Kestrel Jenkins
Conscious Chatter
The first global sustainable fashion podcast, Conscious Chatter opens the door to conversations about our clothing + the layers of stories, meaning and potential impact connected to what we wear. Hosted by Kestrel Jenkins, Conscious Chatter tackles nuanced topics that intersect with sustainability, fashion, systems of oppression, health, and wellbeing through a curiosity-driven lens. Through deep dive monthly themes, the focus is on making the conversation more circular.
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Kestrel Jenkins
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Latest episode
May 25, 2026
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Episodes
Celebrating the cultural tradition, past and present, of Palestinian Tatreez with artists / educators Lina Barkawi and Eman Toom & why sustainable fashion must include cultural sustainability 27.02.2024 1:14:30
Episode 316 features guests Lina Barkawi , a Tatreez practitioner, preservationist, and educator based in Brooklyn, alongside Eman Toom , a Palestinian Tatreez artist, teacher, sewer and crafter. "Part of just doing tatreez, in my personal opinion, is a form of resistance because we're basically just existing and we're showing our Palestinian identity, but there have also been very explicit uses o...
Intergenerational knowledge & sustainable fashion — how clothing is more than just aesthetics; it's about the upholding of cultural practices and the amplifying of knowledge & traditions 13.02.2024 58:01
Episode 315 features guests Amy Denet Deal, the founder of 4Kinship , a Diné (Navajo) owned sustainable artwear brand, alongside Sha'Mira Covington, Ph. D., an interdisciplinary scholar-artist and Assistant Professor in Fashion. "Thinking about sustainability beyond just the textiles, thinking about the land that we're on, how we can live in reciprocity with the people, the four-legged relatives,...
Vintage stylist Beth Jones & Dounia Wone of Vestiaire Collective on whether fast fashion brands fit into the resale experience 30.01.2024 1:05:55
In episode 314, you'll hear our first official roundtable format, featuring guests Beth Jones, YouTube star and creator of B. Jones Style , alongside Dounia Wone, the Chief Impact Officer at Vestiaire Collective , a platform that showcases luxury preloved fashion. "It's few and far between that the fast fashion holds up against vintage or really quality pieces maybe made by a designer or things li...
Why self work is integral to advocating for transformation in fashion & why we must deeply question our personal values to truly get active in creating a more sustainable fashion future 16.01.2024 1:23:30
In episode 313, you'll hear from co-hosts (yes, co-hosts!) Kestrel Jenkins and Natalie Shehata in the launch of Season 7. This is also the first episode in which Kestrel and Nat showcase their new co-host dynamic. With this powerful community-driven change, they've teamed up to reimagine some aspects of the show. Here's what you can expect this season: Roundtable Discussions — featuring at least 2...
Denali Jöel on fashion as an art praxis rooted in Afro-Indigenous philosophies, interrogating the emphasis placed on the *industry* & reminding us of the possibility of creating new ecosystems 07.11.2023 51:36
In episode 312, Kestrel welcomes Denali Jöel, a non-binary Multidisciplinary Artist, Designer, Educator and Fashion Griot, to the show. Born and raised in Kingston, Jamaica, Denali has been an asylee living in the US since 2014, recently obtaining their U.S. citizenship this year. Their art praxis intersects design, performance, media and community engagement with particular focus on queer identit...
Julius Tillery aka the "Puff Daddy Of Cotton" on the need to remix both the perception of the cotton industry and the business model 30.10.2023 35:40
In episode 311, Kestrel welcomes Julius Tillery, founder of BlackCotton, to the show. A 5th-generation cotton farmer from North Carolina, Julius founded BlackCotton to help center and uplift the Black community closest to the cotton fields in Northampton County, North Carolina. "There's so many demons and like bad spirits and bad tropes around cotton and the industry in general, and you know, ju...
Cassandra Pintro of Consumption Project on welcoming her community to challenge their buying habits and question what is *enough* 24.10.2023 57:37
In episode 310, Kestrel and Natalie welcome Cassandra Pintro, the founder of The Consumption Project, to the show. With a focus on making impact cool, The Consumption Project serves as a catalyst for educating folks about the impact of their buying habits and nurturing a collective mindset that values quality, longevity, and the environment. "So, it was — how do I find myself in this space and ho...
Jeanell English on navigating the pressure to project a certain image in business & across climate spaces and balancing the worlds of activists & execs as a leader in impact 17.10.2023 47:41
In episode 309, Kestrel welcomes Jeanell English, the founder and CEO of ELIZABETH, to the show. An experienced facilitator and people operations leader, Jeanell has worked in an array of roles, most recently as the Executive Vice President of Impact and Inclusion at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, before she dove fully into her own company, ELIZABETH . "Because the reality is — y...
