Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, Tory Gavito, hosted by Kerry Eleveld and produced by the Way to Win team
Charting the Way Forward
Research-informed strategy and intelligence from across the winning Democratic coalition, with Way to Win cofounders Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and guest appearances from the broader center-left cinematic universe. Hosted by Kerry Eleveld.
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Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, Tory Gavito, hosted by Kerry Eleveld and produced by the Way to Win team
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Jul 9, 2026
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Urgency and Agency (feat. Glennis Meagher) 19.06.2025 43:48
Maddie Medved takes the reins while Kerry is out, for a discussion of all things internet with social media guru Glennis Meagher and Way to Win Chief Strategist Jenifer Fernandez Ancona.
Say Nothing and You Confirm Their Version of Events (feat. Molly Murphy) 12.06.2025 34:07
MAJOR POLL DROP! We worked with Impact Research on a poll that should put a stake through the heart of the conventional wisdom that immigration is a "bad issue for Dems" that they need to avoid "raising the salience of." Impact President Molly Murphy joins host Kerry Eleveld and Tory Gavito, Joe Hamill, and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona from the Way to Win team to discuss the clear...
Vikings, Tequila Shots and the DNC (feat. Chuck Rocha) 05.06.2025 56:47
Democratic überconsultant Chuck Rocha has won a ton of elections and he has ANSWERS. He joins the all-star roundtable of host Kerry Eleveld, strategist Kristian Ramos and Way to Win head Tory Gavito for a discussion of how Dems can reach not just Latinos, but voters of all stripes and beliefs.
Maybe We're Not Cooked?! (feat. Michael Frias) 29.05.2025 47:53
Fresh off the release of the kaleidoscopic and deep Catalist voter-file based analysis of the 2024, Catalist chief Michael Frias joins host Kerry Eleveld and strategists Joe Hamill and Kristian Ramos for a discussion that goes far beyond just the contents of the report.
Checks and Imbalances (feat. Brian Derrick) 22.05.2025 57:47
Think your $25 donation doesn’t move the needle? Think again. In this episode, host Kerry Eleveld and the big strategy panel of Tory Gavito, Jenifer Ancona and Maddie Medved sit down with Brian Derrick, founder of Oath, to unpack how small-dollar giving is quietly transforming political power when it’s done right, and what the potential is for the future.
Charting a New Way Forward. No, really. (feat. Kyle Tharp) 15.05.2025 58:06
Host Kerry Eleveld and media analyst and strategist Dan Ancona talk to Kyle "Chaotic Era" Tharp about the release of TV Congress 2024, Way to Win's interactive tracking database of political TV ads.
We're a Bigger Tent (feat. Cornell Belcher) 08.05.2025 57:07
Veteran Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher joins us for a riveting discussion of how to reconstitute a winning Democratic coalition from the ground up, starting with men of color who voted for Biden in 2020 but then skipped 2024. It's a must listen, drawing from Belcher's deep expertise on how Democrats have won in the past and can do so again.
Behold, The Mother of All Persuasion Windows Openeth 01.05.2025 45:50
Join Kerry and Tory, Maddie and Dan from the Way to Win team for a roundtable discussion on this remarkable moment in history, the opportunity it presents, and what some of the barriers in the thinking of the DC establishment are to seizing it. The show nearly goes off the rails at the news about Little House on the Prairie being a right wing media op, but the crew bravely holds it together and so...
All Trees, No Forest (feat. Dan Pfeiffer) 24.04.2025 57:01
Dan "The Message Box" Pfeiffer joins Kerry and Jenifer for Part 2 of our Understanding the Missing Biden Voters series, including sound from our focus groups, their thoughts on the Harris and Trump campaigns, and the prospects for 2026 and beyond.
Understanding the Missing Biden Voters 17.04.2025 45:26
We have focus group sound! We worked with Lake Research to talk to four groups of battleground voters that voted for Biden in 2020 and then didn't vote in 2024. Join Kerry and Jenifer as they walk through our conversations with these voters, their background views on 2024, and their thoughts on the parties and Trump oligarchy and deportations. Coming next week: more from these voters, includi...
The Four Fs: Fight, Fascism, Freedom and F*ck 10.04.2025 1:06:33
Another episode, another genius: this week we have on long time DC operative Joe Sudbay with insights from both DC and the incredible, accelerating momentum happening in the states. Host Kerry Eleveld, and Tory Gavito and Kristian Ramos round out the roundtable.
The Hunger for Strong and Meaningful Opposition (feat. Rep Greg Casar) 03.04.2025 53:12
Something, finally, seems to be shifting. Join the Charting gang - Kerry, Kristian, and Maddie - as they catch up with Rep Greg Casar of Texas to talk about his experience at the Bernie and AOC Fight Oligarchy Tour, and the recent raft of vastly improved and more emotionally resonant arguments coming from Dems.
