Alix Dunn
Computer Says Maybe
Technology is changing fast. And it's changing our world even faster. Host Alix Dunn interviews visionaries, researchers, and technologists working in the public interest to help you keep up. Step outside the hype and explore the possibilities, problems, and politics of technology. We publish weekly.
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Episodes
The Collective Intelligence Project w/ Divya Siddarth and Zarinah Agnew 30.05.2025 54:31
Most of the time we interview people who say No to AI. In this interview, Georgia and Alix talk to two people who look at AI and ask How and For What. And lots of other questions too. Divya Siddarth and Zarinah Agnew from the Collective Intelligence Project share CIP’s work using AI systems to explore more consultative democratic governance, how to reframe the social and relational of knowledge, t...
Net0++: Data Center Sprawl | NEW Research from The Maybe 23.05.2025 54:09
We’re excited to finally share our report on data center expansion and resistance around the world. It’s been a labor of love, but also showcases the amazing work of many organisations, activists, and journalists around the world that are working to create space for meaningful consultation about hugely consequential decisions. Download it here . In short, the report includes five case studies on d...
Net 0++: AI Thirst in a Water-Scarce World w/ Julie McCarthy 16.05.2025 53:29
Last year, Elon Musk’s xAI built a data centre in Memphis in 19 days — and the local government only found out about it on the 20th day. How? Julie McCarthy and her team at NatureFinance have just released a report about the nature-related impacts of data center development globally. There are some pretty dire statistics in there: 55% of data centers are developed in areas that are already at risk...
Short: Open AI for...Countries? w/ Marietje Schaake 15.05.2025 13:52
This is another Computer Says Maybe short, this time with Marietje Schaake (author of The Tech Coup ), to discuss OpenAI’s recent announcement : they want to partner with governments all around the world to build ‘democratic AI rails’ — sounds bad! Computer Says Maybe Shorts bring in experts to give their ten-minute take on recent news. If there’s ever a news story you think we should bring in exp...
Short: What Just Happened to 23andMe? w/ Jenny Reardon 13.05.2025 14:58
Personalised genotyping company 23andMe just went bankrupt — what’s gonna happen to all that genetic data? We brought back genomics professor Jenny Reardon to discuss the crushing void that was 23andMe’s business model — and that many companies like it have failed before. This is a Computer Says Maybe Short, where we bring in an expert to give their take on recent news. If there’s ever a news stor...
Terra Nullius: Who Owns the Skies? w/ Julia Powles 09.05.2025 52:48
This is our second Terra Nullius episode. As a reminder this means ‘Nobody’s Land’ — an infamous legal fiction from the age of Empire. In this episode we ask: who owns the skies? We get into it with law professor Julia Powles, who shares her research and perspective on the accelerating prospect of drone delivery companies taking over the skies. What? Yeah we had the same reaction. In the future a...
Terra Nullius: Who Owns Outer Space? w/ Heather Allansdottir 02.05.2025 48:57
This is our first in a series called Terra Nullius. Huh? It’s Latin for ‘Nobody’s Land’. We will be exploring how rules are made for contested territory. If a land belongs to no one, does that mean it’s just up for grabs? This week we’re starting with outer space, speaking with an expert in space law, Heather Allansdottir. But why should we care about space when the planet we are standing on is fa...
How to (Actually) Keep Kids Safe Online w/ Kate Sim 25.04.2025 48:29
Child safety is a fuzzy catch-all concept for our broader social anxieties that seems to be everywhere in our conversations about the internet. But child safety isn’t a new concept, and the way our politics focuses on the spectacle isn’t new either. To help us unpack this is Kate Sim, who has over a decade of experience in sexual violence prevention and response and is currently the Director of th...
Worker Power & Big Tech Bossmen w/ David Seligman 18.04.2025 46:08
This week Alix interviewed David Seligman, Executive Director of Towards Justice, to tell us more about how big tech companies act brazenly as legal bullies to extract wealth and power from the working class in the US. He makes a compelling case for the urgent need to re-orient our thinking about political power and organise against it. We talk about legal devices like forced arbitration and monop...
AI Can’t Fix This: Live in London 11.04.2025 1:15:58
Last week Alix was in London to talk UK politics and broligarchy with four amazing guests: Martha Dark from Foxglove gave us the history and implications of the NHS/Palantir partnership of horror Matt Mahmoudi outlined the UK’s push to amp up facial recognition surveillance and to outlaw protests (seems good) Seyi Akiwowo shared a retrospective of the development of the Online Safety Act — the UK’...
Technology Nationalism in India w/ Divij Joshi 04.04.2025 50:24
Amidst the scrambling of geopolitics, there is increasing conversation and momentum for the concept of tech sovereignty. It basically means that countries should build their own technology rather than rely on Silicon Valley. India Stack! Euro Stack! Everyone wants a stack. In this episode we explore India’s work over the last 20 years to build ‘digital public infrastructure’ or DPI. They went YOLO...
AI Assistant or AI Boss? w/ Data & Society 28.03.2025 43:01
Two years ago, we were told that ‘prompt engineer’ would be a real job — well, it’s not. Is generative AI actually going to replace and transform human labour, or is this just another shallow marketing narrative? This week Alix speaks with Aiha Nguyen and Alexandra Mateescu, who recently authored Generative AI and Labor: Power, Hype, and Value at Work . They discuss how automation is now being use...