Muchaneta Ten Napel on utilizing tech as a tool to change how fashion does business, not a crutch that will *save us all* & preparing for the fashion policy changes that are on the horizon 10.10.2023 1:04:40
In episode 308, Kestrel welcomes Muchaneta Ten Napel, the founder of Shape Innovate and FashNerd.com, to the show. As a fashion economist, a lecturer, a writer, a consultant and the founder of Shape Innovate and FashNerd.com , Muchaneta is powering change through a multifaceted approach. "To many people, today, to be sustainable is a way of draining money out of your company — it's not a money-ma...
*Breaking It Down* with Rachel Arthur, lead author of The Sustainable Fashion Communication Playbook, an actionable guide co-published by UNEP and UN Climate Change 26.09.2023 48:29
In episode 307, Kestrel welcomes Rachel Arthur, a strategist, journalist, and the Advocacy Lead for Sustainable Fashion at the United Nations Environment Programme, to the show. Rachel is the lead author of The Sustainable Fashion Communication Playbook , which was published earlier this year by the United Nations Environment Programme and the UN Climate Change Fashion Charter. "Communicators them...
Tameka Peoples of Seed2Shirt on rebuilding equitable + just cotton systems & fostering the reclamation of cotton acreage for Black farmers 19.09.2023 46:18
In episode 306, Kestrel welcomes Tameka Peoples, the founder and CEO of Seed2Shirt, to the show. A Black-woman-owned vertically integrated ethical apparel production & boutique cotton merchant firm, Seed2Shirt is focused on rebuilding equitable systems and institutions. "You're seeing laws put into place like the 1862 Homestead Act where there were millions of acres of land just given to white fam...
Lisa Diegel, Global Sustainability Director, on Faherty's Native Initiatives, what mutually beneficial relationships can look like in practice, and the nuanced ways brands must take responsibility for the products they put out into the world 12.09.2023 40:28
In episode 305, Kestrel welcomes Lisa Diegel, the Global Sustainability Director at Faherty, to the show. A family business, Faherty is focused on making high quality clothing. "They knew they wanted to do things differently and not follow that conventional way of take > make > waste in the fashion industry. They wanted to build a feel-good brand. And I think to do that, you need to be accountable...
Eric Liedtke of UNLESS on pressing fashion to ditch the plastic ingredients and ideating on what it will take for corporations to truly change 05.09.2023 43:59
In episode 304, Kestrel welcomes Eric Liedtke, the co-founder and CEO of UNLESS, to the show. A collective of innovators, engineers, artists, and activists, UNLESS make plant-based streetwear designed to leave zero plastic waste. "I think sustainability is one of those hygiene words at this point — like everybody can talk themselves into they're doing sustainable things . I think we need to get mo...
A new era of storytelling at Conscious Chatter, meet our newest team member Natalie Shehata & what slow media means for us in practice 15.08.2023 49:30
In episode 303, Kestrel welcomes Natalie Shehata, Conscious Chatter's new Social Media Strategist + Storyteller, to the show. A sustainable stylist, community organizer, speaker and writer, Nat brings exceptional experience and knowledge to how we approach storytelling. "I feel as though storytelling for me has been a very powerful medium in being able to instigate change. I feel like stories real...
Jessie Frances (@cappuccinosandconsignment) on the complications with resale's *moment* — fast fashion addictions becoming secondhand addictions, luxury's obsession with exclusivity & the gentrification of thrifting 18.07.2023 49:32
In episode 302, Kestrel welcomes Jessie Frances (@cuppuccinosandconsignment) to the show. Highly knowledgeable on the world of preloved fashion, Jessie holds a BFA in Fashion Design and French with a Minor in Art History. Through her work, she shares ideas around luxury vintage savviness, smart travel tips, and slow-living hacks, and also consults companies on luxury resale. "It is an addiction. E...
Winona Quigley of Green Matters Natural Dye Company on reimagining what *scale* means for natural dyeing & how accessibility and limits also play into the idea of *growth* 11.07.2023 59:56
In episode 301, Kestrel welcomes Winona Quigley, the founder and CEO of Green Matters Natural Dye Company, to the show. Based in Lancaster County PA, Green Matters is dedicated to bringing pollution-free color to the textile industry by using all-natural dye ingredients. "I think that what brands are going to have to embrace about working with more sustainable fibers and textile-making practices,...
