Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie

Debunking Economics - the podcast

Economist Steve Keen talks to Phil Dobbie about the failings of the neoclassical economics and how it reflects on society. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Debt, loans and investments deciphered 10.02.2022

Last year Andrew Bailey, the Bank of England Governor, spoke optimistically about how the UK economy would bounce back because so many people had stashed away money in their savings accounts. But, at the same time, we also saw rising levels of debt. This week, Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen how you can have rising savings and debt at the same time. If you have spare cash sitting in your bank account,...

How to burst the housing bubble 01.02.2022

House prices in Australia continue to rise. According to Domain’s House Price Index, prices in Sydney have risen by a third in the last year, to a median value of $1.6 million. Housing affordability has never been a bigger issue, but how do you bring prices down when two thirds of the population are owner occupiers. That’s a question Phil Dobbie puts to Steve Keen, as he explains his two-pronged a...

Who controls interest? 24.01.2022

Central banks control the interest rate through the decisions of their various monetary committees. Almost all of them are set to raise rates multiple times this year. But what do they basis this decision on? These days it is related to the rate of inflation, but to what extent is that driven by the amount of money in circulation. Can the central bank control both? And what about the velocity of m...

What’s driving the Great Resignation? 09.01.2022

One of the surprises as we emerge from the worst of COVID (hopefully) is what’s being called the Great Resignation. Even though employment levels in most countries remain below pre-pandemic levels, that’s not stopping those who hung onto their jobs through the crisis from leaving in their droves. So, what’s driving this trend. Prof Steve Keen suggests it’s a “kick in the balls to the gig...

The Perils of Government Subsidies 04.01.2022

Even the most ardent supporters of small government will agree there are times when governments need to offer subsidies to companies and industries. Paying for the furloughing of workers during the pandemic was one unavoidable example. But are their times when subsidies can distort the economy in unforeseen ways. The support for the food industry that promotes livestock over plant-based diets is a...

Where’s all the money coming from? 18.12.2021

Around the world we have seen the size of the money supply increasing considerably over recent decades, but none more so than the last couple of years, as governments spend like crazy to support people during lockdowns and illness. In the UK the amount of money in circulation has increased by almost £200 billion. Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen if there are consequences of growing the monetary base so...

Not all contrarians are the same 03.12.2021

There are a lot of people questioning the direction of conventional economics, yet, even after the biggest spending splurges ever made by governments outside wartime, there is still a lot of talk about fiscal conservatism, paying back the debt and balancing the budget. But contrarian voices question whether that is the best way forward, whilst others are seeing an end to fiat money and are buying...

Surviving with a negative trade balance 28.11.2021

Is a negative trade balance such a bad thing? Some countries with a bit deficit seem to be doing okay, like American, even the UK to an extent, whereas others, like Japan have a trade surplus and a economy on the road to nowhere. This week Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen discuss how important is a trade balance for the overall good of an economy. And what about jobs? Donald Trump was concerned his trad...

Too much information 20.11.2021

Economics works so well because we al have perfect information about everything, all the time. Right? We choose products at the best price because we know all about all products and their prices, so we can make the best choice. That means we can all pursue our own self-interests to provide the most efficient outcome for any situation. Huh? This week Phil Dobbie talks to Steve Keen about the myth o...

Accumulating someone else‘s wealth 10.11.2021

If capitalism is driving everyone to make a profit – and we all save a bit of that profit and therefore accumulate more wealth, does that mean everyone can be better off, if we all run profitable businesses? Does that mean Boris Johnson’s idea of levelling up is a good one? Or is there a constraint on how much wealth there is. Today on the Debunking Economics podcast Steve Keen explains to Phil Do...

Boris misunderstood Pareto 03.11.2021

During his Tory Party conference speech, Boris Johnson said that he remembers something about Wilfredo Pareto, in the “cobwedded attic of (his) memories”. In his mind, Pareto was all about levelling up – that you can improve the lot of some of society without anyone else losing out. But Pareto is most famous for the 80:20 rule – at the time he observed that 80 percent of land in Italy was own...

Currency Wars 26.10.2021

Donald Trump believed that China was manipulating its currency to get an unfair advantage against the US. This week Professor Steve Keen explains why manipulating currencies isn’t that easy – and the US will always be at a disadvantage when it comes to competing for international trade. He talks with Phil Dobbie about why countries moved to floating exchange rates, and how the system would ha...

The energy crunch 18.10.2021

The world’s leaders are getting together in the UK at the end of this month to discuss how to tackle climate change. Meanwhile, fuel prices are rising higher and higher, and increasing talk of inflation. Prices are rising because, quite simply, demand is rising but supply is still constrained. Gas supplies in Europe are dependent on Russia and renewable energy has been held back by low winds and o...

