Mitu Gulati & Mark Weidemaier
Clauses & Controversies
Clauses and Controversies: A Podcast about International Finance, Contract Clauses and the Controversies Surrounding These Clauses
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Mitu Gulati & Mark Weidemaier
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Oct 12, 2026
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Ep 157 - Sovereign Debt Odd & Ends 12.05.2025 38:02
Sovereign Debt Odd & Ends An odds and ends podcast about unrelated sovereign debt topics. First up, Venezuela. Most investors have been sitting around waiting for an eventual restructuring and lifting of US sanctions. But a handful of funds sued early, got judgments, and have spent years trying unsuccessfully to collect. If they had succeeded, they would have recovered much more than similarly-sit...
Ep 156 - Is There Any Law of State Succession? (ft. Paul Stephan) 28.04.2025 46:06
Is There Any Law of State Succession? Syria, Ukraine and Greenland The law of state succession to obligations comes mostly from a different era, when war and conquest were legal and borders changed with some frequency. Today, we are faced with multiple situations where borders might change due to war. Does the law tell us what happens to the debts attributable to the acquired territory? And how do...
Ep 155 - What if Trump Discovers that Unpaid UK (and French) Debt From WWI? 30.03.2025 35:13
What if Trump Discovers that Unpaid UK (and French) Debt From WWI? The current administration has tossed concepts such as “special relationships” with allies out the window. The administration seems willing to apply just about any leverage it has to obtain concessions from allies, including concessions that might reduce the US debt. Seen in that light, what will happen when Trump and the Musketeer...
Ep 154 - What Might a Syrian Debt Restructuring (Eventually) Look Like? 23.03.2025 37:15
What Might a Syrian Debt Restructuring (Eventually) Look Like? There is little doubt that Syria needs to restructure its debt, among other reasons to pave the way for rebuilding after a long and brutal civil war. It strikes us as too early to envision what that process will look like, but we can identify some of the key issues. The country owes a lot to official creditors, especially Iran and Russ...
Ep 153 - User Fees on the US Treasury Strategic Gold Crypto Reserve 16.03.2025 37:48
User Fees on the US Treasury Strategic Gold Crypto Reserve Trump plans to reduce the US debt. We are missing some of the steps, but here are the ones we have identified so far: 1. Golden passports 2. Tariffs 3. Maybe not tariffs 4. Okay, tariffs 5. Something about gold 6. User fee on treasuries 7. Crypto 8. ??? We speculate about what we are missing. Maybe it’s a red Tesla? Producer: Leanna Doty
Ep 152 - Why Do We Care Who is Behind HRB’s Sri Lankan Lawsuit? 02.03.2025 26:42
Why Do We Care Who is Behind HRB’s Sri Lankan Lawsuit? The Hamilton Bank litigation against Sri Lanka appears to be reaching the end. Or is it? The stays that were granted during restructuring talks have implications for future sovereign debt restructurings, we think. Especially Venezuela’s restructuring, which is going to be a huge undertaking. And then, there may be more drama to come in the HRB...
Ep 151 - Greece’s (Ratings) Rise – Wow, but also How? (ft. Sarah Carlson & Elena Duggar) 16.02.2025 39:25
Greece’s (Ratings) Rise From the Ashes – Wow, but also How? We study sovereign restructurings, which means we primarily study countries going into and struggling to get out of crisis. Serial defaulters such as Argentina and Ecuador are frequent topics on our podcasts. And given how bad things were a decade ago, and its history of frequent defaults before that, we might have expected that Greece wo...
Ep 150 - Getting "J. Screwed" Sounds Better than Getting "Argentina'd" (ft. Andrew Kissner) 02.02.2025 47:06
Getting "J. Screwed" Sounds Better than Getting "Argentina'd" In the world of corporate debt, everyone seems to be talking about "Liability Management Exercises," where a borrower, with a subset of creditors, exploits loose loan covenants in ways that leave other creditors screaming mad. Even better, these LME techniques have clever names: "trap doors," getting "J. Screwed," etc. And while the wor...
