Patrick And Tony
Cave To The Cross Apologetics
Applying's God's Word To Philosophical Thought
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The Best Argument For God – Ep.214 – Apologetics By John Frame – Transcendental Argument – Part 1 27.02.2023 50:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yek96XI9EM The Best Argument For God “The Transcendental Argument (TAG) is the best argument for God!” You may have heard this claim along keywords like “preconditions of intelligibility” and “by what standard”. However, what makes TAG so powerful is something that is beneficial for not just the apologist or the philosophically m...
Accepting Evidence – Ep.213 – Apologetics By John Frame – Some Methodological Considerations – Part 2 20.02.2023 30:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaJPqRBLjE Accepting Evidence Accepting evidence for a position seems like an easy thing to do in theory. See what’s presented before you and if you properly understand everything you move from unbelief to belief. Ya, well, except it’s definitely not that simple and it’s not how people come to belief, especially about something as big a concept as...
Apologetics As Proof – Ep.212 – Apologetics By John Frame – Some Methodological Considerations – Part 1 13.02.2023 33:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yocSTMgO72E Apologetics As Proof It might sound weird to say that we offer up apologetics as proof when it comes to our faith in God. But what Frame is presenting here is that we sometimes overestimate what we are thinking proof is or isn’t. We’ve let others define what faith is for so long that even if modern shows and movies acknowledge faith it’...
Every Thought Captive – Ep.211 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Message Of The Apologist – Part 2 06.02.2023 32:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ6ZFAe4CJE Every Thought Captive We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ (2 Corn. 10:5). Those same thoughts about the nature of all reality. The nature of knowledge. The nature of right and wrong. Not only those things but even how we present that message to others should be do...
The Nature Of All Reality – Ep.210 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Message Of The Apologist – Part 1 30.01.2023 41:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJh6nzBP7PQ The Nature Of All Reality The term “metaphysics” might seem like one of those scary words that only the eggheads use (true); the term just means what is the nature of all reality. What is it that makes the things we are and experience the things they are? The Christian worldview necessitates and calls for a drastically different take than wha...
Evidence & Presuppositionalism – Ep.209 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Basics – Part 2 23.01.2023 44:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcEnnE0s22k Evidence & Presuppositionalism Evidence & presuppositionalism have absolutely nothing to do with each other! Well except that all evidence is God’s evidence and so the best use of evidence can be had when an apologist has established their foundation on something that makes sense of them and allows them to exist. The scary thing is that thi...
The Basics Of Apologetics – Ep.208 – Apologetics By John Frame – The Basics – Part 1 16.01.2023 32:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EacraBZUgRQ The Basics Of Apologetics We crack open John Frame’s Apologetics book by doing what we like doing best here – defining our terms. With that we find out what the basics of apologetics are and the right way and wrong way we can carry out the command from Scripture to always be ready to give an apologetic for the hope that you have. But what abo...
The Need To Clarify And Encourage – Ep. 207 – Apologetics By John Frame – Preface 09.01.2023 24:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASRVWWC9yF4 The Need To Clarify And Encourage Another apologetics book? But why? 2,000 years of Church History and we haven’t said everything we need to say? Well, believe it or not, another apologetics book is needed as it gives us the ability to clarify and encourage. Also, it’s kind of what the Bible tells us to do and that’s a pretty big deal....
Introducing John Frame & Apologetics – Ep. 206 – Apologetics By John Frame – Preface 02.01.2023 47:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMN0rPpne8 Introducing John Frame & Apologetics We begin our next book by introducing John Frame & apologetics. We open to the preface where Frame’s friend and ministry partner Vern Poythress gives us a mini-book in apologetics and what we’ll see in the rest of the book. If we can talk about just the preface for this long, just imagine the bang...
Patrick’s 2022 Book Reviews – Ep.205 – Read More Books – Part 2 26.12.2022 1:03:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jshp_mLsuA4 2022 Book Reviews – Part 2 The final reviews of 2022 include some IndiePub, poetry, sci-fi, and theology. Our hope for our ministry is that you pull off those books from your shelf, blow off the dust, and make use of them for God’s glory. You can start at any time and start at any length of book. Our God is a storyteller and we reflect His im...
Patrick’s 2022 Book Reviews – Ep.204 – Read More Books – Part 1 19.12.2022 55:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8MHv7kz-yk 2022 Book Reviews – Part 1 For the last two weeks of the year, we’ll be populating the show with books Patrick has read during the year. Some are homeschool supplementals, some are fiction, and – yes, some are even theology. Whether you’re set in your ways of only picking books from the New York Times from Trad Pubs or you’r...
Cave To The Cross Apologetics – Redux – Bob Murphy Interview 12.12.2022 1:12:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUkoqeEO9dU Bob Murphy Interview Redux The final two weeks of the year will be a year-end roundup of the book Patrick has read and starting the first Monday of the year we’ll be starting John Frame’s Book “Apologetics – A Justification Of Christian Belief”. Today we revisit episodes 47 & 48 with Dr. Bob Murphy @BobMurphyAncap . Th...
Cave To The Cross Apologetics – Redux – J. Warner Wallace Interview 05.12.2022 1:12:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdGIyl9bR4 J. Warner Wallace Interview Redux We needed to reschedule some things for our next book so we’re almost thinking of starting Frame’s book at the first of the year. Next couple of weeks, I’m thinking of doing a year-end review of all the books I read this year and see if there’s any interest in that. This week we’re pulling a...