Cashed up and nowhere to go 08.10.2021

Governments have been spending their way through the pandemic, so what happens to that money? Regular listeners will understand how this spending gets added to the money supply, but then what? Steve Keen looks at the impact of government spending on the private sector, and Phil Dobbie asks if this is a prime example of modern monetary theory in action? Could the COVID years be used as the case stu...

Steve for the NSW Senate 05.10.2021

Steve Keen is a man of many surprises. His latest is that he is going to stand for the Senate in New South Wales. He’s packing his bags and heading back to Australia, for an election that will be held early next year. He’ll be one of six senate candidates in NSW for the New Liberals. So, is this a good move? From an academic to a politician, from developing and challenging theories to creating sou...

Inflation, the next pandemic? 26.09.2021

COVID is causing supply disruptions the world over, evidenced by disruptions to supply chains and rising producer prices and consumer prices. Central banks are quick to suggest this is a temporary measure, and inflation will start to fall as quickly as it rose. And yet, they are also making noises about raising interest rates, as a way of controlling inflation. Last week the Bank of England was hi...

Has QE become MMT by another name? 17.09.2021

Central banks around the world are at different stages of how they supposedly deal with the COVId-19 crisis. Most are implementing some form of QE, but many are now reducing their purchases, and some are even lifting interest rates. How can they all have a different monetary approach to dealing with the same crisis? And can any claim to have been operating independently, buying up the increasing a...

Boris’ Healthcare Reform is Grossly Unjust and Economically Damaging 11.09.2021

Whilst the UK still lumbers under high COVID infection rates, and the economic recovery stalls, with GDP growth now at a trickle, the government wants to raise taxes. Even if you believed it was a fair tax, is next April – when the rise kicks in – the time to be taking spending money out of people’s pockets. But, as Phil Dobbie discusses with Prof Steve Keen, this is far from a fair tax. Those ear...

What’s down the China road? 05.09.2021

There’s a lot happening with China right now. First, they are extending their social and commercial controls, which is adding uncertainty to foreign investors looking to get involved with Chinese firms. Maybe the Communist Party likes it that way. There’s also the risk that a more cocooned China could play a stronger military role in the Asia Pacific region. Then there’s the ever-expanding de...

The economics of scarce resources 29.08.2021

Following on from a fortnight ago, what happens as resources start to become scarce? We’re already seeing the short-term impact of supply chain disruption because of COVID, but what when this becomes more common, and we have to get used to the idea of not always getting what we want? Prof Steve Keen suggests that rationing of goods might be the only way forward, but Phil Dobbie asks whether a shif...

The economics of education 19.08.2021

More students than ever are off to university next month because of the A level grade inflation, accentuated by teacher assessments replacing exam results because of COVID. How useful is it to society to have more and more people studying at university? Is it adding to the GDP of the country? In today’s podcast Steve Keen suggests that we are devaluing a university education, which helps nobody. H...

The mineral supply crisis that’s rarely talked about 12.08.2021

We’ve talked about the climate change crisis on the Debunking Economics podcast, but there’s a broader issue we all face, highlighted in the Club of Rome back in 1972. We are chewing up resources faster than they can be renewed or sourced. It’s not just oil, but iron ore for steel production and previous metals used in microprocessors. Simon Michaux, associate professor at the Geological Survey of...

The economy after the pandemic 05.08.2021

Many governments have done an excellent job at propping up businesses during the pandemic. For example, paying companies to furlough workers will, in theory, enable those businesses to quickly bounce back, with a workforce ready to go. But what if the pandemic drags on for years to come? Already governments are talking about how they will claw back the massive increase in government spending. And,...

Why no Marxist revolution? 30.07.2021

Karl Marx never advocated violent revolution, but he did expect that the power balance between capitalists and workers would change. On today’s podcast Steve Keen tells Phil Dobbie that Marx wrongly expected that profits would ultimately shrink, so workers would be fighting for a slice of a shrinking pie. That’s not happened. Perhaps the main reason we’ve avoided a violent revolution is because th...

Economics and thermodynamics 26.07.2021

Steve Keen has often said, the problem with economics in, it ignores thermodynamics. That’s not always been the case. Georgescu-Roegen, a Romanian economist, wrote The Entropy Law and the Economic Process in 1971, which embraced the orle of energy and waste in economics. But we’ve taken backward steps since then. This week Phil Dobbie asks Steve Keen to explain what thermodynamics is and why it is...

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