Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert
Customer Confidential: Untold Stories of Earned Growth
The Customer Confidential Podcast unlocks a world of unparalleled customer and employee loyalty insights. Host Rob Markey, a Net Promoter System pioneer, uses his deep expertise and empathetic approach to challenge conventional wisdom, peel back layers of typical advice, and expose the real stories of industry transformation. Take a deep dive into discussions on CX, customer journey, customer insights, Net Promoter Score, and more. Every episode is a master class in loyalty. Guests include CMOs, CXOs, and heroes of customer-centric transformation, along with thought leaders who inspire them. E...
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Rob Markey, Bain & Company partner and customer experience expert
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Jun 18, 2026
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Episodes
Ep. 213: Allison Hartsoe | Why Customer-Centric Isn't Enough: Measuring Customer Equity 30.03.2023 20:42
In this episode, guest Allison Hartsoe, managing director of customer and growth at EY and author of The Age of Customer Equity , and Rob Markey discuss calculating customer lifetime value, why understanding customer behavior generates more accurate revenue forecasts, and how to develop a high-quality approach to customer equity. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience...
Ep. 212: Stacy Sherman | Elevating the Empathy: How an Elevator Service Company Built a Customer-Centric Culture 02.03.2023 22:49
In this episode, guest Stacy Sherman, founder of Doing CX Right, and Rob Markey discuss the importance of understanding the customer's perspective when you're trying to transform the customer experience, managing high-stakes CX for an elevator and escalator business, and why companies should consider journey mapping as a strategic tool to address consumer pain points head-on. We'd love to hear fr...
Ep. 211: Peter Pizzi | From Insight to System to Sales Growth: Lessons from an NPS Veteran 16.02.2023 29:50
In this episode, guest Peter Pizzi, director of customer experience and insights at Analog Devices, and Rob Markey discuss how to focus an organization on customer feedback – based actions, the role of customer experience in tackling sales challenges, and how to make sure the improvements customers are asking for make their way onto product and functional leaders' agendas. We'd love to hear from...
Ep. 210: Andreas Heckmann | How a Software Giant Is Revolutionizing Customer Experience to Adapt to the New Frontier of Cloud Computing 02.02.2023 43:08
In this episode, guest Andreas Heckmann, executive vice president of product engineering and head of customer solution support and innovation at SAP, and Rob Markey discuss the past, present, and future of cloud innovation as it relates to machine learning, artificial intelligence, organizational and customer challenges and opportunities, and cost savings. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhan...
Ep. 209: Kentaro Kawamori | From Carbon Confusion to Climate Clarity: The New World of Carbon Accounting and Reporting 12.01.2023 38:57
In this episode, guest Kentaro Kawamori, CEO and cofounder of Persefoni Inc., and Rob Markey discuss the interconnection between Net Promoter Score and organizational sustainability. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/CCPodcastFeedback If you'd like to learn more about Kentaro, you can find him on Li...
Ep. 208: Jason Barro | NPS Prism: The Source for True, Deep NPS Insights 10.11.2022 49:01
In this episode, Jason Barro, Bain & Company partner, and Rob Markey discuss NPS Prism and how it's used across various industries to drive consumer sentiment. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/CCPodcastFeedback If you'd like to learn more about Jason Barro, you can find him on LinkedIn.
Ep. 207: Fred Reichheld | Refocusing NPS for Earned Growth 13.10.2022 41:43
In this episode, Bain Fellow Fred Reichheld and Rob Markey discuss how Earned Growth and operational indicators can provide both inspiration and learning to an organization. We also explore companies' most common Net Promoter Score mistakes, and we participate in a live audience Q&A. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener surv...
Ep. 206: Mike Salguero | A Rare Business Model, Well Done 29.09.2022 47:06
In this episode, Mike Salguero , founder and CEO of ButcherBox, and Rob Markey discuss how a purpose-driven, direct-to-consumer meat subscription service aims to improve people's health, mitigate environmental damage, and make farming more sustainable and ethical. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/C...
Ep. 205: Zack Anderson | Bringing the Elusive Promise of Personalization to Life 01.09.2022 47:28
In this episode, Zack Anderson , chief data and analytics officer at National Westminster Bank (NatWest), and Rob Markey discuss how garnering a deeper understanding of customers' perspectives improves a company's data analytics and why a more streamlined approach to extracting customer information improves client satisfaction. Zack also highlights his top strategies to ensure consumers remain res...
Ep. 204: Evan Siegel | Why Helping Banking Customers Change Their Mindsets Builds Lifelong Loyalty 18.08.2022 45:07
In this episode, Evan Siegel , vice president of financial services and business development at eGain, and Rob Markey discuss why customer-focused bankers need to learn how to listen to consumers' true financial needs and wants, and why empowering consumers to take charge of their financial health wins their long-term trust. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by pr...
Ep. 203: Bryan Rutberg | Loving Your Customers Means Keeping It Real 28.07.2022 38:45
In this episode, Bryan Rutberg , founder and principal of 3C Communications, shares how and when to advocate on behalf of the customers you serve, and Rob Markey discusses how enhancing relationships with customers and prioritizing frontline employees' learning opportunities builds rapport vs. merely building up scores. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providi...
Ep. 202: Carolyn Saunders | Customers Want to Be Heard: Can You Use Feedback to Build Relationships? 14.07.2022 38:25
In this episode, Carolyn Saunders , former senior vice president, Consumer & Small Business (Retail), International Banking, for Scotiabank and current Bain external advisor, and Rob Markey discuss how enhancing relationships with customers and prioritizing frontline employees' learning opportunities builds rapport vs. merely building up scores. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your pod...
