Clate Mask

Conquer the Chaos

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Conquer the Chaos takes you behind the scenes with entrepreneurs and thought leaders as they share the vulnerable moments that changed them and real advice on how to grow a successful small business. What can look like smooth growth on the outside is often chaotic on the inside. Host Clate Mask, CEO of Keap, has seen both hockey-stick growth and the damage the dark side of entrepreneurship can do on relationships and business success. He shares his own experiences, his six keys to success, and lessons of his own in this engaging conversation that will give you the real stories behind successfu...

Author

Clate Mask

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Business

Podcast website

keap.com

Latest episode

Jan 27, 2026

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Episodes

039 - A Sale Is Just a Story - Drew Doolan 04.01.2017

Drew Doolan started his business, Sites N Stores , in 2008 to help small businesses  build their websites and "be the big brother" of the small businesses they were working with. Drew has since grown is company to have 35 full-time employees, but it was a long road. He talks with Clate and Scott about the fear of hiring that first person and getting over viewing employees as "necessary evils"; the...

004 - A Man is a Success if… - Matt Leitz (Rebroadcast) 28.12.2016

Matt Leitz is a born entrepreneur—he even thought he invented social networking. Clearly he didn't, but he brings that passion to his role as  President of Clever Investor. He shares with Clate and Scott the struggles his company faced along the way—like losing every customer's credit card information—as well as the big wins, like helping customers get results and taking a six-week vacation. Want...

003 - Two Scientists Walk Onto a Pecan Grove - Abigail Olaya (Rebroadcast) 21.12.2016

Abigail Olaya and her husband went from corporate work to owning their own business during the U.S. economic downturn of 2008. They now run Venue at the Grove, a wedding venue and experience in Phoenix, Arizona. Their business journey hasn't been easy—when Abigail was pregnant with triplets, her one remaining site coordinator resigned a mere month before Abigail's due date. She talks with Clate an...

038 - Stages of Small Business Success 14.12.2016

All small businesses have the same stages of growth to go through. Which are you in? Click here to download a chart of these different stages so you can follow along as Scott Martineau interviews Clate Mask about the stages of small business success. Why are these stages important? Because there's no one-size-fits-all sales or marketing solution for small businesses. The stages of small business s...

037 - Always Be the Weirdo in the Room - Pamela Slim 07.12.2016

Pamela Slim started out as a director at Barclays Global Investors and quit her job to become a consultant and found she was made to be an entrepreneur. Two books and a brand new startup space later , she's working with small businesses across the nation to help them find their community and develop a local presence. She talks with Clate Mask and Scott Martineau about how entrepreneurs—especially...

036 - Getting Accustomed to Risk - Paul Tobey 30.11.2016

Paul Tobey, CEO of Training Business Pros , wasn't always an entrepreneur–in fact, he "fell out of the music industry" after years as a professional jazz musician. He and his family lost 22 years of hard work and had to rebuild, starting out with him and his family living in his parents' house. Paul talks with Clate Mask and David Bonney about making it after years of hard work and trying to find...

002 - Sailing off the Cliff - Stephanie Holmes (Rebroadcast) 23.11.2016

Stephanie Holmes faced condescension when she floated the idea of deviating from just selling financial services. She wanted to help people change their spending habits, structure their debt, and have the life they want, and she had to start her own practice to do it. She later sold it when she started The Money Finder, of which she is currently the CEO. She chats with Clate and Scott about naysay...

035 - Re-engage Your Leads Part III 16.11.2016

It's time to get into the nitty gritty of re-engaging unconverted leads. David Bonney, Carey Ballard, and demand generation specialist Jared Kimball talk email subject lines, preview text, email layout, CTAs and more. It comes down to proving to your recipients that your email not only deserves to be read, but that you deserve to be engaged with. Want to write better re-engagement emails? Check ou...

034 - John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Clate Mask 09.11.2016

On Friday, November 4, 2016, Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney held a forum with Infusionsoft CEO Clate Mask at Infusionsoft's headquarters.* Organized by McCain's office during his re-election campaign, the forum's focus was on small business growth and policies that enable that growth. Romney talked about raising wages and strengthening the economy through helpin...

033 - The Fading Oasis - Aly Saxe 02.11.2016

Aly Saxe had already founded and grown a successful PR firm when, with two babies, she decided to start her PR software company Iris PR . Why would she leave the perfect business to start a new one? Aly talks with Clate Mask and Scott Martineau about tenacity, why it doesn't work to chase two dreams, and creating a product that changes customers' lives. Growing your first, second, third or more bu...

032 - Re-Engagement Part 2 26.10.2016

Ready to re-engage your leads? Let's talk strategy. There are three steps: Collect leads, re-engage and drive them to an offer, and make it easier to purchase. David Bonney, Carey Ballard, and demand gen specialist Jared Kimball talk about ways to do those three things through low-entry point offers. Got a bunch of small offerings? You can create campaigns to warm your cold leads and close a sale....

031 - Lessons from the Squeaker Incident 19.10.2016

Way back in the early days of Infusionsoft, Clate and Scott had a truck that didn't work so reliably. Nicknamed "Squeaker," the truck is at the center of a certain nearly-infamous and humbling incident, in which the execs Clate and Scott just had a sales meeting with saw them unsuccessfully trying to start Squeaker—a few times. Clate and Scott share what that incident taught them, namely that it's...

