economics teaches us that the turns in a cycle are caused by exogenous shocks when, in reality, it is the economies own internal cycle that is the root cause. Listen in to find out why business cycles really occ...
Economic Growth – it’s complicated 03.12.2019 31:22
Economists predict GDP growth by looking at business investment, government and consumer spending, plus the net level of exports. In the long term, of course, growth only comes from the products and services you sell and for that the Atlas of Economic Complexity, developed by Harvard University, is a powerful tool. It demonstrates how growth comes to countries with a highly complex mix of products...
Should we do more to price-in externalities? 24.11.2019 29:10
Economists love the concept of externalities - factors that cost you or benefit you, for which you made no contribution, or for which you bare no blame. In this week’s podcast Phil Dobbie describe show his new neighbour said he hopes he does his house up, because gentrification benefits everyone in the street because everyone’s house goes up in value. He asks Steve Keen whether, if that’s the case...
Free broadband – Corbyn’s bad connection 18.11.2019 42:15
Jeremy Corbyn pledged over the weekend that, if he was to become Prime Minister, he would deliver free high-speed full-fibre broadband to everyone by 2030. To do it he would renationalise Open Reach, the network arm of BT. Is any of this a good idea? Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen whether the government can deliver a solution any faster than the private sector. Surely subsidies are a better approach....
What can we do about pay gaps? 12.11.2019 39:43
For all the best efforts we have seen over recent years, the gender pay gap in most countries remains an issue. There are lots of other factors determining how much you get paid, of course – your age, your education, where you live. Can these gaps ever be resolved? Probably not, says Steve Keen, who says the issue is one of hierarchy. Society needs hierarchy to organise itself, so we will always s...
Brexit - a good idea or not? 03.11.2019 41:32
Steve Keen and Phil Dobbie had very different ideas about Brexit a few years ago. Now they both agree it’s a vote that should never have happened? So, is it the impact of tariffs?? Is it the impact on foreign investment? Is it impacts on the supply chain? No, many of those things, Steve believes, will be overcome. It’s the one unsurmountable thing that was never discussed ahead of the vote – the o...
Making an MMT Green New Deal Global 27.10.2019 33:08
One of the constraints of MMT is that to create more government money you need to have a sovereign currency. That rules out countries in the Eurozone and developing nations heavily reliant on the US dollar. Yet the idea of a Green New Deal is to resolve the issue of climate change using MMT. How can you pursue a global issue with a protocol that only applies in certain parts of the world? And how...
Can MMT pay for a Green New Deal? 21.10.2019 34:00
Larry Randall Wray has suggested Modern Monetary Theory should be applied to create a Green New Deal. This week and next, Phil Dobbie talks to Prof Steve Keen about the idea of creating government money to tackle the climate emergency. Would it work? Is there a danger that public sector spending will crowd out private investment in innovative approaches to renewable energy? And what can we learn f...
Will Trump ever win his trade war? 12.10.2019 34:26
There’s a glimmer of hope that the US China trade war will ease a little. In other words, it won’t get worse. But even so, the tariffs and other conditions are being felt in both countries. Steve Keen, who is not a fan of global trade, admits this one is having a destructive effect on the global economy. So how will it end? Could Trump achieve his aim of drawing manufacturing back to the United St...
Can We Afford McDonnell’s Four Day Week? 07.10.2019 30:54
At the Labour party conference recently, UK Shadow Chancellor outlined the policy aim of reducing the working week to 32 hours, with no loss in pay. It’s been lambasted by many, who see it as a way of reducing productivity and costing jobs as businesses fail against overseas competitors with a lower cost base. In this week’s podcast, Prof Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that the protagonists have got...
Can MMT work in countries with a trade deficit? 30.09.2019 37:52
Modern monetary theory tells us that we shouldn’t worry about government debt – that governments can create money to spend to projects that will create full employment. Even if that is the case, what happens when the money you need isn’t in your currency? It’s a question Phil Dobbie puts to Prof Steve Keen in this week’s Debunking Economics podcast. You can’t create foreign currency, but you might...
The insignificance of gold 23.09.2019 30:19
There were times when men would leave their families to head for the hills and pan for gold. There were times when the value of currencies was tied to gold. These days, there aren’t so many discoveries and money is no long tied to the gold standard. Phil Dobbie asks Prof Steve Keen what is the use of gold today, and why do investors rush to it in times of uncertainty. And if it has nothing to do w...
The false economies of private health 16.09.2019 29:54
According to the World Health Organisation, Antibiotic resistance is rising to dangerously high levels in all parts of the world. New resistance mechanisms are emerging and spreading globally, threatening our ability to treat common infectious diseases. Sadly, the ROI of antibiotic research is now too low for most pharmaceutical companies to consider. In this week’s free edition of the Debunking E...
Should we have tighter controls on money supply? 09.09.2019 40:45
Regular listeners will know that most money in circulation is created, bot by central banks, but by commercial banks when they issue loans. In this week’s podcast Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen how fundamental this is to the slow growth, low interest economy the world has found itself in. Isn’t there a danger that banks will limit the supply when times are bad when, in fact, what the economy needs at...
Preparing for an entrepreneurial Britain 02.09.2019 35:20
Britain gave us the steam engine and so many other inventions. But what has it done lately. Not a lot. Is it because we have beenhamstrung by Brussels, and we'll be free to goback to those halycon days after Brexit. We need entrepreneurship and innovation, says Steve - but a lot of that has to come from the government sector. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Are we on the verge of a global recession? 27.08.2019 37:51
The markets are concerned that we are on the verge of a global recession. How do they know? Not from reading tea-leaves but by studying yield curves. An inverted yield curve has signalled every recession since the 1980s. So, Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen, does that mean next year is going to be 2008 all over again. In short, no is the answer. 2008 was caused by a collapse in credit-based demand. We’...
What went wrong at Bretton Woods. Time for another meeting? 19.08.2019 34:36
A little over 75 years ago World powers signed the Bretton Woods agreement, that saw the US dollar as the planet’s reserve currency, tied to reserves of Gold. In this week’s podcast Phil Dobbie talks to Prof Steve Keen about how the agreement missed the opportunity to create a separate reserve currency, the approach preferred by John Maynard Keynes. They also discuss why the link to Gold reserves...
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