Ep. 201: Nate Henderson | From Paper to Pixels: How 3-D Instructions Are Transforming Customer Experience 30.06.2022 41:21
In this episode, Nate Henderson , BILT's founder and CEO, and Rob Markey discuss how to make a great customer experience an empowering experience, how to raise Net Promoter Score℠, and how BILT leverages analytics to improve customer sentiment. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/CCPodcastFeedback If...
Ep. 200: Ilenia Vidili | Customer-centricity Can Make the World a Better Place 16.06.2022 36:06
In this episode, Ilenia Vidili , a customer-centricity adviser and author of Journey to Centricity , and Rob Markey discuss why connecting to customers means understanding what they value. When companies use their voice to stand up for something they truly believe in or to advance and improve society, customers notice. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providin...
Ep. 199: Jon Picoult | Great Customer Experience Begins with Knowing What Customers Value 26.05.2022 48:15
In this episode, Jon Picoult , founder and principal at Watermark Consulting, and author of From Impressed to Obsessed: 12 Principles for Turning Customers and Employees into Lifelong Fans, and Rob Markey discuss why creating fewer problems for consumers drives more value interactions and how to deliver a cost-effective experience customers value long term. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enha...
Ep. 198: Barbara Higgins | Lighting a Path to Success in Low-Engagement Industries 12.05.2022 42:03
In this episode, Barbara Higgins, former chief customer officer of Duke Energy, and Rob Markey discuss what customer loyalty in the utility industry looks like as well as Barbara's strategies and techniques to cultivate lasting trust. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/CCPodcastFeedback If you'd like...
Ep. 197: Jason Guardino | Compassion in Healthcare: Feeling Cared For Can Be as Important as Being "Cured" 28.04.2022 35:09
In this episode, Dr. Jason Guardino of The Permanente Medical Group and Rob Markey discuss how healthcare organizations like Jason's are helping physicians and care facilities create meaningful and valuable patient experiences that promote better care outcomes. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedback here in our listener survey. https://bit.ly/CCPo...
Ep. 196: Trier Bryant and Kim Scott | A Conversation About Bias: How Leaders Can Help Employees Become Bias Disruptors 07.04.2022 24:48
In the workplace, biased language and treatment can often slip by without consequence, leaving those discriminated against feeling powerless or unheard. But Just Work cofounders Trier Bryant and Kim Scott believe integrating bias disruptors in the workplace can help all who experience or observe bias speak up and address it in the moment. In this episode, Kim, Trier, and I discuss how bias disrupt...
Ep. 195: Trier Bryant and Kim Scott | A Conversation About Bias: How Leaders Can Make Employees and Customers Feel Safe and Heard 31.03.2022 16:33
Bias. We all have it. We form quick assessments of someone's character off of their appearance alone, for instance. But those quick assessments can undermine customer and workplace relationships. What if more people were aware when bias was creeping into their perspective? In this episode, Kim, Trier, and I discuss what a "just" work environment looks like—one in which bias, prejudice, and bullyin...
Ep. 194: Todd Yellin | From Red Envelopes to Red Carpets: Netflix's Todd Yellin Talks Innovation and Personalization 10.03.2022 30:34
Since its somewhat humble beginnings mailing DVDs back-and-forth with customers in red envelopes, Netflix has evolved into an iconic digital insurgent known not only for its seamless entertainment experience, but also for its award-winning studio and production output. In this episode, Todd Yellin, vice president of product at Netflix, shares his perspective on Netflix's history, a few of the com...
Ep. 193: Fred Reichheld | Customer Love: Go Big, or Go Home: Understanding the Power of "Big NPS" 10.02.2022 25:31
It seems obvious: When customers feel loved and appreciated by a company, they stay longer, buy more, and enthusiastically return. But how do you get boards and shareholders to abandon quick profits and invest in the long-term goal of customer satisfaction? In this episode of the podcast, Fred Reichheld, a Bain fellow, creator of the Net Promoter System, and author of the new book Winning on Purpo...
Ep. 192: Fred Reichheld | Customer Love: Not Always Easy, But Always Right 27.01.2022 31:52
"Love" isn't a word you often hear in business. It seems to run counter to the calculated numbers and tedious plans crafted in many boardrooms. But in his new book Winning on Purpose: The Unbeatable Strategy of Loving Customers , Fred Reichheld, a Bain fellow and creator of the Net Promoter system of management, makes it clear: Loving your customers is the key to continued success. We'd love to he...
Ep. 191 Darci Darnell | Ping-Pong Tables Don't Inspire Employees, Real Autonomy Does 13.01.2022 31:20
It's trendy right now for leadership teams to craft lofty statements of purpose. But Darci Darnell, a Bain partner and coauthor of the new book Winning on Purpose: The Unbeatable Strategy of Loving Customers , says the organizations that succeed in inspiring their teams with the company's sense of purpose don't just craft these mission statements, they help employees understand their role in these...
Ep. 190: Maureen Burns | In Business, Good Guys and Gals Really Do Finish First 16.12.2021 43:24
Despite the pressing challenge of digital native insurgents, incumbent companies have struggled to shift to a customer-centric strategy, fearing shrinking shareholder returns and being weighed down by operational hurdles. However, Maureen Burns, a Bain Partner and coauthor of the new book Winning on Purpose: The Unbeatable Strategy of Loving Customers , says there is no tradeoff between doing well...
Ep. 189: Fred Reichheld | Introducing: Winning on Purpose 02.12.2021 25:05
A central theme in Fred Reichheld's new book, Winning on Purpose: The Unbeatable Strategy of Loving Customers , is purpose. For Fred, a well-defined company purpose is the engine that drives success. But it's not enough. To succeed, an organization's No. 1 goal should always be to make customers' lives better. We'd love to hear from you. Help us enhance your podcast experience by providing feedbac...
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