030 - Re-Engagement Part 1 12.10.2016

Need more sales? Think that to get more sales you need to get more new leads? You could actually raise sales by re-engaging the leads you already have. All those leads who weren't ready to buy, or went off the grid? What it takes is reigniting a relationship with those leads, providing them value, and solving their pain points. Jared Kimball, a demand gen specialist, joins David Bonney and Carey B...

029 - The Small Business Success Method - David Bonney 05.10.2016

We're introducing a new kind of episode to the mix! We've got director of content Carey Ballard teaming up with small business success expert David Bonney to talk through the strategies, how-tos, and tactics you need to grow your small business. Carey and David talk with Scott Martineau about the concepts behind Infusionsoft's Small Business Success Method, which helps business owners go from wher...

028 - The Determination Factor - Allison Werder 28.09.2016

One of Alison Werder's toughest business moments was letting go an employee who just wasn't the right fit. Upon departing, the former employee told Alison, "You think you're big time, but you're not." But the mission of Alison's business, Ali J Boutique , is big time. Alison chats with Clate about how she went from selling scarves to creating an online apparel company; balancing business with pare...

027 - From Intern to CEO - Dobbin Buck and Melissa Allen 21.09.2016

Dobbin Buck and Melissa Allen didn't start GetUWired , but they're the brains and co-owners behind it now. They both came in when there were a handful of people on the staff, and in the ensuing eight years have built it to a robust team of 37. Melissa, who started as an intern, is now CEO, and Dobbin is the VP of business development. They both talk with Infusionsoft CEO Clate Mask about working w...

026 - Marital Judo - Mark & Alexis Breyer (rebroadcast) 14.09.2016

Mark Breyer once declared that he would never work with his wife, Alexis, but they've been running their personal injury law firm together for 20 years. In retrospect, they found that they set themselves up to have problems scaling their business and fall behind the times. Clate and Scott follow Mark and Alexis' business journey and talk about going from generalist to specialist, letting half thei...

025 - Overcommit to Plan A - Budi Voogt 07.09.2016

At 25, Netherlands-based Budi Voogt is one of the entrepreneurial wunderkinder starting university businesses that take off into adulthood. At 20 years old, he started Heroic , a record label, incubator, and accelerator for artists. With 12 people between the label and his personal business, Budi Voogt , Budi talks with Clate about becoming a young leader, capitalizing on early-stage platforms, an...

024 - A Profitable Punch to the Face - Brian Young 31.08.2016

Brian Young has owned Home Painters Toronto for 28 years, but it took him almost 20 years to come to terms with getting off of cold calling and into online marketing. In fact, it took a literal punch to the face to get him to question the way he was running his business. Brian chats with Scott and director of content Carey Ballard about hitting bottom, making it through the Great Recession, and wi...

023 - What is a Scott Martineau? 24.08.2016

You heard Clate's side of the Infusionsoft story. Now hear it from co-founder and CCO Scott Martineau. Scott talks with director of content Carey Ballard about getting started in his dad's business, suffering from "entrepreneurial seizures," and holding on to business when you probably shouldn't, only to reap the rewards later. Mentioned in this episode: "The E-Myth" by Michael Gerber   Want to ge...

022 - The Long Road to Overnight Success - Sean Gagnon 17.08.2016

After 20 years in business, The Abs Company has seen a lot: The years leading up to the overnight success of infomercial legend The Ab Roller; negotiating patents and legal disputes; testing their products in gyms; and sending fitness care packages to troops overseas. Sean Gagnon, president of The Abs Company, chats with Clate and Scott about what success looks like, getting Fortune 500 levels of...

021 - Arrival Syndrome - Ryan Deiss 10.08.2016

Ryan Deiss, founder and CEO of DigitalMarketer.com , got his start in what some might say was a strange business for a teenage boy. But it taught him tons of marketing lessons, and he steps into the studio with Clate and Scott to share some of those business marketing tips. He talks about the importance of keeping your business market-centric and remembering that your business is NOT about your pr...

020 - Classic Mistakes - Cara Hale Alter 04.08.2016

Cara Hale Alter had built up a fully-booked business in leadership and communication skills—until the recession-induce crickets brought Speech Skills to a crashing halt, and only 5 percent of their previous business volume. She and her business partner/husband used that time to really build up the business so that once the economy recovered, they came out stronger than ever. Cara talks with Clate...

019 - Trading Hours for Dollars - Bill Harney 27.07.2016

In 2006, Bill Harney's father, a real estate broker for 25 years, realized something was rotten in the state of real estate, and that something bad was coming. So he started Keeping Current Matters, a real estate education business. Bill joined the business as employee number four, when his dad was doing 200 speaking events a year, which Bill saw was unsustainable economically and practically. Wit...

018 - Connecting Personal and Planetary - Cate Stillman 20.07.2016

Cate Stillman did what many entrepreneurs dream of: starting and growing a business within her passion. Her background in international environmental politics and policy brought her to the teachings of Ayurveda, a system of natural healing and medicine that originated in India thousands of years ago. While learning both yoga and Ayurveda, she realized that those two communities, which are traditio...

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