Patrick And Tony
Cave To The Cross Apologetics
Applying's God's Word To Philosophical Thought
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Jul 6, 2026
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Ep. 45 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.17 – Can God Ground Morality – Part 1 11.11.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvtjp2aBwgM We look at Dr. Stokes’ take on the divine command theory to ground morality in an objective state. This, of course, brings up the infamous Euthyphro dilemma. The argument is one that many bring up when objecting to the claim that God can coherently be the source of morality. In this episode, we cover the introduction to the dilemma and next episode...
Ep. 44 – Tulips & Honey Podcast Interview 04.11.2019 1:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9U055867og   Audio interview – https://pca.st/4yltrku4 YouTube version – https://youtu.be/e5hxjeTaGAk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hxjeTaGAk We’re going to point you over to the Tulips & Honey podcast page today. Friends of the show, Lauren & Becca interviewed Patrick & Tony. We talk about our salvation story, how we met, w...
Ep. 43 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.16 – Morality Is Personal – Part 2 28.10.2019 25:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28hGe7u5a8k We finish up this chapter with the discussion of Dr. Stokes’ critique of values when it comes to morality. If naturalism is true, there seems to be a lot of issues that result in understanding what values are and therefore what moral imperatives are. This is a lead up to his main argument of why the Christian God offers a better alternative to natu...
Ep. 42 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.16 – Morality Is Personal – Part 1 21.10.2019 39:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEUk5XJsUH0 We once again slow down to cover an important part of Dr. Mitch Stokes’ argument. We want to be clear in our presentation of his arguments. While a non-careful reader could see Stokes going down the route of making a post-modernist argument this chapter and the next really set up his entire point of the need to ground morality in God and not in th...
Ep. 41 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.15 – Can Science Determine Human Values 14.10.2019 25:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHuWlcdkLUU In Chapter 15 we go over Dr. Stoke’s critique of Sam Harris’ well-being theory for objective morality. It does appear that what Harris claims is objective is just another subjective standard. The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep41 Books mentioned in this episode: “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link –...
Ep. 40 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.14 – An All-Natural Morality – Part 2 07.10.2019 23:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8tyy85BncI In this second part of chapter 14, we continue to look at Sam Harris’ attempt to use well-being as an objective grounds for morality. We look at well-being from a standpoint of whether it’s a moral good or more of a prudential good (a good thing to do rather than being good in and of itself). The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep40 B...
Ep. 39 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.14 – An All-Natural Morality – Part 1 30.09.2019 34:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6eZ6NDBkw We take this chapter a little slower since there are some big concepts to understand. We look at Sam Harris’ attempt to define morality as being concerned with a creature’s well-being. This measurable value gives morality a scientific component and allows it to be measured and objective. Has Harris done what David Hume failed to do and give...
Ep. 38 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.13 – Moral Mammals – The Evolution Of Ethics 23.09.2019 40:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIftQEtuLf4 Ethics is the principles by which people act morally. If the world is guided by evolution, where does morality come from? How do we make sense of what seems to be a strong desire to understand right and wrong? Does science hold the key to living our best atheist life now? The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep38 Books mentioned in this episode: &#...
Ep. 37 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.12 – Some Brush Clearing 16.09.2019 34:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh-w1uqQH2s In this chapter, Mitch Stokes wants to clear up some misconceptions that both sides of moral realism seem to perpetuate. Atheists need to provide a reason why anyone should be good. Some Christians insinuate that atheists should just go around being completely amoral. Both sides sometimes take part is talking past each other because morality is such an i...
Ep. 36 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.11 – If God Is Dead, Is Everything Permissible? 09.09.2019 39:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEC8FifJENo We come to the 3rd and final section of our book. We open to the concept of morality and how the atheistic worldview deals with it. With atheism, naturalism is the concept through which one looks at the world and all facts with. Naturalism says nature is all there is – property and causes all have natural explanations. So you can see where natur...
Ep. 35 – Jason Lisle Interview – Keeping Faith In An Age Of Reason 02.09.2019 40:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbrXVFl9qL8 We welcome to the show, Dr. Jason Lisle! Dr. Lisle is responsible for Tony & Patrick kindling their book club with his book “The Ultimate Proof of Creation”. He is also the author of the first book done on this show, “Keeping Faith In An Age Of Reason”. Dr. Lisle talks about his background, his approach, and why presuppositi...
Ep. 34 – Mitch Stokes Interview – How To Be An Atheist – Part 2 26.08.2019 26:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpHnF5_PB4 We continue with our interview with Dr. Mitch Stokes who authored the book we are currently going through on the show. This part deals with the moral objections section. There are spoilers to what we will be covering if you care about that with a theology book. First, we discuss answers to the Euthyphro Dilemma, a known “issue” in the so-cal...