9th Book Announcement 28.11.2022 4:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEZ56CUsRo0 Our 9th Book Announcement A very blurry Patrick (if you’re watching the video) announces the 9th book that’s going to be covered on the show. Links are here in the description and we hope you’ll join us as we focus (with Patrick’s camera in focus) on this next book in our book club. BOOK LINKS: Kindle Paperback Audible Try Audible...
The Internal Critique Of Other Religions – Ep.203 – Against All Opposition – Biblical Counterfeit Religions 21.11.2022 44:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxqkR41CcY Internal Critique Of Other Religions With the final chapter of Bahnsen’s book, we look at the internal critique of other religions. The same system we’ve been using with looking at worldviews for other philosophies and worldviews works just as well with religion. In fact, the codification and systematic approach other religions have probably...
Dualism & Other Religions Critiqued – Ep.202 – Against All Opposition – A Quick Course In Comparative Religions 14.11.2022 42:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jP97lGIe8 Dualism & Other Religions Critiqued Moving on from atheism to see how dualism & other religions critiqued. Applying the two-step method of providing an internal critique and then giving the biblical answer, we see the arbitrary and inconsistent nature of these worldviews. Platonism with its mind and body dualism and Aristotle with his materialism...
All Unbelievers Believe – Ep.201 – Against All Opposition – The Unbeliever Is A Believer 07.11.2022 47:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPwvPOUjOUc All Unbelievers Believe Continuing with the internal critique of both the Christian and the unbeliever, the Christian comes to see that since God is Sovereign and Creator over all things and all men are made in His Image, it is impossible to rebel so far away from that so as to be outside of God’s rule or image. As in Romans 1 we see that all unbel...
Atheist Issues – Mind & Morality – Ep.200 – Against All Opposition – A Critique Of Atheism – Part 2 31.10.2022 26:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8wCcf4HPcQ Atheist Issues – Mind & Morality The problem of induction to do science and the problem of deduction to do logic are used but are baseless in a materialistic atheistic worldview. But that’s not the only issues. Atheist issues mind & morality also arise with great issue. The mind, as opposed to the brain, just doesn’t exist. You...
Atheist Issues – Induction & Deduction – Ep.199 – Against All Opposition – A Critique Of Atheism – Part 1 24.10.2022 42:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMG4lgWVT48 Atheist Issues – Induction & Deduction One of the most common worldviews you’re likely to encounter is that of the materialistic atheist. This worldview states that reality is only made up of physical things. There is no supernatural or transcendental realm of objects. Only what’s available to our senses is what is real and thatR...
Tools To Evaluate Worldviews – Ep.198 – Against All Opposition – Challenges Of Competing Worldviews – Part 2 17.10.2022 31:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snZ4cgLFooo Tools To Evaluate Worldviews We finish the chapter by looking at some more tools to evaluate worldviews. Finishing up with atomists that want to keep free will we see hedonism and existentialism reign here. Then we take a slight detour to cover those worldviews that say you either can’t know or it doesn’t matter what all of reality is like. I...
Three Views Of Reality – Ep.197 – Against All Opposition – Challenges Of Competing Worldviews – Part 1 10.10.2022 27:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ISvBgiEr4g Three Views Of Reality If there’s one thing we tend to stress on this show it’s that definitions matter. If you can define it then you can classify it. If you can classify it then you’re better able to know where that fits in the conversation about God, His World, and those who exist in His World. As such, Greg Bahnsen has identified th...
Everyone Is A Philosopher – Ep.196 – Against All Opposition – What Is Philosophy? 03.10.2022 42:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhX8pX82jhc Everyone Is A Philosopher Everyone Is A Philosopher! It doesn’t matter your education or lack there of. It doesn’t matter if you are from the West or the East or from Mars. You can not know any Latin or you know how to get angry at the drive-through order taker in a dead language. You cannot help it. In this chapter, Bahnsen works at getting...
Borrowing From The Christian Worldview – Ep.195 – Against All Opposition – Unbelievers Are Not Neutral And Christians Shouldn’t Be – Part 2 26.09.2022 29:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7Z8KDMyU8 Borrowing From The Christian Worldview Not only should we reject the charge to be neutral when approaching any area that pertains to God, but we should also realize that since this world is God’s world and we are all made in His image that even unbelievers are found borrowing from the Christian worldview – and they might not even know it! One...
No One Is Neutral, No Not One – Ep.194 – Against All Opposition – Unbelievers Are Not Neutral And Christians Shouldn’t Be – Part 1 19.09.2022 24:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC35UZAnAcU No One Is Neutral, No Not One We’re back! Well – Tony is back! You’ve caught up on your book, right? You haven’t been letting it collect dust again, have you? We pick back up with Bahnsen’s book talking about if we should approach the subject of God (or anything) with a neutral standpoint. Both sides should lay down all thei...
Apologetics Effects Affect – Ep. 193 – Talk Given To The Michigan Apologetics Network 12.09.2022 20:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic9wA14TVwU Apologetics Effects Affect Starting next week, Tony and I should be reunited in digital form to continue going through our Greg Bahnsen’s Against All Opposition. I was kindly invited by some new friends at the Michigan Apologetics Network to give a talk on anything that I wished. I talked about how apologetics isn’t an end to itself but is a...
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