Hosted by Ken Futernick
Courageous Conversations About Our Schools
Bringing people together for respectful conversations about today’s most contentious issues affecting our schools. A way forward in divided times.
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May 13, 2026
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Rich Harwood Rocks My World! (Ep. 29) 30.07.2024 51:18
Rich Harwood knows a thing or two about depolarizing communities. He’s been doing it—successfully—for over 30 years, which is why I wanted to probe his thinking about the widening divides and the worrisome rise of culture wars that are threatening our public schools. Let me simply say, Rich rocked my world! Despite the extensive reading I’ve done on the subject and the interviews I’ve conducted wi...
Middie Rising - A City Unites and Defuses a School Culture War (Ep. 1 of 3) 19.07.2024 21:58
This is the first of three episodes about the unusual steps school leaders in Middletown, Ohio took to defuse tensions over race issues and health policies. These tensions could have led to a full-blown culture war - the kind of knock-down, drag out clashes that have pitted educators, parents, and even students against one another in a growing number of school districts across the country. In th...
Middie Rising - A City Unites and Defuses a School Culture War (Ep. 2 of 3) 19.07.2024 26:20
In this second of three episodes about a culture war simmering in Middletown, Ohio, we learn how Superintendent Styles responds to allegations of racism and violations of students’ rights because of health mandates. Hint: He didn’t fight back. Instead, he listened to his critics. He then asked for help from the community’s “quiet majority,” a group he called “the Positive Gossipers,” and members...
Middie Rising - A City Unites and Defuses a School Culture War (Ep. 3 of 3) 19.07.2024 41:11
In the final episode of this series, several people reflect on the lessons learned from Middletown’s successful efforts to avoid a costly culture war and to unify around an inclusive vision of education that all of its students. In addition to Middletown’s community leaders who share their takeaways from this story, Amanda Ripley, an internationally recognized expert on conflict, provides powerful...
Bridging Youth Divides Through Morning Classroom Conversations (Ep. 25) 05.04.2024 33:37
This podcast usually focuses on how adults can have less contentious, more fruitful conversations about schools, but my two guests on this episode have plenty to say about the need to strengthen communication and relationships among young people . In fact, Nina Murphy and Kellie Dromboski (along with Maurice Elias) have written a book on the subject called, Morning Classroom Conversations. They sh...
Politics in the Classroom in these Divided Times? Now More Than Ever, says Educator Diana Hess (Ep. 24) 03.04.2024 32:16
It’s April 2024. Polarization in America is at an all-time high, and another highly contentious election season is fast approaching. Fears about teacher bias and the undue influence they might have over their students has raised suspicions among parents and has led several states to restrict what teachers can discuss with their students — like “divisive concepts” or subject matter that might cause...
A Conversation with Daniel Buck-Defender of the Education Culture Wars (Ep. 23) 23.03.2024 42:06
When Daniel Buck’s article, “In Defense of the Education Culture Wars,” appeared in my news feed, I thought, Is this guy kidding? Is he seriously arguing that the culture wars are a good thing for schools? Turns out he was, which made me think, I have to get this guy on my show . Buck agreed to join me, and what you’ll hear in this conversation is him explaining his thesis, my making sure I unde...
Do Discomfort, Anguish, and Divisive Concepts Belong in the Classroom? A Conversation about Free Speech in Public Schools (Ep. 22) 06.03.2024 51:34
Since 2020, nearly 20 states have passed legislation prohibiting public school educators from teaching “divisive concepts” or any content that might cause students to feel “discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress” because of their race or sex. Florida and several other states have also adopted new policies that ban instruction about gender and sexual identity, and te...
When Homeschooling Fails Should the Government Step In? (Ep. 21) 22.12.2023 46:43
According to a recent Washington Post article , homeschooling is the fastest growing form of education in America. As many as 2.7 million students are currently being homeschooled. One of my guests, Heidi Sampson, is a veteran homeschooling parent from Maine and a four-term Republican legislator. She concedes that homeschooling is not for everyone but says, “The overwhelming evidence nationally fo...
A Courageous Conversation with a Transgender Educator (Ep. 20) 28.11.2023 50:03
Most of us have opinions about transgender people and, perhaps, about the controversial policies affecting transgender students - like ones requiring teachers to notify parents if their students are using names that do not match their birth gender. But few of us have ever had a real, in-depth conversation with a transgender person where we have gotten a chance to hear their personal story or their...
Breaking Through - A Compton High School Teacher Discovers a Way to Bridge Toxic Divides - Part 2 (Ep. 19) 16.09.2023 56:18
In Part 2 of this story, high school students and a parent discuss their experiences participating in an innovative program called SEND (Student Empathy Network for Diversity) designed by Compton High School teacher, Jason Morgan, to strengthen relationships among students and parents from different parts of Los Angeles. ( Listen to Part 1 ) Aaron Butler, a recent graduate from a high school in C...
Breaking Through - A Compton High School Teacher Discovers a Way to Bridge Toxic Divides - Part 1 (Ep. 18) 16.09.2023 44:26
In Part 1 of this story, Jason Morgan, a high school math teacher from Compton, California, describes the innovative program he created called SEND (Student Empathy Network for Diversity) that was designed to strengthen relationships among students and parents in different parts of Los Angeles. “I was talking with my neighbor during the height of like the George Floyd, murder,” Mr. Morgan recall...
