Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, New Models
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Jul 5, 2026
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Making Web3 human legible, constructive speculation and the shock of the nude with Context 18.02.2022 1:45:33
Hey y'all, after many references to this project in previous episodes we are really happy to welcome Adam and Luke from Context! We discuss their efforts to make Web3 activity legible to humans, debate criticisms of the speculative nature of the Web3 art space, discuss the antecedent of drop culture, the shockwaves caused by making previously hidden financial activity transparent, and the potentia...
NM Shorts: Indie Sleaze w/ Taylore Scarabelli 16.02.2022 34:42
Fashion critic and Interview magazine Senior Editor TAYLORE SCARABELLI speaks to New Models about the much-reported Indie Sleaze revival, sharing insights on its physical re-emergence in IRL NYC. Read Taylore’s related essay in Interview's March print issue (and via link below). Intro monologue: “Indieverse” by LIL INTERNET, co-written with Carly Busta. Outro music: SLUTTT x Passions "Dead by 25"...
NM Special Report: Kyiv Update (Feb 8) w/ Anastasiya Osipova 11.02.2022 46:19
Anastasiya Osipova, a scholar of Soviet and contemporary Russian Culture at the University of Colorado Boulder and co-founder of Cicada Press, speaks with NM from Kyiv, sharing her first-person insights on the Ukrainian/Russian border conflict as well as what the prospect of war does to one’s ability to communicate clearly, and how that shift impacts a society over time. Recorded in 2 parts: Jan 2...
Reads: The “Anarcho-Liberal”, Can Jokes Bring Down Governments?, Capitalist Realism 10.02.2022 38:29
The “Anarcho-Liberal” by Bhaskar Sunkara https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/the-anarcho-liberal Can Jokes Bring Down Governments? by Metahaven https://www.amazon.com/Can-Jokes-Bring-Down-Governments/dp/099291468X Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher (Live from the PC Bed) https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/our-books/capitalist-realism
Hyperstructures & the future of ZORA with Jacob.eth 10.02.2022 1:53:38
Jacob from ZORA runs us through his latest essay, Hyperstructures, and the future of ZORA protocol. We pull apart how permissionless protocols and cc0 projects are gathering significant momentum and what this might mean for the future of the internet and art making! We also dive down the rabbit hole of some pretty psychedelic NFT use cases. Super fun and enriching as ever. Hope you are all having...
Transitioning to Web 3 by building a research DAO with Cherie Hu (Water & Music) 03.02.2022 1:33:22
Hey everyone! This week we host the inimitable Cherie Hu to discuss the evolution of Water & Music into the first contributor led research DAO for the music industry, the changing definitions and focus of music & technology, Tik Tok and the politics (and occasional burden) of relatability. It was fun and revealing to work through the particularities and practicalities of making the jump in...
NM Shorts: Bjarne Melgaard's Cryptoverse 02.02.2022 16:59
Norwegian artist BJARNE MELGAARD speaks to New Models about his foray into the cryptoverse with his first NFT project, Lightbulb Man — which, in true Melgaard-form, touches the limits of trust in a so-called trustless system. For more: https://lightbulbman.com/
Video Wrap w/ Jacob Hurwitz-Goodman 01.02.2022 31:24
I join Jacob in the editing room. https://www.patreon.com/faroffsounds http://jacobhg.com/ https://means.tv/programs/faroffsounds
Channel Season 0 Roundtable 25.01.2022 22:20
As many might know, we have been working for the past year on a way to slowly migrate away from patreon through a self funded software initiative called channel. Nothing is changing here in the short term, we will continue to post on patreon and appreciate all your support immeasurably. This episode provides a primer on what channel is, why we are squadding up with Joshua Citarella and New Model...
Channel Roundtable 1 25.01.2022 22:20
Season 0 this week, Joshua Citarella, Interdependence, and New Models sat down to discuss why they're squading up, what this new protocol offers next gen creators, and how Web3 will fundamentally change the flows of media. https://www.channel.xyz/ https://twitter.com/channel/ https://www.instagram.com/channel__xyz/
Angela Nagle on Elites and Institutions 19.01.2022 1:21:42
Angela Nagle discusses Millennial values, Silicon Valley ideology, NGO’s and moral fanaticism.
Permanently archiving music and its context with Nina 13.01.2022 2:03:09
A wonderful conversation with Jack Callahan, Eric Farber and Mike Pollard of Nina, who are building a protocol for permanent collections of music on the fast and affordable Solana Blockchain. Made all the more special that we come from similar experimental music scenes, we discuss the critical importance of establishing and archiving context for marginal musics, Myspace data loss and the revival...
