HLS Environmental & Energy Law Program
CleanLaw
The Harvard Law School Environmental & Energy Law Program influences policy discussions about environmental, climate, and energy issues. EELP offers robust legal analysis and practical governance solutions that will move these discussions forward.
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May 7, 2026
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64—South Fork Wind Farm and Fisheries Management with Lowry Yankwich and Doug Christel 05.01.2022 53:16
Lowry Yankwich, a recent graduate of Harvard Law, speaks with Doug Christel, policy analyst for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Greater Atlantic Regional Fisheries Office. They discuss the approval of the South Fork Wind Project, which is only the second commercial-scale offshore wind project to be approved in federal waters. The project is small but has garnered outsized att...
63—EPA's Proposed Methane Rules with Kate Konschnik and Carrie Jenks 17.12.2021 40:34
Our executive director Carrie Jenks speaks with Kate Konschnik of Duke University about EPA’s recently proposed methane rules for new and existing oil and natural gas sources. They discuss some of the input EPA is seeking from stakeholders related to advanced technologies and how regulations could enable their deployment to achieve emission reductions. Learn more in our white paper, EPA’s Methane...
62-How Does Climate Change Relate to Market Risk? With Hana Vizcarra and Madison Condon 12.10.2021 29:16
Our staff attorney Hana Vizcarra speaks with Madison Condon, associate professor of law at Boston University who studies how climate change relates to corporate governance, market risk, and regulation. They discuss her research on how the market has failed to properly price climate risk and how the Securities and Exchange Commission might address that failure through new regulation. You can read M...
61-Petitions to the Supreme Court of the decision vacating ACE with Kevin Poloncarz and Carrie Jenks 06.09.2021 39:06
Our executive director Carrie Jenks speaks with Kevin Poloncarz, a partner at the law firm Covington and Burling. Kevin co-chairs the firm’s Environmental and Energy Practice Group, Energy Industry Group, and ESG Practice. Kevin and Carrie discuss what is at stake with the appeals to the Supreme Court of the D.C. Circuit decision to vacate the Trump Administration’s Affordable Clean Energy Rule fo...
60-A Human Rights View of Climate Change, Aminta Ossom and Hannah Perls 09.08.2021 46:07
Legal Fellow Hannah Perls speaks with Aminta Ossom, a Clinical Instructor at Harvard Law’s International Human Rights Clinic, where she focuses on equality, inclusion, and economic and social rights. They discuss how looking at environmental problems through a human rights lens can provide new insights and legal strategies for addressing environmental injustice in the United States and beyond. The...
59-Business Models for Distributed Energy Resources with Brandon Smithwood and Ari Peskoe 16.07.2021 46:51
Our Electricity Law Initiative Director Ari Peskoe speaks with Brandon Smithwood, Senior Director of Policy at Dimension Renewable Energy. They talk about business models for development of small-scale renewable energy and storage systems. Please see here for a transcript of this episode https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/CleanLaw-59-Ari-and-Brandon-Smithwood-on-Distributed-En...
58-Biden's first 100 Days on Climate and the Environment with Hana Vizcarra and Hannah Perls 03.06.2021 45:29
EELP Staff Attorney Hana Vizcarra and Fellow Hannah Perls talk about the progress of the Biden administration on climate and environmental priorities now that the first hundred days have passed. We originally posted this as a video, which you can view at the link below. Transcript of this episode https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/CleanLaw-58-Hannah-and-Hana-Assess-Biden-Progr...
57-Environmental Racism in NC Hog Farming Pt 2 w/Naeema Muhammad, Elizabeth Haddix, & Hannah Perls 22.04.2021 58:28
EELP Fellow Hannah Perls speaks with Naeema Muhammad and Elizabeth Haddix. Naeema is a life-long activist and the Organizing Co-Director of the North Carolina Environmental Justice Network, where she has worked for the past two decades leading state-wide campaigns and supporting grassroots efforts for environmental and social justice. Elizabeth is a Managing Attorney with the Lawyers’ Committee fo...
