Chamomile & Clove

While covering Chapter 37-39 of Shadow of Night, Cait and Jen discuss the bittersweet beauty of Stephen Proctor, the difficulty of denying who you are, and the ethics of time travel. The next episode will cover Episode 1x01 of A Discovery of Witches TV -- please join us for our live tweet of 1x01 at 9PM EST on 1/1/19. If you like what we do, consider supporting us on Patreon!

In this episode, we tackle Section V of Shadow of Night and talk about Diana's character growth, Cait's psyche, antagonists, and sanism. If you have thoughts, questions, queries, or suggestions for our Shadow of Night wrap episodes, now is the time!

In Episode 34, Cait and Jen hurtle towards the end of Shadow of Night while discovering the True Secret of Secrets and escaping from the court of Rudolf in Prague. There's talk of denouements, epigraphs, flash forwards, and ALL THAT PLOT as they close Section IV and get ready for Section V. You can join the conversation in the Facebook group -- the Chamomile & Clove Clovers -- or e-mail the show a...

In this episode, we talk about Chapters 29-30 of Shadow of Night while meeting new characters (Rabbi Loew! Lobero!) and er, tolerating our favorites (CHRIST, MATTHEW). There's talk about intimacy, literary craft, and a healthy dose of pop culture C&C bingo to get us through Prague. Enjoy!

This week, we dive straight into Section IV of Shadow of Night and discuss the wonders of Prague, Rudolf's naughty closet, hose before bros, and why everyone carries a torch for Gallowglass.  We hope you have as much fun as we did -- stay tuned for the outtake after the end music. We might have gone a bit off the rails while recording -- it happens. 

It's time to leave London and say goodbye to the highs and lows of Section III of Shadow of Night. In this episode, Cait and Jen discuss lost plots, midpoints, toxic masculinity, antagonists, and more. Enjoy!

TRIGGER WARNING: Some content in this episode may not be suitable for all listeners. In this episode, we discuss Diana's pregnancy and miscarriage -- please use discretion in deciding whether this episode is appropriate for you.  In Episode 30, "The Symbolism Buffet," Cait and Jen discuss the joys, challenges, and contradictions of Chapter 23 of Shadow of Night. There's talk of identity, witchcraf...

In Episode 29, Cait and Jen giggle their way through Chapters 21-22 of Shadow of Night. While the show is definitely sillier than usual, there's plenty to say about identity, self care, feminism, the good (and bad) tropes of vampire fiction, partnership, and biting. Yes, biting. Enjoy the show!

In Episode 28, it's time to talk about Chapters 18-20 of Shadow of Night, including the changing mechanics of Diana's powers, the introduction of Phoebe Taylor, and what to do with an ill-mannered 16th century husband. There's character introductions, a bit of sweetness, and of course, just a little bit of magic. Happy Mabon and autumnal equinox to all those who celebrate. We hope you enjoy the ep...

In this episode, special guest Jennifer Covel (@atinykaiju) helps Cait and Jen answer the lingering questions from All Souls Con. There's Corra, there's Diana, and there's the dangerous distraction of Matthew in riding boots. Rawr. Enjoy!

In this episode, we cover chapters 15-17 of Shadow of Night. Cait and Jen travel back to England with Diana and Matthew where hijinks of snakes, bees, and pregnancy ensue. Join the conversation on our Facebook group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers, or by emailing us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com.

In Episode 25, Cait and Jen wrap up the discussion of Section II of Shadow of Night by celebrating Matthew and Diana's THIRD and MOST EFFECTIVE wedding. It's light and wonderful and then there's naughty time and things go a bit off the rails. Join the conversation in our Facebook group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers , or e-mail us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains content about  suicide, assisted suicide, and depression .  In Episode 24,  The Trauma Train , we do our best to navigate the devastating landscape of Chapters 10 and 11 of Shadow of Night. We had so much to say, we barely fit it into  three hours of recording. You heard me. There's partnership, sacrifice, redemption, responsibility, forgiveness, and growth i...

In this episode, we talk about Chapters 8-9 of Shadow of Night and find our way through the cold to Sept Tours and  Philippe. This makes both of us exceptionally happy... until Matthew steps in things in Chapter 8, at least. Join as as we talk about patriarchy, authority, dominance, power, and growing up in our latest episode. 

In this episode, we wrap Part I of Shadow of Night by revisiting our discussion of toxic masculinity, unpicking the dynamics of Matthew's relationship with Kit, and opening up the question of structure and storytelling in this unusual book. Join the conversation by finding us on Twitter, sending us an e-mail, or by becoming a member of our Facebook discussion group.

In this episode, Cait and Jen tackle Chapters 4 and 5 of Shadow of Night, where we meet a few new characters, wrestle with the patriarchy, and realize that our goals are neither so clear--nor so easily obtained--as we thought.  We hope you enjoy this episode and look forward to hearing from you on Facebook, via e-mail, and on Twitter.   

Y'all, middles are hard. Shadow of Night is a complicated, compelling, difficult, and rewarding book - we can't wait to pick it over with you! In this episode, we discuss Chapters 1-3 of SON, as well as unnecessary vowels, good people, bad people (and Kit), and whether you ought to expect a historian of alchemy to know anything about bum rolls.   If you'd like to join the conversation, follow us o...

In our second wrap episode for A Discovery of Witches, we talk about character arcs, protagonists and antagonists, and the results of our listener polls! Grab your copies of Shadow of Night - we'll have our first chapter discussion on June 3, 2018. In the meantime, e-mail us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com,  follow us on Twitter @chamomilenclove, or join our Facebook Group, the Chamomile & Clov...

In our first wrap episode for A Discovery of Witches, we dig deep into structure, conflict, time travel theory, and our favorite things about this remarkable book. 

We did it, guys! We made it to the last three chapters of Deborah Harkness's A Discovery of Witches. In this episode, we talk about service and survival, love and accountability, wobbly time loops, and what to do with a quince. Next episode? Wrap-up discussion!

In Episode 16, Cait and Jen discuss the aftermath of Juliette's death and the impact it has on the rest of the story. There's found family, structure, character, heteronormativity, and more as we tackle Chapters 38-40 of A Discovery of Witches! If you'd like to get in touch, check out our Facebook group -- www.facebook.com/groups/CandCClovers/.  By special request, this episode also contains a blo...

Aw, man. Chapter 37 of A Discovery of Witches is SO MASSIVE that Jen and Cait had to tackle it separately. In this episode, we confront colonialism, representation, divinity, sexuality, redemption, and more. Grab a beverage, put on your thinking caps, and join us! If you'd like to know more, come join our discussion group on Facebook, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers! 

Jen and Cait talk about DNA, foreshadowing, tragedy, chaos, and the mechanics of time travel while covering Chapters 34-36 of A Discovery of Witches.

As we rescue Diana from the oubliette, we tackle the tragic foresight of Stephen and Rebecca Bishop, the wonder of the Bishop house, and more. Join us for Chapters 32-34 of A Discovery of Witches!

In Episode 12, we tackle Chapters 28-30 of A Discovery of Witches--from ecstasy to agony. You can expect to hear our take on romance and sex scenes, historical tourism, ghosts and foreshadowing, and more as we take on La Pierre, Satu, naked Matthew, and more. We can't wait to hear your feedback!