Ep 149 - Is Sri Lanka’s Loss Reinstatement Provision a Penalty? 19.01.2025 44:13
Is Sri Lanka’s Loss Reinstatement Provision a Penalty? Two of our favorite things to talk about are innovative contract clauses and ancient illogical contract doctrines that unexpectedly bite in the ass. A few weeks ago, we walked through the Loss Reinstatement provisions for Ghana and Zambia. We asked the question of whether those provisions might run afoul of the antiquated and bizarre (to us) a...
Ep 148 - Sri Lanka's New MFC Clause — Have "Contorts" Arrived in Sovereign Debt? 05.01.2025 49:49
Sri Lanka's New MFC Clause — Have "Contorts" Arrived in Sovereign Debt? The doctrine of tortious interference with contracts is one of several that sits at the intersection of tort and contract law. These "contorts" confuse law students — lawyers and law professors too! — but can be important in practice. If not anticipated, they can create problems for unsuspecting parties and lawyers. Has Sri La...
Ep 147 - YPF and Argentina’s Contributions to International Law (ft. Paul Stephan) 30.11.2024 47:48
YPF and Argentina’s Contributions to International Law Argentina owes over $16 billion in connection with its nationalization of state oil company YPF. A federal judge in the Southern District of New York is considering whether to order Argentina to hand over its shares in YPF — technically located outside the United States — to pay part of the judgment. Can it do that? Paul Stephan (Virginia) joi...
Ep 146 - The Penalty Doctrine in Contract Law 04.11.2024 37:08
The Penalty Doctrine in Contract Law We've never been fans of the contract law rule against penalties. Why can't parties (sophisticated ones at least) agree to suffer a penalty in the event of breach? We’d ordinarily avoid this topic, because the doctrine makes little sense and the issue doesn’t come up much in the sovereign debt world. But recently, a couple of sovereign restructurings (Ghana and...
Ep 145 - A New Competition For Law (and Jurisdiction)? 07.10.2024 30:37
A New Competition For Law (and Jurisdiction)? Jurisdictions famously compete for businesses to use their corporate law. Less discussed is the competition for having one’s law chosen to govern contracts. But it happens. Sovereign debt lawyers in England and New York can, if they have a few drinks in them, can be quite entertaining in their sniping at each other about whether English or New York law...
Ep 144 - An Execution Sale is Not a Receivership. (Right?) (ft. Nate Oman) 30.09.2024 35:00
An Execution Sale is Not a Receivership. (Right?) Creditors of Venezuela and PDVSA, its state oil company, have forced an execution sale of PDVSA's only US asset – which happens to be the ultimate parent company of CITGO. The federal judge overseeing the process has tried to keep things orderly, but the inter-creditor fighting is getting juicy. Some lower priority creditors have filed new lawsuits...
Ep 143 - Hamilton Bank v. Sri Lanka: What the $@#$ ? 23.09.2024 36:08
Hamilton Bank v. Sri Lanka: What the $@#$ ? Accusations that Hamilton Bank is a giant fraudster stealing depositor funds, bizarro requests from Hamilton to the court that other creditors be constrained in using their contract rights against it, an amicus intervention in the case to say nothing at all . . . and on and on. This case gets more and more bizarre, which makes us suspect that whatever is...
Ep 142 - Zambia’s Restructuring: A Post-Mortem (ft. Theo Maret) 09.09.2024 40:02
Zambia’s Restructuring: A Post-Mortem Zambia’s recently concluded restructuring seemed to drag on forever, debilitated by conflicts among the various creditor groups. Why did these different groups think the others were being unreasonable in their demands? And what can we learn from what happened? Our guest is one of the keenest observers in the sovereign debt world, who followed this restructurin...
Ep 141 - The Champerty Show 02.09.2024 36:22
The Champerty Show Ah, Champerty. Perpetual runner-up, to the doctrine of consideration, in the Stupidest Legal Rule pageant. Why do directly (e.g., via the abuse of process claim) what you can do clumsily and indirectly (by limiting an injured party’s access to finance)? But what do we know? Actually, not much. We do know that Venezuela/PDVSA won a very interesting Champerty case in the Southern...
