Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert
Customer Confidential: Untold Stories of Earned Growth
The Customer Confidential Podcast unlocks a world of unparalleled customer and employee loyalty insights. Host Rob Markey, a Net Promoter System pioneer, uses his deep expertise and empathetic approach to challenge conventional wisdom, peel back layers of typical advice, and expose the real stories of industry transformation. Take a deep dive into discussions on CX, customer journey, customer insights, Net Promoter Score, and more. Every episode is a master class in loyalty. Guests include CMOs, CXOs, and heroes of customer-centric transformation, along with thought leaders who inspire them. E...
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Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert
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Jun 18, 2026
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Ep. 64: How Bonobos designs a tailored shopping experience 17.12.2015 45:34
If you’re struggling to find pants that fit, the last place you probably turn is the Internet. But men's clothing retailer Bonobos is using customer service, feedback and design to challenge this assumption. On the latest episode, Bonobos Cofounder Andy Dunn shares his philosophy for creating memorable customer experiences both online and in stores.
Ep. 63: How text messages helped a phone retailer turn up feedback 10.12.2015 36:17
Mobile phone stores increasingly depend on loyalty economics to drive their businesses. As a result, every customer interaction in one of these stores is vital. It’s a chance to wow a customer with a great experience, or to frustrate them with long waiting times, pushy salespeople or poorly trained technicians. Yet store owners generally struggle to get enough customer feedback to know how their c...
Ep. 62: Lessons from great founder-led firms 03.12.2015 56:59
Why are so many of the global loyalty leaders run by their founders or their founders’ family members? What do they do that increases their ability to achieve and sustain customer loyalty? James Allen, head of Bain's Strategy practice, has studied successful founder-led companies in great detail. On the podcast, he discusses how companies can preserve what he calls the Founder’s Mentality while th...
Ep. 61: How Qualtrics stumbled on the Net Promoter System 24.11.2015 38:59
A few years ago, Qualtrics CEO Ryan Smith realized that there were 130,000 different versions of Net Promoter surveys in the survey company's system. The Net Promoter Score had become wildly popular among its customers, yet there was little consistency in its application. Ryan saw an opportunity to make it easier for Qualtrics customers to measure their Net Promoter Score. On the podcast, Ryan tal...
Ep. 60: At DonorsChoose, supplying transparency and integrity 19.11.2015 38:08
DonorsChoose founder Charles Best and CMO Katie Bisbee discuss how their nonprofit gives schoolchildren the supplies they need and donors the transparency they want. Learn more about this episode
Ep. 59: Shorts - Your best employees work for love, not money 12.11.2015 4:50
In this Net Promoter System Podcast short, Rob Markey explains why it's important to create conditions that will help employees succeed before connecting Net Promoter Scores to compensation. Learn more: Your best employees work for love, not money Converting loyalty into economic advantage
Ep. 58: At Safelite, training leaders to hit the gas on culture change 05.11.2015 29:22
In a previous episode of the Net Promoter System Podcast, we heard how Safelite applied the Net Promoter System and became a "people-powered" and "customer-driven" organization. It started with helping frontline workers change the game so they could build customer loyalty. In our latest discussion, CEO Tom Feeney and senior executives Natalie Crede and Renee Cacchillo explain why it's equally impo...
Ep. 57: Restaurants discover the special sauce of Net Promoter feedback 29.10.2015 40:25
Innovative restaurant companies such as Patxi's Pizza and Tomatina are putting a range of technologies to work to collect Net Promoter feedback from customers. One tool in particular, Thanx, offers restaurants a prepackaged rewards system and an easy way to gauge diner sentiment through a mobile app. Learn more: The economics of loyalty Closing the loop The infrastructure behind a Net Promoter Sys...
Ep. 56: Shorts - The benefits of a competitive benchmark Net Promoter Score 15.10.2015 4:09
Leading practitioners of the Net Promoter System seek feedback not only from their own customers but also from their competitors' customers. Competitive benchmark Net Promoter Scores provide an objective and fair basis for comparing your company's feedback to the feedback your competitors earn. Done right, they can provide the basis for goal setting and prioritization at the highest levels of a co...
Ep. 55: Rebuilding the LEGO Group by rediscovering customer centricity 08.10.2015 35:42
The LEGO Group nearly went bankrupt a decade ago. It's hard to imagine. The company's return to profitability came from refocusing on its core: the bricks and the people who love to build with them. Conny Kalcher, vice president of marketing and consumer experiences at the LEGO Group, discusses how the company introduced the Net Promoter System and started collecting regular feedback to learn what...
