James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana

Call It Like I See It

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Call It Like I See It proves that news and social commentary does not have to be manipulative or sensationalist to be interesting, so join hosts James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana as they take a weekly look at notable news stories, opinion pieces, or products of our culture and break down what they see.

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James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Raging Over Chick-fil-A’s Inclusivity and Demanding the Exclusion of Others; Also, Is Boredom the Key to Creativity and Sanity? 06.06.2023

Seeing the firestorm surrounding Chick-fil-A over its employment of an executive for diversity, equity and inclusion, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss what appears to be a rising tide where the power of the pocketbook is used to pressure actors to be more exclusionary towards certain segments of society (01:31).  The guys also consider whether boredom, which modern technology has seemingly el...

NAACP’s Florida Travel Advisory – Targeted Power Play or General Retreat? Also, Does Ending the Pandemic Emergency Leave Long Covid Sufferers in Limbo? 30.05.2023

With the NAACP issuing a travel advisory relating to Florida in response its belief that Florida is openly hostile to Blacks and other minority groups, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the half measure nature of the travel advisory tactic and whether it can be an effective way to exert political influence (01:32).  The guys also consider how the formal ending of the Covid pandemic emergency b...

Separating the “Guns in Society” Conversation from the Ja Morant Controversy; Also, Honoring Jim Brown as a Man Instead of as an Idol 23.05.2023

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the suspension of NBA star Ja Morant following the posting of another social media video showing him brandishing a gun and take a look at the more general “guns in society” that many seem to want to have when looking at the Morant controversy (01:22).  The guys also take a look at the life of Jim Brown and consider how our society goes about remembering men wh...

America’s Perpetual Dissonance on Immigration; Also, the Nick Cannon and Elon Musk Approach to Fatherhood 16.05.2023

Following the expiration of the Title 42 pandemic emergency rules for migrants, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the current crisis at the border and discuss America’s long time reliance on and hostility toward immigration (01:27).  The guys consider the more is merrier approach to fatherhood apparently taken by people such as Nick Cannon and Elon Musk in light of current society norms...

Are the New Diversity Standards for the Oscars Oppressive to Artists? Also, Can Workism Bring Salvation? 09.05.2023

With the new diversity and inclusion standards for Oscar eligibility kicking in, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the standards and the purpose of efforts like this while also reacting to some of the hostility being directed at the standards (01:53).  The guys discuss a recent piece in The Atlantic from Derek Thompson on the concept of workism and the idea that for many, their job is where th...

Weaponization (of the Government) is as Weaponization Does; Also, Are Americans Moving Away from Close Emotional Relationships? 02.05.2023

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider what weaponizing of the government means, and also what it does not mean, and also discuss Rep. Jim Jordan’s Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government and Disney’s new lawsuit against Ron Desantis and other Florida officials (01:27).  The guys also take a look at recent studies which suggest that Americans are becoming increasingly le...

Clarence Thomas and Diane Feinstein Are Manifesting Selfishness in Different Ways; Also, Turning CO2 into Useful Materials 25.04.2023

Seeing that the America system needs its public officials to restrain their selfish impulses to work well, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss how the recently revealed conduct of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and the circumstances surrounding California Senator Diane Feinstein look more like public servants putting themselves first (01:49).  The guys also take a look at research that is...

Culture Series: “Sapiens,” a Book by Yuval Noah Harari 18.04.2023

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss Yuval Harari’s bestseller “Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind,” a book that tracks the growth and development of human societies and cultures from the Stone Age through the modern day, and presents several key revolutions as being what changed everything over time and put humans on a path to in large part master the world around them in a way that no other...

Using AI to Replace Humans is Coming, but is it Progress? Also, What to do About All the Lead Pipes the EPA Found in Drinking Water Systems 11.04.2023

With Levi’s announcing that it will begin using AI generated models on its website and app, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider whether using artificial intelligence to replace people is the kind of “progress” we can expect moving forward and discuss how the rapid growth and implementation of AI has some tech leaders calling for a 6 month pause on the training of AI systems (01:30).  The guys a...

With Rule of Law, an Indictment of a Former President was Inevitable; Also, Banning Minors from using Social Media 04.04.2023

Following the history making indictment of former President Donald Trump, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the historic nature of the indictment and compare the situation to what has been happening in Israel following the indictment of its Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (01:30).  The guys also take a look at Utah’s move to ban minors from accessing social media without parental consent (37...

Maintaining Trust in the Financial System Following SVB’s Sudden Collapse; Also, Energy Budgets to Prevent Burnout 28.03.2023

Following the sudden collapse of Silicon Valley Bank earlier this month, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the nature of what apparently went wrong and the role the government has and should play in both managing and preventing these types of situations (01:30).  The guys also consider a popular technique many having been using to prevent burnout and be happier (41:11). Why almost everyone fai...

The Iraq War and the Domino Effect it Had on the Post 9/11 Era; Also, Your Actual Age Versus How Old You Feel 21.03.2023

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at back at the Iraq War, which began 20 years ago this month with the invasion Iraq by the US and its allies and with all that has followed, consider whether it was one of the most consequential geopolitical moves in the 21st century (01:23).  The guys also discuss the disconnect many experience between their actual age and how old they think of themselves...