56 - Environmental Racism in NC Hog Farming with Naeema Muhammad, Alexis Andiman, & Hannah Perls 08.04.2021 1:02:20
In this episode EELP Fellow Hannah Perls spoke with Naeema Muhammad and Alexis Andiman. Naeema is a life-long activist and the Organizing Co-Director of the North Carolina Environmental Justice Network, where she has worked for the past two decades leading state-wide campaigns and supporting grassroots efforts for environmental and social justice. Alexis Andiman is a staff attorney with the Sustai...
Ep 55-Energy Utility Regulatory Frameworks and Climate Laws with Justin Gundlach& Elizabeth Stein 25.03.2021 53:44
Note: this episode was recorded in January, 2021. In this episode our staff attorney Caitlin McCoy was joined by Justin Gundlach and Elizabeth Stein to discuss their recent article "Harmonizing States' Energy Utility Regulation Frameworks and Climate Laws. A Case Study of New York." Justin is a senior attorney at the Institute for Policy Integrity at New York University School of Law. His work fo...
Ep 54 - Electric Utility Mergers and Industry Consolidation with Scott Hempling and Ari Peskoe 17.02.2021 57:28
Ari Peskoe, speaks with Scott Hempling, adjunct professor at the Georgetown University Law Center about Scott’s new book, Regulating Mergers and Acquisitions of the U.S. Electric Utilities: Industry Concentration and Corporate Complication. Scott has also written about FERC’s review of utility merger applications in a 2018 Energy Law Journal Article entitled Inconsistent with the Public Interest:...
Ep 53 - Climate Science, Communication, and Hope: Katharine Hayhoe and Joe Goffman 15.12.2020 46:42
In this episode our executive director Joe Goffman interviews climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe, director of the Texas Tech Climate Center and Professor in Public Policy and Public Law in the Department of Political Science. Professor Hayhoe talks about the cutting edge science of climate change attribution, how she tries to help the public understand the reality of climate change by making it lo...
Ep 52 - Carbon Pricing with Matto Mildenberger and Ari Peskoe 01.12.2020 39:44
In this episode, our Electricity Law Initiative director Ari Peskoe speaks with Matto Mildenberger, assistant professor of political science at the UC Santa Barbara, about the politics of carbon pricing. Note - we recorded this episode in late October, prior to the presidential election. This is a link to the article they discuss http://bostonreview.net/science-nature-politics/matto-mildenberger-l...
Ep 51 - Next Generation Environmental Regulations, Joe Goffman interviews Cynthia Giles 19.11.2020 59:32
In this episode, our executive director Joe Goffman speaks again with Cynthia Giles, our guest fellow and former Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance. They discuss her ongoing work examining how well environmental rules do in ensuring compliance with pollution and waste reduction requirements, where they fail, and how to make sure they succeed. You can f...
Episode 50: Erin Brockovich and Caitlin McCoy Talk about Community Advocacy and US Water Regulations 05.11.2020 48:53
In our 50th episode of CleanLaw, Erin Brockovich speaks with Caitlin McCoy about some of the major water issues in the U.S. today and what people can do to work toward better water quality in their communities and beyond. Their conversation covers community science, tips for effective advocacy, legacy water pollution issues, and the problems with current laws and regulations. Erin shares an inspir...
Episode 49: The Department of the Interior Rollbacks under Trump with Laura Bloomer and Robin Just 15.10.2020 33:57
Robin Just interviews our former EELP Fellow Laura Bloomer about changes in the Department of the Interior under the Trump administration. Laura interviewed dozens of former DOI career staff, former political appointees, and natural resources and American Indian law experts and distills their insights in our newest white paper - link below. She breaks down how these changes have been implemented,...
