CHALLENGERS Comics + Conversation
Contest of Challengers
From Challengers Comics + Conversation in Chicago, this is Contest of Challengers, a podcast about the business of running a comics shop. From publishers to distributors to the sales floor itself, each episode deals with the issues of the week and how they affect the way Challengers conducts business, and that includes the actual comic book issues themselves. Hosted by Patrick Brower and W. Dal Bush. Thanks for listening. Keep Reading Comics!
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We'll pay you $4/month to NOT shop here. 11.03.2018 1:01:07
No, not YOU; someone else. But we'd do it if we could. Fridays, amirite?? We start off the episode with a quick reminder of how subscriptions work, because some people still don't get it. You're not an @$$hole for asking questions. The 2018 Sale shirts are in! Why don't we order ALL our graphic novels from Diamond? Also, HOW we order our graphic novels from Diamond. More observations about selling...
As predictable as the Academy Awards 05.03.2018 1:00:47
Suddenly it feels like last week's episode was a 2-parter. More new Marvel 'Fresh Start' title announcements. Several DC announcements from Emerald City Comic Con, including 4 Neil Gaiman-adjacent books and 2 new non DCU Brian Michael Bendis books. Why we do not relish selling C2E2 tickets in-store. February sales numbers are in. March event round-up.
May is going to be a killer month for comics! 26.02.2018 1:11:43
We're not in Portland. Or ARE we? It's the Comics PRO Annual Meeting this weekend. Any news? Diamond Comics' new PreviewsWorld Pullbox has a lot of people talking. Is it just an updated version of ComiXology's old subscription service? Speaking of Previews, DC Comics is leaving Diamond's Previews catalog and starting their own. The Image Expo was also this week, so here's a quick rundown. Marvel i...
Women's Comics Night 18.02.2018 33:40
After years of thinking Challengers didn't need a women-specific comic-themed meet-up, Samantha Challenger proves us so very wrong. The 'hows' and 'whys' of this type of event. The short-term and long-term goals of the night. Plans for the next meet-up. And, Samantha lists her current favorite Manga graphic novels, pro wrestlers and current comic series, and we completely missed the boat by not ha...
We do great with all-ages comics, but what about the Young Adult market? 11.02.2018 1:02:43
Patrick is worried about the snow affecting business during the yearly sale. Dal is not. DC Comics has to new younger reader graphic novel imprints. This episode has very little editing to show you what these conversations really sound like. We think there are too many Infinity Countdown-related books in Marvel's immediate future. DC wisely doesn't try to tie their current comics into their curren...
DC Comics has just planned your summer. 05.02.2018 1:07:30
Feeling ownership of the city you live and work in, and putting money back into that very community. Thanks, Patreon patrons! Dal wants us to do Patreon-exclusive episode. Big changes at Valiant this week. Some really big DC news out this week: DC Nation #0 and the new Action Comics and Superman plans. More weekly series are going to make ordering that much more challenging. The New Age of DC Hero...
Picking up the crumbs, with fellow retailer Brian Hibbs. 29.01.2018 55:27
Misconfigured microphone settings can't keep us from talking to one of our favorite comics retailers, BRIAN HIBBS of Comix Experience in San Francisco! Brian's been in the comics industry longer than we have, and his insight is invaluable. Looking at the state of the industry vs. the quality of today's product. Comix Experience has an amazing graphic novel club. You will not believe what Brian's f...
What did we get in the mail? It rhymes with "cocaine." 22.01.2018 1:08:55
You will not believe what came in Saturday's mail. The 1990's X-Men cartoon is responsible for getting so many people interested in comic books. Marvel putting out 4 new Wolverine-adjacent mini-series strikes us as a bad idea. DC's Action Comics #1000 strikes us a s a good idea. Dan Slott is leaving Spider-Man for Iron Man, and Marvel signed Kelly Thompson to an exclusive contract. We like both of...
Mounting inconveniences and humiliations. 15.01.2018 1:01:37
Well, we finally heard back from our landlord… We talk about what that means for the future and potential changes. The pros and cons of genre racking graphic novels. How we read or single issue comics. We're not excited for the New Age of DC Heroes. We may be stocking *gasp* open order variant covers. Happy Birthday, Lucy Knisley! More community-oriented events are coming to Challengers.
This is not what we want to be known for. 08.01.2018 1:21:44
Welcome new listeners! Are you ready for a serious look at 2017's sales? We were down 6.8% from 2016 and we discuss the numbers, trends and percentages. We're down over $21,000.00 in single-issue Marvel Comics sales. This became an international news story and got a lot of people talking. Too many, you might say. 94 Subscribers did NOT come in for their comics in December. We bought product from 1...
We are optimistic for 2018, I promise. 01.01.2018 1:21:23
Those 6 days of Christmas sales were nice. Not as good as 2016, but still nice. We got some real nice 5-star reviews recently, and a head-scratching 1-star. Getting people to leave their homes for entertainment is hard to do. How do we get comic reviews to be as sales-boosting as game reviews? Patrick writes a comics commercial on the spot. Women's Comics Month 2018 is shaping up to be great with...
MARX: A Tale of Neglect 28.12.2017 29:00
This special mid-week bonus episode is an interview recorded in Challengers with Onrie Kompan and Dan Dougherty, creators of the new real life historical graphic novel MARX: A Tale of Neglect. It was recorded just before Christmas, so forgive a few Holiday well-wishes that are merely a week old. This graphic novel is the story of what Onrie's grandfather went thru during World War II. Find out how...