What it Takes to Maintain a Partisan Narrative Universe; Also, Harriet Beecher Stowe as One of the Most Influential Americans in History 14.03.2023

Seeing the revelations that have come out so far in Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation lawsuit against Fox News, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the most concerning aspects and what the state of mind of the major players reveals about the market for fake news (01:24).  The guys also take a look at Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom’s Cabin, in observance of Women’s History Month (46...

The Divide Amongst Experts on the Origins Covid-19 is Breeding Certainty; Also, Do Ultra Processed Foods Undermine Health? 07.03.2023

Following a couple of U.S. agencies coming out with at least lukewarm support of Covid-19 originating from a lab leak, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the ongoing debate/investigation/analysis into the origin of Covid-19 and the certainty many express despite how much remains unknown (01:58).  The guys also discuss the emerging debate in the nutrition field over whether processed food...

The Russo-Ukrainian War Features Battles for Land, and to Shape Perception; Also, Are HBCUs Only for Blacks? 28.02.2023

With the conflict between Russia and Ukraine passing the one year mark, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the back and forth on the battlefield and take a look at the efforts by differing parties to shape how the war is seen by their people and the people in other countries (01:29).  The guys also weigh in on the online backlash that has been seen over a Latina being crowned Miss Coppin State...

Is Jihad More Exciting than Governing? Also, Black Americans in America’s Early History 21.02.2023

Following reporting on how many Taliban members in Afghanistan have come to miss the days of jihad, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the nature of this sentiment and consider how it is not uncommon dissatisfied groups because making something work is often harder than blowing it up (01:53).  The guys also take a look at some interesting facts about the participation of Black Americans in the...

High-Altitude Balloons and the Need to Play the Espionage Game Right; Also, Fascia’s Huge Role in Our Bodies 14.02.2023

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to the still ongoing trend involving all of these high-altitude flying objects that are getting detected and shot down (01:38).  The guys also take a look at fascia, which despite being a tissue we have all over our bodies, is something that we know much less about compared to things like muscle and bone (43:21). Here is what we know about the unidentified objec...

Black History Month and Using History to as a Political Tool; Also, Is ChatGPT a Better Communicator than You? 07.02.2023

With the start of February, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss Black History Month, whether its observation as a momentary point of emphasis is helpful to society or not, and how picking fights over what history is taught, and how it is taught, can be a potent political tool (01:34).  The guys also take a look at OpenAI’s artificial intelligence chatbot system ChatGPT and consider the implicati...

The Murder of Tyre Nichols is Both Different From, and Similar To, Other Cases of Police Brutality; Also, Putting Friendship Over Facts 31.01.2023

Looking at the senseless murder of Tyree Nichols, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss whether anything can be taken from the relative speed in which the process of holding the responsible officers accountable has begun and consider what can be taken away from the fact that both the victim and the offending officers in this case were Black (02:02).  The guys also discuss an interesting article by...

Are State Run Lotteries Bad Government and Anti-American? Also, Why Pessimism on Americas Future is Misguided 24.01.2023

Historian Jonathan D. Cohen has recently been making the rounds asking some important questions about whether operating a lottery is a proper thing for governments to do, and James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at Cohen’s rationale for questioning lotteries and discuss why so many in the land of free enterprise have seemingly accepted the idea of having the state-run lotteries as an alternat...

Keeping Up with the Konfidentials; Also, Why the Labor Market Seems Bulletproof 17.01.2023

With presidents being caught with confidential documents that they should no longer have now apparently being a trend, James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana compare how President Biden and former President Trump responded to their respective document controversy, consider what is triggering the media in these controversies, and discuss how this is what rule of law looks like (01:20).  The guys also react...

Running the Same Play from Anti-Democracy Playbook in Brazil; Also, Extending Education Beyond the “Three Rs” 10.01.2023

Seeing the attack on the presidential palace, Supreme Court, and Congress in Brazil by supporters of their former President Bolsenaro James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss how this attack mirrored the 2021 insurrection in the U.S. and consider whether seeing this happen twice now signals a trend (01:41).  The guys also weigh in on the addition of financial and information literacy courses being ma...

Streaming Between the Lines - “The Eugenics Crusade” 03.01.2023

Michelle Ferrari’s “The Eugenics Crusade,” which originally aired in 2018 on PBS, tells the story of the rise and fall of eugenics in American scientific, social and political spheres, and.  James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss what stood out most in the film and how many themes in the story echo what we still see today. The Eugenics Crusade (PBS) The Eugenics Crusade (Amazon Prime) The Eugenics...

Is the US to Blame for the Education Ban on Women in Afghanistan? Also, the Illusion of Time and the Merits of a Dry January 27.12.2022

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to the Taliban’s recent move to ban college education for women in Afghanistan and consider whether the US bears any responsibility for this development (01:35).  The guys also weigh in on the ongoing debate over whether time from a scientific standpoint is an illusion (22:07) and discuss the merits of a Dry January (34:00). 'The Taliban took our last hope': Col...

Is Behaving Respectably Overrated in the 21st Century? Also, the Fusion Power Breakthrough and the Possibility of Endless Energy 20.12.2022

James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana weigh in on the idea that the tech revolution has resulted in leaders in business or public life means no longer feeling the need to behave in a respectable manner (01:26).  The guys also react to the recently announced fusion power breakthrough and consider whether the achievement is being over hyped (42:07). The Rise and Fall of Respectability (Wall Street Journal)...

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