Episode 48: Caitlin and Aladdine Joroff on the MA AG's Decision on Local Natural Gas Usage Laws 01.09.2020 40:02
In this episode Caitlin McCoy talks with Aladdine Joroff, clinical instructor and staff attorney at our Emmett Environmental Law and Policy Clinic, about the recent decision by the Massachusetts Attorney General disapproving Brookline, MA’s law seeking to limit the use of natural gas in buildings, and comments the Clinic submitted on behalf of Mothers Out Front Massachusetts, arguing that Brooklin...
Episode 47: Joe Goffman & Francesca Dominici on Air Quality, Covid-19, and Black Communities 25.08.2020 42:20
"The progress is uneven. We are not cleaning the air in an even way for everybody." In this episode our executive director Joe Goffman speaks with Francesca Dominici, Professor of Biostatistics, Population, and Data Science at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Co-Director of the Harvard Data Science Initiative. They discuss her team’s state-of-the-art science that shows air polluti...
Episode 46: Joe Goffman and Sam Ricketts on Climate Change Policy Proposals 20.08.2020 51:50
In this episode Joe Goffman speaks with Sam Ricketts, senior fellow for Energy and Environment at the Center for American Progress and former climate director for the presidential campaign of Govrnor Jay Inslee. He now also serves as a co-founder of Evergreen, an organization created by Inslee campaign alumni to continue to deploy the policy, communications, and organizing tools of a political cam...
Episode 45: Hana Vizcarra and Kevin McClean on the Toxic Substances Control Act Revisions 27.07.2020 53:32
Hana Vizcarra speaks with Kevin McClean, former Associate General Counsel for EPA’s Pesticides and Toxic Substances Law Office, about chemical substances regulation and implementation of the 2016 revisions to the Toxic Substances Control Act. Transcript here https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/CleanLaw-45-Hana-and-Kevin-McLean-TSCA-Lautenberg.pdf Kevin's paper on TSCA after the...
Episode 44: Joe Goffman Speaks with Cynthia Giles about EPA's Enforcement Problems During COVID-19 29.06.2020 40:11
Recorded on May 7, Joe Goffman speaks with Cynthia Giles, former Assistant Administrator for EPA’s Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance, about EPA’s rollback of environmental enforcement in a COVID-19 enforcement discretion policy issued at the end of March 2020. This issue is still playing out: three lawsuits are pending about the March enforcement policy, and EPA has given some additio...
Episode 43: Ari Peskoe speaks with Leah Stokes about State Clean Energy Policies 18.06.2020 46:00
In this episode Ari Peskoe speaks with Leah Stokes, Professor of Political Science at UC Santa Barbara about state clean energy policies. Transcript https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/CleanLaw-43-Ari-and-Leah-Stokes-on-Interest-Groups-and-Utilities.pdf
Episode 42: Ari Peskoe talks about Attacks on Net Metering for Rooftop Solar 17.06.2020 23:19
Ari Peskoe, Director of our Electricity Law Initiative, describes a petition filed at FERC by a group calling itself the New England Ratepayers Association requesting that FERC find state-regulated net metering arrangements violate federal law and are therefore invalid. If FERC were to grant NERA’s petition, utilities across the country would likely press state regulators to change the rules that...
Episode 41: Caitlin McCoy and Bethany Davis Noll on Cost-Benefit Issues in the Clean Cars Rollback 27.05.2020 54:04
Caitlin McCoy is joined by Bethany Davis Noll, Litigation Director at the Institute for Policy Integrity at New York University Law School. They discuss the recently-finalized Safer Affordable Fuel-Efficient Vehicles Rule, which weakens fuel economy and GHG standards for cars and light trucks. They share some insights into the rule and how it could be challenged. A transcript of this episode is av...
Episode 40: Jody Freeman and Alex Griswold on Trump Environmental Rollbacks and Optimism 29.04.2020 19:06
In this episode Alex Griswold, a research associate at the Harvard University Center for the Environment, interviews Professor Jody Freeman, our founding director and also an independent director of ConocoPhillips. They talk about the Trump-era environmental rollbacks that are most troubling to Jody, and why she is still optimistic that we can do better. Transcript https://eelp.law.harvard.edu/wp-...
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