CHALLENGERS Comics + Conversation
Contest of Challengers
From Challengers Comics + Conversation in Chicago, this is Contest of Challengers, a podcast about the business of running a comics shop. From publishers to distributors to the sales floor itself, each episode deals with the issues of the week and how they affect the way Challengers conducts business, and that includes the actual comic book issues themselves. Hosted by Patrick Brower and W. Dal Bush. Thanks for listening. Keep Reading Comics!
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Disappointed in America? Let's talk to Australia! 14.11.2016 1:40:39
17 hours in the future! Our first-ever Australian interview! An interview with Mitchell Davies from All Star Comics in Melbourne. All-Star is also an Eisner-winning shop and their ideas on retail mirror that of Challengers, from 9,674 miles away. This interview was fraught with technical difficulties, but Mitch is a wonderful guy to talk to and this episode came out great, despite the recording is...
Challengers Red vs. Cubby Blue 07.11.2016 1:05:14
Does the Cubs winning the World Series make people more or less likely to buy comics right now? Patrick is the REAL hero of the World Series. Our Civic Duty Discount is back! Street construction blows. Choosing to turn a negative customer interaction into a positive one. We now have people check their bags, but we hate doing it. A personal message from the Rough Riders for Challengers! Red Sonja #...
Ask me about my feminist Avenger 31.10.2016 1:26:21
Oh, Marvel. Oh, oh, Marvel. We have some serious issues to discuss. Cover price. Page count. Unwanted back-up stories. Seriously, 80% of this episode is problems we have with the current Marvel product. #StandWithChelseaCain Curse Words looks great! And other new books for January 2017.
Even more Terry Gant (Part 2) 27.10.2016 57:58
As it seems that Patrick and Terry are almost the same person, this half of the interview is more about pro wrestling and heavy metal than it is about comics, but it always comes back around to comics. Just like life! When these two get together over a bottle of Jameson (yes, there was Jameson), you never know what's going to come out.
On location in Rogers Park with Terry Gant (Part 1) 24.10.2016 1:18:15
It's the first time CoC was recorded in someone else's comic shop! Terry is the owner of Third Coast Comics in Rogers Park. How did he get into comics? How did he get into retail? All the influences that make him the man and comic book retailer he is today.
Damaged product replacing previously damaged product. 17.10.2016 59:34
We're up for a Time Out Love Chicago Award for best Bucktown shop! Just where is Bucktown, anyway? Do comic books count as "media" for media mail? Hint: They do not. So just how do we mail comics? We hate Marvel Comics' paper stock for their covers. Lots of damages lately from Diamond Comics, our distributor. Do we stock the freshest comics? Dal really wants biscuits. Or pancakes. He's not greedy;...
Losing time isn't a problem; losing money is 10.10.2016 1:13:55
After weeks apart, Dal returns to Contest of Challengers and it's like no time has passed at all. New York Comic Con is happening as this episode is recorded, so we talk about new announcements such as Batwoman, Justice League America and Supersons, Neil Gaiman's American Gods, Warren Ellis and a TMNT/WWE crossover. Yes, that's right. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures dressed as WWE wres...
Jill Thompson on Contest of Challengers 03.10.2016 1:23:48
It's an interview with Jill Thompson ! The triple-threat of pop culture; comics, wrestling, and _________? Her brand new graphic novel "Wonder Woman The True Amazon" is out now and she'll be signing it at Challengers on Saturday, October 15th. We talk about how she got into comics as a fan, her love of wrestling, Peanuts, Archie comics and all about Wonder Woman. Bonus: Brian Azzarello is also in...
He's coming 3,000 miles; you can come 5. 25.09.2016 1:07:40
This is an international episode of CoC as England-based writer Antony Johnston joins Patrick and this week's special guest co-host, artist Christopher Mitten, to talk all about how they got into comics as fans and how they wound up working together. They'll both be at Challengers on Saturday, October 1, 2016 from 1:00pm to 3:00pm. Also, music from Antony's SILENCAEON project.
I assure you, we know what Snapchat is. 19.09.2016 58:53
Dal has an iPhone 7. Batman Day 2016 causes some Snapchat confusion. We, once again, sell posters. This week is an embarrassment of great comic riches. So, so, so many great books came out at once! There is more entertainment diversity in comics now than ever before. Patrick does NOT dislike Declan Shalvey's art. No matter what Dal tells you. Genre racking in comic book shops.