Ep 140 - IMF Rescues Pakistan From the Brink of Default (Again) (ft. Zohra Ahmed) 26.08.2024 36:26
IMF Rescues Pakistan From the Brink of Default (Again) Pakistan looks to be in the process of finalizing yet another IMF program. Yet again, it has been rescued from the brink of default with a bailout justified by some heroic assumptions about how a state of sustainability will magically materialize. Why? Our guest, Zohra Ahmed, of Boston University Law School, has a theory: that these bailouts (...
Ep 139 - A Better Way to Freeze (and Seize?) Russian Assets? (ft. Oona Hathaway) 19.08.2024 44:21
A Better Way to Freeze (and Seize?) Russian Assets? Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, there has been talk of what international law doctrines might be utilized to induce Russia to back off. One of those doctrines that has been whispered about is now, thanks to a wonderful new article by our guest, international law guru and Yale Law professor, Oona Hathaway, is that of Countermeasures. Oo...
Ep 138 - Cambodia’s Debts to the US: How “Dirty” Are They? (ft. Randle DeFalco) 12.08.2024 39:34
Cambodia’s Debts to the US: How “Dirty” Are They? Roughly a half century ago, in the 1970s, the US infamously bombed Cambodia. Less known is that the US, through a “Food for Peace” program, made a series of loans to the somewhat dodgy government of General Lon Nol. The loans were made, at least in part, to assist Cambodians displaced by the bombings. Fast forward a few decades, the US government p...
Ep 137 - Ukraine's Preliminary Debt Restructuring Deal (ft. Joseph Cotterill) 05.08.2024 43:09
Ukraine's Preliminary Debt Restructuring Deal Ukraine reportedly has reached terms with a subset of its bondholders, agreeing to restructure the country's roughly $24 billion in bond debt. What to make of the deal? It seems (to our view) to be premised on the IMF's entirely unrealistic assumptions about Ukraine's future debt repayment capacity. The reports we have seen about deal terms also don't...
Ep 136 - Tortious Interference and Inter-Creditor Duties (ft. Andrew Wilkinson) 20.05.2024 43:48
Tortious Interference and Inter-Creditor Duties Creditors in sovereign debt restructurings often complain about other creditors. And creditors often try to limit what other creditors get (at least indirectly, via most favored nations clauses, comparability of treatment, etc.). Can these efforts sometimes create a risk of liability? Does that risk even extend to official creditors? In the recent Za...
Ep 135 - El Salvador’s Warrants: Bukele’s Folly? (ft. Ben Heller) 29.04.2024 33:27
El Salvador’s Warrants: Bukele’s Folly? El Salvador has issued a new bond, using part of the proceeds to buy back some bonds that mature in the relatively near term. The issuance includes a detachable warrant that pays up to an additional 4% if El Salvador does not get an IMF program in place soon (or achieve a higher credit rating). The issuance has been characterized as a way to convince investo...
Ep 134 - The Latest in the Argentine GDP Warrant Saga: Drafting Goof or Sneaky Drafting? 15.04.2024 30:54
The Latest in the Argentine GDP Warrant Saga: Drafting Goof or Sneaky Drafting? There are so many intriguing aspects of the latest installment of the Argentine GDP Warrant Saga. This time, from Judge Preska in the SDNY, Argentina scores a big, and for us, totally unexpected victory. Argentina’s lawyers, at a very late stage, discovered a magic bullet that no one seems to have realized was there. M...
Ep 133 - Lessons from the 1980s Debt Crisis (ft. Jerome Sgard) 08.04.2024 44:26
Lessons from the 1980s Debt Crisis The 1980s debt crisis began in Mexico and engulfed countries around the world, leading, via the Brady Plan, to the revival of the bond markets. Beyond that, we confess to relatively little knowledge about this fundamental episode in sovereign debt history. For so many of the leading lights of the contemporary sovereign debt world, the Latin American debt crisis w...
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