It finally feels like Christmas (in our cash register). 24.12.2017 54:17
Christmas finally has a positive effect on sales, and it's fun to go to work when people want to buy comics! There is a brand new reason we're excited to stay in our current location (if we can). Marvel is stealth-cancelling a bunch of titles. Some Marvel Legacy titles we really like. Is Dan Slott leaving Amazing Spider-Man? Who can replace him? "Surviving Creativity" is a great podcast. We sure w...
Happy Holidays to all the Russian bot-farms that "listen" to us. 17.12.2017 1:04:21
Dal immediately starts talking about Star Wars The Last Jedi (which he hadn't even seen at the time of this recording—but don't worry; he's seen it plenty since then). The pros and cons of Disney acquiring Fox. And, of course, Net Neutrality. A follow-up to last episode's Patreon discussion. What a difference a week makes. A rundown of 2018's gold tier Free Comic Book Day comics. They look good.
The Challengers Holiday Graphic Novel Gift Guide. 11.12.2017 1:03:34
Patreon has changed the way fees are paid, and no one likes it. Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa/Solstice/Festivus Gift Ideas for the comic fans on your list! Yes, we talk about buying Taylor Swift concert tickets. "Marvel Rising: Secret Warriors" looks wonderful and we're excited for it.
If you build it, they may not come. 04.12.2017 1:10:05
Occasionally we get asked for advice on opening a comic store. This episode is our real-world advice to someone asking us questions about opening their own store. Lessons we've learned; lessons we haven't learned; lessons we're still learning. We may joke about our 'success' but you can't be in business for almost 10 years by not knowing what you're doing.
This is culture, and culture is us. 28.11.2017 1:00:43
Three events in five days! We run 'em all down. Doomsday Clock #1 11:57pm Release Event. Black Friday 50% OFF Comics (Comics; NOT graphic novels) Santa's Husband Signing. The diversity of these three events give us plenty to talk about, for sure. Oh, and don't worry; we do find time to talk about the Wolverine.
The "CB" in his name stands for "Comic Books," of course. 19.11.2017 1:17:04
Holiday decorations come early, for a specific reason. WGN News stopped by to film a segment (or 5) on Local Comic Shop Day at Challengers. Don Cardenas talks about his Packs of the Lowcountry Kickstarter. Axel Alonso is out as Marvel Comics Editor-In-Chief. CB Cebulski is in. We're having a BIG Black Friday Sale!
One publisher's loss is possibly another publisher's loss. 13.11.2017 1:07:56
It's the biggest comics news story of the year, and we make you wait over 30 minutes before we start talking about it. First we talk about Funko's Initial Public Offering disaster. New themed displays in-store, including Thor Ragnarok and the Justice League. X-Men Red. Looking at possible new locations, just in case we have to move. DC Comics has signed Brian Michael Bends to an exclusive contract...
File down the serial number a little more. 06.11.2017 44:04
At the time of recording, Patrick and Dal have seen Thor Ragnarok a combined 5 times. This episode's title has no actual bearing to the episode, but it is mentioned, so it counts, but "A piece of water" is just as accurate. Rian Hughes, our favorite logo designer, has a book of his logos coming out in April. Should we care about eBay exclusive Marvel Comics variant covers? More egregious nonsense...
Buy the comic, then we'll talk about it. That's your conversation. 30.10.2017 1:04:58
What Chicagoland comic shop has been open the longest? Patrick really wants to read a history of Chicago comic book retail stores. Halloween Comicfest just happened and we don't know if we promoted it correctly. We received a graphic novel this week that had no data in Diamond's system, yet we had customers' orders for it. This is the story of getting Diamond to help us with it. Some subscribers a...
We guess you only want MORE Batman comics. 23.10.2017 1:08:14
Marvel's movie-based collections don't really work for us. That leads into talk about Thor: Ragnarok. The sharp drop-off of mini-series sales numbers. The saga of one man looking for the first issue of Aftershock's Fu-Jitsu #1. $6,000.00 of dental work vs. one extra comic book. We're now Facebook verified! Sean Dove has been added to our Halloween Comicfest event! The difficulties of explaining Da...
Yes, it IS all Marvel's fault. 15.10.2017 1:02:35
Patrick fixed an issue with the receiver (so you can hear the new FOZZY CD "Judas" on ALL 6 store speakers!!). Dal won't watch "Mei and the Kitten Bus." Comixology is ditching their Pull List functionality (more than a year after we already ditched it). We're featured in the new book "Comic Shop: The Retail Mavericks Who Gave Us a New Geek Culture." Subscriber copies vs. shelf copies on any given...
A perfect snapshot of today's comics and today's comics retail. 08.10.2017 1:03:04
How far is too far from the blue line? Some comic retailers still cannot handle diversity in comics. The first 6 pages of Doomsday Clock are online and Dal likes it more than expected. A whole bunch of news from the New York Comic Con. A whole bunch.
Policing comics thru the lens of the greater good. 02.10.2017 1:04:51
Should we change our store hours? How a 1981 episode of WKRP in Cincinnati resonates with today's comics industry. Why we don't sell vintage books. Hugh Hefner vs. Dr. Seuss Measuring yesterday's comics thru the lens of today. Marvel Legacy is finally here! Patrick went to the eye doctor. Upcoming Marvel Avengers and Venom crossovers. A letter from a fellow retailer. Why did we recently buy a used...
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