"Baddieverse" by LIL INTERNET 10.01.2022 10:23
In this monologue, Lil Internet ponders the rise and rise of the BADDIE—past, present, and future—and whether the metaverse will render the Baddie Body Industrial Complex obsolete, or open a golden gateway to Baddie transcendence. For more LIL INTERNET radio plays and all New Models content, join https://patreon.com/newmodels and check out our new project, https://channel.xyz
Trust x SSSC: Portal Readings 04.01.2022 52:09
We join Trust in a cross-discord live event. Joanna Pope guides us through a classic text by Vilem Flusser: selections from “Towards a Philosophy of Photography” (1983). https://trustsupport.notion.site/PORTAL-READINGS-Super-Secret-Sleeper-Cell-617381da96814bb395e12310e6fadb10 Trust is a knowledge community and co-working space in Berlin. Find them online at: https://trust.support/ https://www.i...
Stories told about technology, context as medium and reanimating dot-com companies with Simon Denny 29.12.2021 1:46:45
We invited artist Simon Denny over to our studio for the final podcast of the year to go deep on his practice, a commitment to exploring context as a medium, making crypto art and exhibitions before everyone cared, and Dotcom Seance, his wild new art project on Folia. A perfect guest to close out the year! We will be taking a break for the first week of January to focus on something big to be anno...
Josh and Dorian at the Gates of Hell: Trapped in the Reagan Library 29.12.2021 43:15
We visited an IRL theme park of Neoliberalism.
EP 40: NOW IN 4-D w/ Nora Khan & Joel Kuennen 19.12.2021 54:30
In which we speak with writer/critic NORA KHAN and artist/writer JOEL KUENNEN about deep time, rethinking the human in an era of accelerated machine learning, and recognizing the truly experimental in a culture increasingly bound by “aligned incentives.” The conversation took place at La Becque artist residency on the shores of Lake Geneva, where Nora and Joel have been developing two new books an...
Ethereum Energy Numbers are in! Moral calculations and web 3 critiques with Kyle McDonald 17.12.2021 1:45:02
Big one this week, artist and researcher Kyle McDonald did the gruelling work to calculate the energy and carbon cost of Ethereum, and we try to break down those numbers, calculate their relative impact, discuss critiques of web 3 and debate why they are mostly coming from where they are coming from. Ethereum Emissions: https://kylemcdonald.github.io/ethereum-emissions/ Kyle's art: https://kylem...
Choose your Illusion; financial precarity, meme stocks and disinfo with Ali Breland (Mother Jones) 09.12.2021 1:52:24
We had a long and wonderful chat with Ali after reading his "Who Goes Crypto?" piece on the increasing number of working people opting into investing money into the casino crypto and meme stocks rather than adhere to crumbling narratives over how the economy works, and for whom. We also dive into an area of his expertise, online disinformation and it's political ramifications. Holly dips out half...
Studio Visit w/ Brad Troemel 09.12.2021 26:17
I visited Brad in his studio to talk about art, platforms and political speech. https://www.instagram.com/bradtroemel/?hl=en https://www.patreon.com/bst https://twitter.com/BradTroemel
EP 39: PAINTINGS BY NUMBERS w/ @jerrygogosian's Hilde Lynn Helphenstein & Matthew Capasso 07.12.2021 1:24:52
Over the past year, speculation has surged beyond business media to emerge as a broad-spectrum cultural theme — think Gamestop, Robinhood, tokenized communities, the rise of NFT art. Reflecting on this phenomenon, NM speaks with the gonzo art world/ art market reporter behind @jerrygogosian, artist HILDE LYNN HELPHENSTEIN as well as MATTHEW CAPASSO, formerly of Christies and now director of Fairch...
Faraday Speaks on Extremism and Radicalization 01.12.2021 47:25
Caleb Cain discusses radical pipelines, counter-messaging, game theory and political factions. www.youtube.com/c/FaradaySpeaks/videos twitter.com/faradayspeaks?lang=en www.patreon.com/Faradayspeaks
NM Special Report: UX (Feat. dev/designer Jon Lucas) 01.12.2021 33:25
We are joined by the guardian angel of New Models' digital presence, designer and developer JON LUCAS. With clients ranging from PIN-UP magazine to Bjarne Melgaard to SOPHIE (†), Jon shares with us reflections on his practice at large, as well as the origins and future of https://newmodels.io For more: jon-l.com @jonlucaswebites
Unlocking a sustainable open source culture, public goods and other interdependencies with Scott Moore (Gitcoin) 30.11.2021 1:40:41
We've been wanting to have this conversation for some time! Scott Moore joins us to discuss Gitcoin's efforts to sustain open source developers, the emerging culture shock between late 20th century free software ideologies and new proposals to get developers paid (which parallels a lot of the culture shock happening in the art and music world rn), discuss the role crypto may play in funding and su...
NM GREENROOM Ep 4: ADR (AARON DAVID ROSS) 25.11.2021 59:44
Artist and composer ADR (Aaron David Ross) stops by NM on the occasion of his new album, Filter Failure and launch of his label with Gatekeeper partner Matthew Arkell, Legendarium. Reflecting on his past decade of cultural production—see: Safdie Brothers’ Uncut Gems, Grant Singer’s iconic 2012 cult short, IRL; collaborations with Dis, Kelela, Lafawndah, Mykki Blanco, Ryan Trecartin, Telfar, Korakr...
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