Can Educators Prevent Racism in Schools? Diverse Perspectives, Lively Conversation (Ep. 17) 13.06.2023 52:53
Racist acts on school campuses are rising fast. Incidents of hate crimes and physical attacks with a weapon nearly doubled between the 2015-16 and 2017-18 school years. In the 2017-18 school year, schools reported nearly 6,000 hate crimes, according to the US Government Accountability Office. These are criminal acts, not what some people refer to as racial micro-aggressions, which by many accounts...
The Pushback Against Social Emotional Learning. Where it's Coming from and How it Hurts Children (Part 2 with Stephanie Krauss) (Ep. 16) 31.05.2023 24:55
In part 2 of this episode, host Ken Futernick continues his conversation with author Stephanie Krauss about Social Emotional Learning (SEL) and her new book, Whole Child, Whole Life. They explore the growing pushback from conservative policy organizations, like the American Enterprise Institute, and from parent rights advocates like Stephanie McWilliams who says, “Social Emotional Learning is the...
Thriving in Turbulent Times: Why Social Emotional Learning (SEL) is Essential (Part 1 with Stephanie Krauss) (Ep. 15) 30.05.2023 27:47
Host Ken Futernick speaks with Stephanie Krauss, author of the new book, Whole Child, Whole Life - 10 Ways to Help Kids Live, Learn, and Thrive. In Part I of this episode, Krauss, a former teacher with years of experience doing social work, explains why she wrote the book and why it’s especially relevant right now for parents and educators.“We're at a moment where young people are experiencin...
The Latest Culture War Dustup: Balancing Parent Rights With Student Rights (Ep. 14) 15.05.2023 1:17:14
Host Ken Futernick and his guests strive for civil dialogue around a contentious debate playing out across the country: What rights should parents of public school students have when it comes to what’s taught, the books students have access to, and the policies educators must follow? Ken’s guests, which include parents, a high school student, and two school board members, discuss their views on th...
Taking a Stand Against Antisemitism in Schools (Ep. 13) 03.05.2023 1:04:32
Antisemitism in America is on the rise. In 2022, the Anti-Defamation League reported a 50% increase in antisemitic acts in schools over the previous year. In this episode, two students from Montgomery County, Maryland discuss the impact of recent antisemitic acts at their high school. One of them, Rachel Barold, was the target of a particularly vile and terrifying incident. Drawing attention from...
Overcoming Toxic Polarization in our Schools with Peter Coleman (Ep. 12) 09.04.2023 54:02
Peter Coleman, a renowned expert on constructive conflict resolution, shares valuable insights about the sharp rise of polarization in America and the divisive culture wars that plague our schools. He is the authorof the book, The Way Out: How to Overcome Toxic Polarization. After decades of political division, Coleman says Americans today are tired of the dysfunction and the toxic conflicts. “The...
Political Opposites Find Common Ground on Schools, Gender, and Sexuality (Ep. 11) 24.01.2023 1:13:29
What role should schools play when it comes to gender and sexuality? What books should students have access to? What topics should teachers and students be able to discuss? What kind of support should LGBTQ students be able to expect from their schools? These questions have become the focus of intense debate among parents, educators, students, and policy makers. Not surprisingly, conversations amo...
Book Bans Exposed: Who Decides What Students Can Read? (Ep. 10) 03.01.2023 1:03:45
In 2021-22, 138 school districts in 32 states banned more than 2500 books, affecting close to 4 million students. according to EdWeek. In some cases, books are removed because they are deemed by some to be pornographic. In other cases, book bans were prompted by themes considered inappropriate by local decision-makers. Forty-one percent of the books removed from school libraries last year containe...
Calming the Culture Wars in our Schools with Journalist Monica Guzman (Ep. 9) 31.10.2022 21:44
In the end, nobody wins the culture wars, says journalist Monica Guzman. The surprising key to overcoming these conflicts is to become curious rather than confrontational — to reframe the us/them confusion with complexity. Guzman also urges us to reject the easy answers — the sense of certainty many of us feel that we have all of the answers and they don’t. Becoming curious means, we must become b...
Weston Brown's Story: A Family and School Tragedy (Ep. 8) 18.10.2022 39:57
Weston Brown was homeschooled in Dallas, Texas and had limited access to the internet, books, television, and the outside world. At age 24, he mustered the courage to tell his parents that he was gay. Their reaction was not unexpected, he said. “They thought that I was mentally ill or demonically possessed.” Brown had no intentions of battling his parents over their anti-LGBTQ views -- until, that...
Forbidden Topics: Are Schools Hiding the Truth from Students? (Ep. 7) 06.10.2022 59:24
Remember the classroom discussions of current events and controversial topics? They were opportunities to learn what was happening in the world, hear opposing perspectives, and formulate our own opinions. Recently, however, several states have passed laws restricting these discussions. In some cases, teachers are forbidden from discussing any issue that might cause students to feel anguish or disc...
Taming the Culture Wars with Journalist Amanda Ripley (Ep. 6) 18.09.2022 41:42
Best-selling author Amanda Ripley has devoted much of her career studying and writing about conflict. In this interview, Ripley suggests ways to respond to the “conflict entrepreneurs” that are fueling the culture wars in education, and she explains what it will take to shift from “high conflict” – the kind that wreaks havoc on relationships and public discourse -- to “healthy conflict” that schoo...
Culture Wars Claim an Educational Hero: The Tragic Departure of Teacher of the Year Willie Carver (Ep. 5) 13.09.2022 43:05
America’s culture wars are driving great teachers out of the classroom, exacerbating a shortage that has reached critical levels in most states. The story of Willie Carver, an English and French high school teacher from Kentucky, is especially tragic. He was selected as the state’s teacher of the year in 2022 and honored recently with 49 other outstanding teachers at the White House. He was belove...
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