Scientist Dr. Lisa Erdle of 5 Gyres on what we know about microfiber shedding from clothing & the solutions can make an impact 04.07.2023 44:19
In episode 300, Kestrel welcomes Dr. Lisa Erdle, the Director of Science and Research at 5 Gyres , to the show. A microplastics researcher and lifelong sailor, Lisa is passionate about keeping waterways clean for wildlife and people. "A load of laundry can shed anywhere in the range of hundreds of thousands to millions of microfibers, depending on how you wash and what you wash. There can be 850 t...
Liz Spencer of Dogwood Dyer on growing organic natural dye gardens to coax color from plants & acknowledging the cultural origins of dyestuffs along the way 20.06.2023 58:17
In episode 299, Kestrel welcomes Liz Spencer, the natural dye wizard behind Dogwood Dyer, to the show. With experience in both tending organic natural dye gardens and coaxing color from plants, Liz has devoted her artistic practice to discovering as much as possible about color that can come from plants. "That's sort of the pathway to understanding — is having the time to be intimate with one thin...
Researcher Anjana Baburaj on the pervasiveness of Shein & the ways in which social media and the drive to increase social status are directly fueling the overconsumption of clothing 13.06.2023 40:34
In episode 298, Kestrel welcomes Anjana Baburaj to the show. An impact-focused strategist and communications specialist, Anjana works with mission-driven organizations to leverage communication platforms to increase visibility and achieve sustainability and impact goals. "No matter how much we try to control — if we keep overconsuming, we're not getting anywhere with anything that we're doing for...
Lizz Leral of Quilting For Community on the links between quilting and mental health, and how accessing the flow state via hand-oriented activities can help unlock answers to life's questions 06.06.2023 39:58
In episode 297, Kestrel welcomes Lizz Leral, the Executive Director of Quilting for Community, to the show. A nonprofit organization, Quilting For Community is focused on building community by teaching the art of quiltmaking. "The act of focusing on such a small area of the world — nothing else exists in that little area but that piece of fabric, and whether you're measuring or you're cutting or y...
Kelly Drennan of Fashion Takes Action on the importance of youth education that centers fashion's impact on people + the planet 23.05.2023 52:18
In episode 296, Kestrel welcomes Kelly Drennan, the founder of Fashion Takes Action, to the show. A Canada-based non-profit, Fashion Takes Action works to remove barriers to sustainability through education, awareness, research and collaboration. "We often talk about our school program, and just fashion is inherently cool, you know. And so, we're able to really, through our school program, touch o...
Rayouf Alhumedhi, creator of the hijab emoji, on examining Gen Z's shopping behavior & highlighting why product designers should rethink existing product before designing new 16.05.2023 42:29
In episode 295, Kestrel welcomes Rayouf Alhumedhi, the creator of the hijab emoji, to the show. Deeply passionate about bridging the creative space and tech, Rayouf founded the hijab emoji project to push for digital representation for Muslim women around the world. She was named one of Time's Most Influential Teens and Forbes 30 under 30; currently, Rayouf is a senior at Stanford majoring in Prod...
Jeff Garner of Prophetik on how synthetic fabrics & toxic chemicals connected to our clothing are impacting our health 02.05.2023 48:31
In episode 294, Kestrel welcomes Jeff Garner, the designer behind Prophetik, to the show. A romantic visual artist, pioneer and unconventional designer, Jeff's sustainably-minded label Prophetik is focused on changing our perception of luxury. "It's interesting how everybody in their different segment of market just want to do the cheapest ingredient because they don't expect the buyer to buy it,...
Jenna & Jon of Revival Eyewear on what makes deadstock vintage eyewear superior in quality & how conglomerate Luxottica has created a monopoly-like hold on today's glasses industry 11.04.2023 46:46
In episode 293, Kestrel welcomes Jenna Hanson and Jon Hershman, the cofounders of Revival Eyewear, to the show. Offering an extensive collection of deadstock vintage glasses and sunglasses, Revival Eyewear is dedicated to reminding us that it's possible for old things to be elevated in both quality and style. "I fell in love with the glasses and the idea that these were vintage but brand new. I h...
Denica Riadini-Flesch of SukkhaCitta on rediscovering Indigenous regenerative farming and dyeing techniques & challenging the status quo 04.04.2023 56:11
In episode 292, Kestrel welcomes Denica Riadini-Flesch, a development economist and the director at SukkhaCitta, to the show. A social enterprise started in 2016, SukkhaCitta works to give women in rural Indonesia fair access to education and market. "We have grown this company, this mission, these projects on the ground with that mindset that we want to build a model for change. So, we are not he...
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