Ep. 54: Power to the customer at E.ON 01.10.2015 49:51
E.ON's Olivier Mourrieras, Rene Matthies and Guntram Wurzberg discuss how market shifts prompted the energy provider to change its approach to service (3:45), its use of internal NPS (17:00) and loyalty economics (34:20).
Ep. 53: Former Telstra CEO David Thodey's Net Promoter journey - Part 2 24.09.2015 31:17
In part two of our conversation with former Telstra CEO David Thodey, he discusses the benefits of regular team huddles (1:48), his approach to evaluating potential investments (10:40) and what he would do differently if he could (16:31).
Ep. 52: Former Telstra CEO David Thodey's Net Promoter journey - Part 1 17.09.2015 29:47
In the first of a two-part interview, former Telstra CEO David Thodey discusses his decision to put customers first at the Australian telco (2:50), the difference between satisfaction and advocacy (10:50), and his approach to balancing investor expectations (25:50).
Ep. 51: Five keys to successful innovation 10.09.2015 47:44
Darrell Rigby, head of Bain's Global Innovation practice, discusses what it takes to turn a great idea into an innovation (2:30), the "BothBrain" innovation concept (4:25) and the dangers of multitasking (35:00).
Ep. 50: Looking back on 50 episodes 20.08.2015 28:26
In honor of the podcast's 50th episode, Rob Markey highlights some of his favorite stories and lessons from podcast guests, including former Disney executive Lee Cockerell (2:05), hotelier Horst Schulze (9:53) and JetBlue's Bonny Simi (19:49).
Ep. 49: Creating a market of trust and delight at eBay 13.08.2015 48:32
Joshua Rossman, who leads loyalty efforts at eBay, discusses the early challenges the company faced as it adopted the Net Promoter System (2:30), the importance of building trust (13:20) and what it takes to become customer-centric (38:45).
Ep. 48: At OpenTable, making dining more satisfying 06.08.2015 39:01
Leela Srinivasan of restaurant reservation service OpenTable discusses the challenges of running a restaurant (8:10), shares key lessons from Net Promoter feedback (12:20) and talks about the company's mobile payment app (23:21).
Ep. 47: The short meeting that leads to big results 23.07.2015 41:17
Bain's Fred Reichheld returns to the podcast to share his early experiences with team huddles (1:50), the ways that companies use them to connect employees to the larger business mission (7:45), and tips to make them more effective (31:55).
Ep. 46: The wisdom of Jeanne Bliss 09.07.2015 37:52
Jeanne Bliss, who pioneered the role of chief customer officer, discusses the dangers of reactionary behavior (3:00), the traits of an effective chief customer officer (15:30) and the companies she admires (23:50).
Ep. 45: Taking the turbulence out of travel at JetBlue 02.07.2015 29:06
Bonny Simi, vice president of talent at JetBlue, shares the airline's approach to inspiring employees (8:00), encouraging teamwork (10:45) and creating a culture that puts customers first (23:05).
Ep. 44: Nailing Net Promoter at Habitat for Humanity 25.06.2015 46:54
Ann Goggins Gregory and Mark Andrews of Habitat for Humanity discuss their efforts to pilot the Net Promoter System with volunteers (9:27), the surprising clarity that open-ended questions can provide (16:00) and the complexities that come with running a major nonprofit (30:00).
Ep. 43: How Birchbox unwraps customer data to open up delight 18.06.2015 36:55
Birchbox cofounder Hayley Barna discusses how the beauty e-commerce company got its start (3:02), how it rigorously tracks customer buying behavior (14:36) and its decision to open physical stores (27:46).
Ep. 42: Answering the call for culture change at a telecom giant 11.06.2015 39:19
Telecom executive John Dwyer discusses the benefits of the Net Promoter System's outer loop process (13:45), the company's approach to delighting mobile customers (16:10) and its strategies for supporting frontline employees (27:09).
Ep. 41: At Disney, the show must go on 21.05.2015 54:53
Former Disney executive Lee Cockerell shares what it takes to maintain high-quality service at the company's theme parks and resorts (4:52), anticipate customers' needs (16:41) and spread that signature Disney magic (26:52).
Ep. 40: Taking the temperature of temps 14.05.2015 55:13
Alan Balmer and Fernando Cadena of Elwood Staffing discuss how they use Net Promoter to improve conditions for employees in temporary placements (18:34), build lasting relationships (35:28) and improve the staffing experience for clients (42:43).
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