Ep. 33 – Mitch Stokes Interview – How To Be An Atheist – Part 1 19.08.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhGZXvep-E0 We are very pleased to welcome Dr. Mitch Stokes who authored the book we are currently going through on the show. The first part of the interview is getting the very interesting history of Dr. Stoke’s professional journey. We then discuss the first part of the book, How To Be An Atheist. We hope you enjoy this as much as we did. Thank you, Dr. Mitc...
Ep. 32 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.10 – God – The Failed Hypothesis 12.08.2019 40:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbyGg5JcmNQ We close the science section of the book with the discussion about whether or not science could even attempt to tell us whether or not God exists. But does the belief in God root itself scientifically and does it have an impact? We discuss! The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep32 Books mentioned in this episode: “How To Be An Atheist”...
Ep. 31 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.9 – Physics-Based Metaphysics 05.08.2019 36:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApqOTyAAVWQ Don’t worry – we start off explaining what metaphysics is and why it’s important. We then go in and discuss the failure of natural physicists to try and explain metaphysics using only a physics-based approach. We get partial and also discuss in what way people do come to their belief in God. Then we cap it off by asking the question, &#...
Ep. 30 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.8 – The Current Crisis 29.07.2019 38:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBbQ4MCoI0 Is this episode we attempt to explain…string theory! We also look at the strained relationship between general relativity and quantum mechanics and the trouble both are in. Oh, and that idea that scientists have this brilliant idea of making science look smart and logical – ya, seems like the best idea they have right now to find a working th...
Ep. 29 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.7 – Arguing With Success – Part 2 22.07.2019 33:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZQejvOb1wg We take a look at the two most current theories of science, general relativity and quantum mechanics. Those have to be the ones that are revealing truth to us! Those are the cutting edge of discovery to how the universe functions and what it is made up of. And those scientists tell us there is no God and no need for God. Well except for the pesky fac...
Ep. 28 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.7 – Arguing With Success – Part 1 15.07.2019 33:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjiGWowGgpI Alright, look! Science may be hard and it may not be as sterile as we think it is, but look at what science has given us! You can’t argue with success, right? Well, sure, we have technology and answers that advance theories. But – haven’t we always had that even when the theories turned out to be wrong? Can a theory work without ac...
Ep. 27 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.6 – Real Science Is Hard – Part 3 08.07.2019 27:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRwEsEbCJ0c We finish up the chapter about the difficulty of true science. We look at just how hard scientists hold onto theories and that they aren’t just isolated from background beliefs. Christians don’t have to be skeptical of science but we must realize that worldviews play an undeclared, yet important, part of science. The episode link is www.cavet...
Ep. 26 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.6 – Real Science Is Hard – Part 2 01.07.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4xpoOCuaE We continue to look at what actually doing science is and how scientists actually do science. In this episode, we see that effects beliefs of scientists have when they do science. Not only do beliefs play a factor but we see that scientists actually rely on trusting authority and are trained to be indoctrinated. Science is a little weirder than what we t...
Ep. 25 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.6 – Real Science Is Hard – Part 1 24.06.2019 42:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFa7fWCNtpQ   We start a very interesting chapter that looks at what goes into developing a conclusion using the scientific process. Developing theory and hypothesis sounds easy but what goes into it is quite complicated. Again, we see that real science is not a squeaky clean process but a difficult one. The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep25 Books m...
Ep. 24 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.5 – Photoshopped Science 17.06.2019 41:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyOzvRBARas Today’s episode is of Chapter 5 of “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). This chapter is kind of two parts. The first part is about the logical positivists coming in the early 20th century and using Hume to try and dismantle philosophy and theology. We look at their work and their beliefs...
Ep. 23 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.4 – Science & The Humean Condition 10.06.2019 37:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOf2ifA6Wkk Today’s episode is of Chapter 4 of “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). We look at the road Hume took with his skepticism as it applies to science. Hume end shows that there is no non-circular argument for the reliability of science and fails to answer the question of “why does som...
Ep. 22 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.3 – Science – Ruining Everything Since 1543 03.06.2019 32:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2aHOI7lDhk Today’s episode is of Chapter 3 of “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). Dr. Stokes looks at two prominent scientists that have attempted to create theories that try to explain away both God and philosophy. Stokes looks at Stephen Hawkings and Laurence Krauss’ theories of the unive...
Ep. 21 – How To Be An Atheist – Ch.2 – The Believing Primate 27.05.2019 35:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqDKlHcpTQk We continue with Chapter 2 of “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). Dr. Stokes , invoking David Hume, calls atheists to be better skeptics of what is presented as known truths of the world. Hume is the philosopher that many atheists/new atheists trace back to questioning the existence of God. Ho...
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