Is the 2016 Election actually hurting comic sales? 12.09.2016 1:13:38
This starts with probably too much talk about a toilet. That leads, naturally of course, into the building of our new Back Issue boxes. This is the last week we'll bring up our "C" logo t-shirt Kickstarter. Barnes & Noble is having a rough go of book-selling and that leads us to other retailers and their reasons for a perceived economic downturn. Their reasons surprise us. Clowns! DC sales are up....
Whose fault is it when a title gets cancelled? 05.09.2016 2:02:13
This one goes over the 2-hour mark as Patrick and Dal talk about: Messy store shelves The new Back Issue boxes Chicago's impending Amazon store Image Comics moving their offices to Portland New title announcements from this weekend's Diamond Retailer Summit Whose fault is it when a title gets cancelled? The Publisher? The retailers? The consumers? Lots of talk about pre-orders and why it is NOT yo...
Frank Ocean's impact on the comics industry. 29.08.2016 1:32:06
In a 'rewarding' episode, we talk about how Five Stars is working out for us as a customer rewards program. Is it needed to stay competitive? On the heels of Wizard World Chicago, we reminisce about our earliest con-going experiences (and John Byrne). Armed robbery (not of Challengers, but next to). Secret product drops and the comics industry. Civil War II is late and longer and going to wrap AFT...
Why work for Marvel when you can work for yourself? 22.08.2016 59:35
Live from Seattle, RJ Casey joins Patrick to talk about self-publishing, small press, and working at Fantagraphics. You may recognize RJ's name from several Yeti Press events at Challengers, so hear what took him from the Windy City to the City of Destiny. We go back to the beginning of RJ's comic fandom roots and follow his reading trends away from mainstream comics. Also, Patrick tries unsuccess...
Patrick lost the banana key 15.08.2016 1:18:10
Fridays are down, man, and we don't know why. Jesse Hedman from Minneapolis stopped by the shop. Marking up open order variant covers. Five Stars loyalty program. The Cap Statue gets dusted in (human) ashes. Black Panther. Deathstroke.
The internal metric below which we are wasting our time 08.08.2016 1:33:15
Emails! We're sending lots of emails! Crowd-funding to save stores (not ours). Thank you, Dal's Mom. No Comic Hub. Flashback to 7 years ago. Tilting at Windmills. Hardcover Watchmen. Lady Killer 2 and Animosity reviews. Hurrah!
This 70 minutes of my life is value-less; I should just watch Batman: The Killing Joke. 01.08.2016 1:18:36
The upcoming week is a big one for us behind the scenes, as we install a brand new point of sale system, ComicHub. Patrick and Dal each got to experience the store as customers do. Have you heard of Boulet? He's très magnifique. And there is way too much time spent discussing Batman The Killing Joke.
'theres no irony in forgeing ones logo/signatures' 24.07.2016 1:20:29
We Want EVERY Award! We Won an International Award but Lost a Local One. An alternative bookstore is NOT a comic shop!! Ebay interactions are ridiculous. Comic-Con International San Diego is happening as we record! Image announces 2 fun-sounding books. And… new action figures are a-coming!
A Founding Avenger Dies this week, Killed by Another Avenger, and We Cannot Bring Ourselves to Care 18.07.2016 1:39:39
Holy cats are there a ton of new Marvel Comics scheduled for this fall! There are also many more pre-SDCC announcements. So! Many! And we kind of dump all over Civil War II #3.
If Thor can be Mighty AND Unworthy, why Can't Iron Man be Invincible AND Nefarious? 11.07.2016 2:06:42
What is Dal's fascination with Kate McKinnon? It's a cornucopia of pre-San Diego Comic-Con news this week! The Great Lakes Avengers are back!
Contest of Challengers 267: Spatially Economical 04.07.2016 1:08:25
My least favorite part of every episode is writing this description. Also, this episode's title was supposed to be LAST week's title, but I forgot and just took the name of the song that was playing at the time I posted it.
Contest of Challengers 266: As Good as it Gets 27.06.2016 1:25:06
Patrick is joined by a very special guest and they talk about Brexit, Roman Reigns' suspension, Ikea, a non-Challengers comic shop, the first month of DC Rebirth titles, Civil War II and plenty more.
Contest of Challengers 265: Sliced Fried Gold 20.06.2016 59:54
It's total role-reversal this episode as Patrick chats with David Harper of SKTCHD.com and the Off Panel Podcast.
Contest of Challengers 264: Green Rebirth 06.06.2016 44:54
Lots more Rebirth talk, about this week's Rebirth titles.
Contest of Challengers 263: Hail Rebirth 30.05.2016 53:52
This episode was only 9 minutes… but then Patrick added to it. You're welcome.
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