Zero Sum Politics ⚠️ And the Future Of The Dem Coalition (featuring Terrance Woodbury from HIT Strategies) 27.03.2025 46:30
Continuing our series of having incredibly smart people on the show, join host Kerry Eleveld with a panel discussion featuring Terrance Woodbury of HIT Strategies, Tory Gavito, and Kristian Ramos for a deep discussion of Black voters and broader Democratic coalition dynamics post-2024.
Absurd! Not True! Feat. Anat Shenker-Osorio 20.03.2025 1:10:04
Join host Kerry Eleveld and messaging and strategy guru Anat Shenker-Osorio for a rich and not very doomy conversation on the strategically critical and awesomely fun direct action scene, some hot sizzling fresh focus group results, and how the 2024 results are shaping tactical decisions of activists across the US trying to persuade DC Dems to save our democracy.
To Moderate Or Not To Moderate, That Is The Question 13.03.2025 51:21
With Democratic enterprises of great pith and moment currents beginning to turn awry and lose the name of action, Kerry hosts, as Dan and Jenifer join for a reunion tour of their brief foray into streaming, The What's Possible Show. Conscience makes cowards of us all as they discuss recent research around the biggest single strategic question facing Democrats: is more moderation really what i...
Making it Stick, feat. Creator/Strategist Annie Wu Henry 06.03.2025 40:48
We gave Kristian and Kerry the unenviable task of trying make some kind of sense out of Trump's weird, awful joint address. After they pilot the ship relatively painlessly through those waves and reefs, Kerry interviews Annie with a hopeful and substantive look at how Dems are starting the utterly crucial work of finding their voices.
Republicans Take The First Bite of a Toxic 💩 Sandwich 27.02.2025 49:33
Join host Kerry Eleveld with updates on polling, Maddie Medved with reports from the social wildlands, Jenifer Fernandez Ancona's thoughts on media and strategy, and Kristian Ramos with reports from the Hill as Republicans prepare to pass a budget gutting critical programs for the sole purpose of handing somehow even larger piles of money over to guys like Elon Musk.
The Media Gap and the Mechanics of Vibes (feat. Will Stancil) 20.02.2025 53:45
This episode features something daring, groundbreaking and unheard of in American political podcasting: a discussion between two white guys. While the usual team is out on a strategy retreat, Dan Ancona pinch-hosts for Kerry in a discussion about the right wing media gap and what Dems need to better understand about how vibes are generated and transmitted, with sayer of obvious truths that somehow...
Evolving A Stronger Resistance in 2025 (feat. Leah Greenberg of Indivisible) 13.02.2025 47:21
If you have a sense whatever the resistance did during Trump's first term didn't quite work out, you're not alone. Big changes and wild growth are happening already in this new reality, and Leah Greenberg from Indivisible is at the center of one of the organizations harnessing a massive influx of new energy. Join her and host Kerry Eleveld for a crucial and surprisingly hopeful big...
Will Caving to Trump Fix Democrats Massive Trust Issues? 06.02.2025 52:22
Join host Kerry Eleveld, Way to Win ED Tory Gavito, Latino Guru Kristian Ramos, and Research/Media/Strategy Dude Dan Ancona for a roundtable discussion on pathways out of the Democratic Party's massive trust deficit and catastrophically high unfavorables, starting with separating out what the right wing is saying about Dems vs. what is actually happening.
The New Generational Fight Against Oligarchy 30.01.2025 49:51
Join Kristian Ramos, Tory Gavito and Jenifer Fernandez Ancona for a discussion tying this week's news to big picture trends and context. Don't miss moments include Kristian's updates from his conversations on Capitol Hill, Jenifer's concise explanation of the challenge and urgency in front of us, and Tory's thoughts on how the tensions between immigration and moderate whit...
The Missing 19 Million Biden Voters and The Pilgrimage Out of Flatland (feat. Mike Podhorzer) 23.01.2025 41:03
Kerry and Jenifer join a special guest, renowned Democratic strategist Mike Podhorzer, to discuss the controversy over his take on the 2024 election outcome.
We Love the Smell of Fresh Polling Data Early in the Morning 13.12.2024 42:31
Journey further into the heart of 2024 election darkness, and the longer term and economic roots of the challenges that Democrats need to either face or continue being dragged down by. A discussion of Way to Win's recent round of polling President Tory Gavito, Chief Strategy Officer Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and host Kerry Eleveld.
Joe Rogan, Barstool and Tradwives vs 100 Duck Sized AMPLIFY Horses 21.11.2024 50:03
Charting the Way Forward Episode 4: Join host Kerry Eleveld, rising social media guru Maddie Medved, and extremely senior media strategist Dan Ancona for a discussion of the core challenges the Harris campaign failed to address, how and why those awful trans ads actually worked (it's not what you think!), and the incredible but under the radar creators and influencers campaign that Way to Win...
WTAF Just Happened?? 15.11.2024 48:44
A conversation about the 2024 election results with host Kerry Eleveld, Way to Win Head of Strategy Jenifer Fernandez Ancona, and Latino vote expert Kristian Ramos.
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