Regulating Privacy in an AI Era w/ Carly Kind 21.03.2025 1:00:47
This week Alix is speaking with her long-time friend and collaborator Carly Kind, who is now the privacy commissioner of Australia. Here’s something you may be embarrassed to ask: what does a privacy commissioner even do? We got you… Alix and Carly will discuss how privacy regs bump up against current trends in AI, how to incentivise compliance, and the limits of Australian privacy laws. **Subscri...
Dogwhistles: Networked Transphobia Online 14.03.2025 52:41
This week producer Georgia joins Alix to discuss something huge that we’ve yet to go deep on: the prevalence of trans misogyny online. This episode is jam-packed with four amazing guests to guide us through this rough terrain: Shivani Dave is a journalist and commentator who uses social media for their career and income. They share their experiences with receiving hate online, and having to balanc...
VCs Are World Eaters w/ Catherine Bracy 07.03.2025 47:30
This week Alix interviewed Catherine Bracy on her book World Eaters: How Venture Capital is Cannibalising the Economy . Support Catherine’s work and buy it NOW. Venture capital wasn’t always how it is today. But now it’s a driver of inequality, political and economic instability, and insufferable personalities. How did we get here and what might come next? In this conversation Catherine outlines h...
Power Over Precision w/ Jenny Reardon 28.02.2025 1:02:43
Alix’s conversation this week is with Jenny Reardon, who shares with us the history of genomics — and the absolutely mind-melting parallels it has with the trajectory of the AI industry. Jenny describes genomics as the industrialisation of genetics; it’s not just about understanding the genetic properties of humans, but mapping out every last inch of their genetic information so that it’s machine...
The Taiwan Bottleneck w/ Brian Chen 21.02.2025 37:10
Do you ever wonder how semiconductors (AKA chips) get made? Or why most of them are made in Taiwan? Or what this means for geopolitics? Luckily, this is a podcast for nerds like you. Alix was joined this week by Brian Chen from Data & Society, who systematically explains the process of advanced chip manufacture, how its thoroughly entangled in US economic policy, and how Taiwan’s place as the...
AI Safety’s Spiral of Urgency w/ Shazeda Ahmed 14.02.2025 55:55
Are you tired of hearing the phrase ‘AI Safety’ and rolling your eyes? Do you also sometimes think… okay but what is technically wrong with advocating for ‘safer’ AI systems? Do you also wish we could have more nuanced conversations about China and AI? In this episode Shazeda Ahmed goes deep on the field of AI Safety, explaining that it is a community that is propped up by its own spiral of reprod...
Live Show: Paris Post-Mortem 12.02.2025 46:39
Kapow! We just did our first ever LIVE SHOW. We barely had time to let the mics cool down before a bunch of you requested to have the recording on our pod feed so here we are. ICYMI : this is a recording from the live show that we did in Paris, right after the AI Action Summit. Alix sat down to have a candid conversation about the summit, and pontificate on what people might have meant when they k...
Defying Datafication w/ Dr Abeba Birhane (PLUS: Paris AI Action Summit) 07.02.2025 1:03:46
The Paris AI Action Summit is just around the corner! If you’re not going to be there, and you wish you were — we got you. We are streaming next week’s podcast LIVE from Paris on YouTube — register here 🎙️ On Tuesday, February 11th , at 6:30pm Paris time / 12:30pm EST , we’ll be recording our first-ever LIVE podcast episode . After two days at the French AI Action Summit, Alix will sit down with f...
DEI Season Finale: Part Two 31.01.2025 44:51
This week Alix continues her conversation with Hanna McCloskey and Rubie Clarke from Fearless Futures and we take a whistle-stop tour of the past 5 years. We start in 2020 with the disingenuous but huge embrace of DEI work by tech companies, to 2025 when those same companies are part of massive movements actively campaigning against it. The pair share what it was like running a DEI consultancy in...
DEI Season Finale: Part One 24.01.2025 46:51
DEI is a nebulous field — if you’re not in it, it can be hard to know which tactics and methods are reasonable and effective… and which are a total waste of time. Or worse: which are actively harmful. In this two-parter Alix is joined by Hanna McCloskey and Rubie Clarke from Fearless Futures. In this episode they share what DEI is and crucially, what it isn’t. Listen to understand why unconscious...
DEI: the final season + Alex Kotran on the Future of Education 17.01.2025 53:25
We have a special episode for you this week: we brought in Hanna Mccloskey and Rubie Clarke from Fearless Futures to talk about the recent announcement from Mark Zuckerberg which signalled, very strongly, that he doesn’t care about marginalised groups on his platforms — or within the company itself. We hear from Rubie and Hanna in the first half of the episode — and they will be back with us over...
To be Seen and not Watched w/ Tawana Petty 10.01.2025 45:39
Welcome back! Let us know what you think of the show and what you want to see more of in 2025 by writing in here , or rambling into a microphone here . In this episode Alix is joined by Tawana Petty, who shares her experiences coming up as a political community activist in Detroit. Tawana studied the history of radical black movements under Grace Lee Boggs, and has taken these learnings into her w...
Our learnings from 2024 20.12.2024 48:52
We’re wrapped for the year, and will be back on the 10th of Jan. In the meantime, listen to Alix, Prathm, and Georgia discuss their biggest learnings from the pod this year from some of their favourite episodes. **We want to hear from YOU about the podcast — what do you want to hear more of in 2025? Share your ideas with us here: https://tally.so/r/3E860B ** Or if you’d rather ramble into a microp...
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